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Finance is very broad. Tell us more about that. Have you worked at a bulge bracket bank? Do you have large cap PE or big investment management firm experience?

If you worked at a lower-tier bank and you are looking to upgrade, then maybe Booth could be useful.

If you already have a pedigreed background (top undergrad, top bank/firm) -- then I would just take Haas. You should be able to network your way into great jobs in the Bay Area based on your pre-MBA background.

Lastly, what is your geographic preference post-MBA? If it's the West Coast - go to Haas. If you want to be in NYC, go with Booth.
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Thanks for the feedback!

I currently work for a PE fund of funds, which is a bit different (we analyze PE funds, not investing in companies or structuring deals). I am also working towards completing my CFA in June. I would love to get into real PE and possibly work abroad in Asia. However, given the difficulty of breaking into the PE industry, I have an eye towards other areas in finance such as IB/IM/Asset Management (which is probably still difficult in this environment)

I don't think I have super relevant experience to work in PE / IB / IM, but have some exposure and will hopefully have a CFA soon. Seems like Booth would be helpful in making a transition given its strength in finance, but maybe I can do this at Haas anyway?

(As for location, I really like both locations. Currently live in Chicago but also like the Bay Area!)

Now this becomes a difficult decision. Moving from a fund-of-funds to the direct investing PE side without investment banking/deal experience or general management experience is very difficult. The skill set does not transfer very well. Not to mention the huge shortage of PE jobs currently and the massive amount of unemployed, overqualified bankers who would jump at the opportunity.

If you want to go into investment management (likely the easiest route to go, considering you're working towards the CFA and have FoF experience) -- I would have to say you should go to Chicago. Chicago places better in NYC, and I think there will be more jobs in NYC than SF during the downturn.

If you want to go into investment banking - it probably won't matter much either way, but I'd give a slight edge to Chicago.

If you are dead set on direct investing PE -- you should probably focus on small/lower middle market firms. These are plentiful in both Chicago and Haas, and it will come down to your ability to network. At your FoF, I'm sure you have gained a lot of exposure to various PE funds across the country. Do you have solid relationships with ones in SF? If so, go to Haas. Are you contacts better in Chicago? Go to Chicago.

That was probably long-winded. Best of luck. I would speak to alums and current students at both schools, as well as finance professionals in the fields you are interested in to get a clearer picture.
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Your background relates very well for what you want to do...and chances are you will be the star for those jobs at Haas but not at Booth. Plus fullride man...no debate unless Booth decides to give you 50%+ even then unless its 75% haas still wins for me.
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Re: Booth vs Haas ($$) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 24 Mar 2009, 20:26 1 This post received KUDOS Haas. The chances of getting all the cards you want at one table compared to the other isn't worth the 100k. If it will happen, it will happen. _________________ Manager Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 145 Schools: Chicago Booth 2011 Followers: 3 Kudos [?]: 29 [0], given: 6 Re: Booth vs Haas ($$$) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 24 Mar 2009, 20:39 A full ride,$100K or thereabouts, is an awful lot of money to turn down, even more so in the current client.

The only X-factor I can see is your desire to work in Asia. I don't know how important that is to you. If you plan to work in Asia by being posted as an expatriate (i.e. work in a US firm then work your way up to a high level position in one of their Asian branches,) then I think you should still pick Haas.

However, if you plan to strike it out on Asia on your own, the Chicago name brand should be significantly more helpful. There are two big reasons for this. First, in many parts of Asia, "face" is very important, so reputation is extremely critical. While H/S/W are still the undisputed trinity, the remaining four M7 schools are also very well regarded even if they may not be so well known by the laymen. Second, the Chicago network in Asia should be much stronger compared to Haas. For example, Singapore has a ton of Chicago grads, and Korea's banking industry is also loaded with Chicago grads[0]. It should be significantly easier to find a position in Asia through your network if you went to Chicago.

In the end though, nothing will beat quality work experience at a top notch company.

[0] Wharton has the largest alumni base in Korea, Chicago is second but not by much.
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I think it depends on what kind of firm you want to work for directly post-MBA. There is a not insignificant difference b/w these schools for top finance job recruiting. If you want to go into IB, then Haas is probably fine, though you might have an easier time at Booth. If you want IM (including Hedge Funds) Booth would be my decision. Several elite firms only come to Chicago and a few other select schools for IM recruiting (this includes firms on the West coast and in the bay area.) If you want VC then I would go to Haas. If you want PE I would probably go to Booth, but I think network is going to be more important here than which school.

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Re: Booth vs Haas ($$) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 25 Mar 2009, 08:09 cougarblue wrote: I think it depends on what kind of firm you want to work for directly post-MBA. There is a not insignificant difference b/w these schools for top finance job recruiting. If you want to go into IB, then Haas is probably fine, though you might have an easier time at Booth. If you want IM (including Hedge Funds) Booth would be my decision. Several elite firms only come to Chicago and a few other select schools for IM recruiting (this includes firms on the West coast and in the bay area.) If you want VC then I would go to Haas. If you want PE I would probably go to Booth, but I think network is going to be more important here than which school. Disclosure: Booth admit, pre-MBA PE, post-MBA IM/HF in CA (hopefully) Agreed. Thank you. When you're in Finance, money should not be a deciding factor on where you go to school. I tried to look at this comparison by taking money out of the picture -- which is really how you should look at it. Finance people are lot more brand-oriented than other fields. Taking 100k over a better brand would be a very short sighted decision if you plan to spend your whole career in Finance. Intern Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 6 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 1 [0], given: 0 Re: Booth vs Haas ($$$) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 25 Mar 2009, 14:14 lsuguy7 wrote: lars23 wrote: Don't be short-sighted. Take the Booth offer. Brand name and network goes much farther in life than$100K. Besides, if you work in a decent job, you'll make it up in a few years or less. Do you really want to look back on life and say, 'maybe I should have went to Booth'?

I hope one of the admin moves this to the BW forum. I wonder if I'll be saying I should have went to Booth? I think Chicago is an amazing school but I'm not sold on a school making you a success because of brand name and network. I work for a company that hires both Chicago and Haas grads into it's rotationary programs and they make exactly the same amount of money, move through the ranks at the same speed, so at that rate you'd never make up that 100k.

I work in investment banking and we bring in more Booth students than Haas. Sure, when you get in, you will make the same as your peers. But what if we chose a Booth student over a Haas? Well, that Booth student will make up the $100K deficit in 2 years (would have been +$100K surplus in 1.5 years of work before the market crash).
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