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Good Question Discussed thanku
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New post 06 May 2010, 08:28
I chose option B but OA says otherwise :(
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New post 06 May 2010, 11:55
I understand the explanations around the need for "if" after subjunctive mood, it does make sense. But I really don't get what the "only" is doing in the sentence. To me that sound very awkward... so I guess I didn't understand the meaning of the whole sentence.

anyone can clarify this?
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"If only because" is a special phrase. It is sometimes expressed more fully as "if for no other reason than (that)"
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New post 06 May 2010, 22:15
had no idea about that expression! thanks klughing
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New post 07 May 2010, 20:24
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The way I approached this is that you have a conditional uncertainity in 1st clause "would" which depends of sth that "should happen". When ever you have uncertain words (may, might, should, would, can , could), always make sure that the answer choice you are choosing is not distorting the meaning by make sth 'hypothetical' to 'actual'.

After this we are left with C, D and E. C and D is again not a clear contruction.

Again: 'IF' and 'would' SHOULD not come in same clause (if they are scratch that answer choice). But it is OK to have 'em in different clause. Also if you take a close look, this is a typical IF...then condition scentence. Using IF is ok here.

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No one spoke about the duplicated facilities / duplication of facilities.

Latter is correct. Between D and E.

E it is.
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I've never heard of "If only because" before this...thanks
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Excellent explanation Rao .. Correct Answer E .
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New post 10 May 2011, 08:32
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i thought B but the ans is E


Its E. A case of Subjunctives... 'Should +be' usage is the perfect
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New post 10 May 2011, 22:58
In E 'only because' is a bit of strange usage.

duplication of facilities should be avoided is better usage than the other way round.
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I thought it was B. E seems like a strange answer.

Lesson learnt: would <....> if <....>
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I am still sticking to B ..E is not sinking in ..:(

Can someone say why B is wrong

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I am still sticking to B ..E is not sinking in ..:(

Can someone say why B is wrong

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Hi Jammy ;
There are 2 things.
1. Usse of subjunctive .. If.....would + 'be' form of verb.
2. On the basis/grounds of X means an acknowledgement that X has happened. But in the present case X hasnt happened.so Eliminate B.
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I am still sticking to B ..E is not sinking in ..:(

Can someone say why B is wrong

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184. Building large new hospitals in the bistate area would constitute a wasteful use of resources, on the basis of avoidance of duplicated facilities alone.
(A) on the basis of avoidance of duplicated facilities alone
(B) on the grounds of avoiding duplicated facilities alone
(C) solely in that duplicated facilities should be avoided
(D) while the duplication of facilities should be avoided
(E) if only because the duplication of facilities should be avoided


There are quite some reasons why E is correct:
Reason#1 : Presence of comma which calls for a clause to explain the cause of non underlined sentence. We dont need that comma if we are using phrases "on the basis of ..." or "on the grounds of ...". This is a good enough reason to kick A and B out.

Reason#2 : It is typical cause-effect scenario where battle between "in that" and "because" happens. Spideys notes does say that "in that" (as in C) is mostly correct, but it is not so. This is a typical example of that. If any time, a "why" needs to be addressed, we have to use a "because" and that is what E does. So C is gone.

Reason#3 : Idiom to be crammed "if only because" :( Even I learnt it hard way.
"If only" is an addendum to "because" which specifies that there is no other reason apart from this reason.
http://www.englishforums.com/English/If ... d/post.htm

Jack ate the last cookie if only because he wanted to wash the plate.
Jack ate the last cookie because he wanted to wash the plate.

The difference is that the second sentence leaves out the idea that the only reason for eating the cookie was to wash the plate. It also leaves out that certain stylistic 'something' that the first has. The reason in the first sentence has a certain subtractive value, whereas the reason in the second has additive value. In the first sentence, but only because might replace if only because. In the second sentence, one can easily imagine extending the thought with further reasons: because ... and because ... and because ...

Once you know Reason#3, it is flat E.

But even if you know only Reason#1 and 2, you should be able to get rid of A,B, and C. Usage of while is really bad in D to kick it out.

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I am really not sure how this is a subjunctive, because I am not able to figure out "unreal" condition here which has to be there in an interrogative(if-kind of) subjunctive.
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I am still sticking to B ..E is not sinking in ..:(

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Hi Jammy ;
There are 2 things.
1. Usse of subjunctive .. If.....would + 'be' form of verb.
2. On the basis/grounds of X means an acknowledgement that X has happened. But in the present case X hasnt happened.so Eliminate B.


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Can you elaborate on how the 2 things you specified with some examples?
1. I do not find any reason to accept E on the grounds of subjunctive usage because first, it does not have any unreal condition and second, a would/should can not creep in an if clause of a subjunctive as per my understanding.
2. I think author of this sentence has clearly specified that "avoiding duplicated facilities" is happening. And that is the reason why it will be wasteful to do all the hospital building.
Let us take this scenario. "She may be acquitted on the grounds of her unmature pregnant status" In this scenario, I can also say that a future decision will depend on some future state.
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I agree that IF and WOULD should not be in the same clause. BUT we cannot consider the If-clause hypothetical subjunctive mood either, because SHOULD must not be present anywhere in the If sentence. I thought If..hypothetical subjunctive, then conditional. Please clarify. I am still confused between B and E
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New post 07 Jul 2011, 10:38
key points here:
1.Subjunctive mood: Were/Would...IF
2.'If' and 'Would' should not be in the same clause
3. 'if only because' is a special phrase
4. 'Duplicated facilities' -INCORRECT
'Duplication of facilities'- CORRECT
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Building large new hospitals in the bistate area would constitute a wasteful use of resources, on the basis of avoidance of duplicated facilities alone.

(A) on the basis of avoidance of duplicated facilities alone
(B) on the grounds of avoiding duplicated facilities alone
(C) solely in that duplicated facilities should be avoided
(D) while the duplication of facilities should be avoided
(E) if only because the duplication of facilities should be avoided


Answer: E

This is what I think it is...

A, B and C - 'on the grounds of', 'on the basis of' and 'solely in that':
In most cases, for these choices to be correct, you need a person or a body (govt agency or organization) to be present (or implied to be present) in the statement.

Sentence structure:
What comes before 'On the grounds of' and 'On the basis of' ...should involve an action or a decision (usually, between two choices i.e. polarity should be present e.g. to do or not to do, to agree with or not to agree with, to terminate or to continue...etc)
What comes after 'On the grounds of' and 'On the basis of' ...should be the reasoning/logic, which substantiates the choice of action or stand that a person or body has decided to go with
E.g. He terminated his contract with AT&T on the grounds of frustration.
E.g. Thaddeus is suing Bartholomew on the basis of U.S. patents or U.S. laws.

C is almost a variation of A and B - 'solely in that' is akin to 'the reason being'.

In the question:
1. No specific person/body
2. No obvious polarity and choice made between two options before 'on the grounds of/on the basis of'

Soooooooo...answer is most probably not A, B or C.

For 'D', 'while' is usually used when two things happen simultaneously.
E.g. While Sally plays, Sue works.
E.g. While I work hard, I make sure to play hard as well.
This is not the case for the above question statement. Hence, incorrect!

If you look at the question wholistically, is building hospitals a wasteful use of resource in reality? NO! So, that means this is a conditional situation. Therefore, answer should be E even though it sounds a little awkward.

Hope this helps! :lol:
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Guys,

Sorry this question, but this kind of discussions are new for me.

Do you known the final answer or you are just speculating?

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