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181. Bob Wilber became Sidney Bechet’s student and protégé when he was nineteen and, for a few years in the 1940’s, came as close to being a carbon copy of the jazz virtuoso in performance as anyone has ever come.
(A) as anyone has ever come
(B) as anyone ever had been
(C) as anyone ever had done
(D) that anyone ever did
(E) that anyone ever came
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Re: 1000 SC [#permalink] New post 05 Nov 2009, 10:07
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requires present tense
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Re: 1000 SC [#permalink] New post 14 Mar 2010, 00:36
I could narrow down to A&B

But can any one please tell Y we require present tense
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Re: 1000 SC [#permalink] New post 14 Mar 2010, 08:16
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There are 2 distinguishing points between A and B.

1. Use of present perfect in A and past perfect in B
By using past perfect in B the original meaning is slightly distorted. (removing the possibility of anyone now coming as close to virtuoso performance) In such cases we should try to remain as close to original meaning as possible which is A)

2. The construction of A is better than of B. Please see the difference below:
Bob Wilber ... came as close to X as anyone has ever come. (better)
Bob Wilber ... came as close to X as anyone ever has come. (awkward)

Second one is the format of B with additional diff. of past perfect (already discussed)



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Re: 1000 SC [#permalink] New post 17 Dec 2010, 17:59
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The passage's setting is this.

Bob Wilber, for a few years in the 1940’s, came (Past tense) as close to being a carbon copy of the jazz virtuoso in performance as anyone has ever come.(present perfect)

By limiting the comparison to the few years in the 1940’s, the author does not want to extend it to even the 1950’s or the 60’s,and so from contemporary point of view, the comparison is a thing of past that ended unmistakably in the 40's . To use a present perfect for describing this past phenomenon is inappropriate. It entails either a past tense or past perfect.

Past is also irrelevant because the comparison could be with some one before the 1940’s and extending up to the end of the 40’s; Since this covers a period earlier than 1940’s also, use of past perfect only will be appropriate.

Both B and C use past perfect but B uses the passive verb ‘been’ while C uses the active voice ‘done’. Here “had done” is an alternative to avoid the repetition of ‘had come’.

IMO, C is the best choice.
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Re: 1000 SC [#permalink] New post 17 Dec 2010, 18:33
This is why I don't like 1000 SC: they have grammar mistake in non-underlined portion...

Bob Wilber became Sidney Bechet’s student and protégé when he was nineteen and, for a few years in the 1940’s, came as close to being a carbon copy of the jazz virtuoso in performance as anyone has ever come.


"He" can't be put in like that, it needs to say:... when Bob... Because HE can refer to either Bob or Sidney. Shame on them :shock:
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Re: 1000 SC [#permalink] New post 17 Dec 2010, 19:40
Check again the source of the question because I did not find this question in my 1000-SC series.
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Re: 1000 SC [#permalink] New post 17 Dec 2010, 19:58
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@Pkit: The source is indeed 1000 SC and Question No is 181.The gmatclub's link contains the question.
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Re: 1000 SC [#permalink] New post 07 Jan 2011, 09:15
between A and B I choose A..It seem good to me
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Re: 1000 SC [#permalink] New post 21 Mar 2011, 07:51
A...the statement says no one has ever come as close until today...
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Re: 1000 SC [#permalink] New post 14 May 2011, 14:30
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There are 2 distinguishing points between A and B.

1. Use of present perfect in A and past perfect in B
By using past perfect in B the original meaning is slightly distorted. (removing the possibility of anyone now coming as close to virtuoso performance) In such cases we should try to remain as close to original meaning as possible which is A)

2. The construction of A is better than of B. Please see the difference below:
Bob Wilber ... came as close to X as anyone has ever come. (better)
Bob Wilber ... came as close to X as anyone ever has come. (awkward)

Second one is the format of B with additional diff. of past perfect (already discussed)
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the sentence should read come as close....as anyone has ever come

Killer bullet on the forehead of this question on this link.
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The best answer is A.
B and C are both wrong because "ever" is misplaced. Adverbs of frequency ("always," "never," "often," "seldom," "ever," etc.) must be placed between the auxiliary verb and the past participle. Should be: "as anyone had ever done."

There is nothing wrong with using the present perfect "has come" in A. It means that Wilber came as close to being a carbon copy of the jazz virtuoso as anyone had come before or has come since.

Consider the following examples:
"In 1960 Johnson scored as many goals as anyone had ever scored in one year."
"In 1960 Johnson scored as many goals as anyone has ever scored in one year."

In the first example, Johnson's number of goals in 1960 is compared only with previous years. In the second example his number of goals in 1960 is compared with all years before and since.
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