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By the mid-seventeenth century, Amsterdam had built a new [#permalink] New post 15 Mar 2010, 00:26
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By the mid-seventeenth century, Amsterdam had built a new town hall so large that only St. Peter’s in Rome, the Escorial in Spain, and the Palazza Ducale in Venice could rival it for scale or magnificence.
(A) could rival it for
(B) were the rivals of it in their
(C) were its rival as to
(D) could be its rivals in their
(E) were rivaling its


Please Explain Y Could is required !
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Re: SC 182 Amsterdam St. Peter’s in Rome [#permalink] New post 15 Mar 2010, 20:10
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By the mid-seventeenth century, Amsterdam had built a new town hall so large that only St. Peter’s in Rome, the Escorial in Spain, and the Palazza Ducale in Venice could rival it for scale or magnificence.
(A) could rival it for
(B) were the rivals of it in their
(C) were its rival as to
(D) could be its rivals in their
(E) were rivaling its


Please Explain Y Could is required !


IMO A.

Could sounds better -- not sure of the official explanation!
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Re: SC 182 Amsterdam St. Peter’s in Rome [#permalink] New post 23 May 2010, 07:57
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By the mid-seventeenth century, Amsterdam had built a new town hall so large that only St. Peter’s in Rome, the Escorial in Spain, and the Palazza Ducale in Venice could rival it for scale or magnificence.
(A) could rival it for
(B) were the rivals of it in their
(C) were its rival as to
(D) could be its rivals in their
(E) were rivaling its


Please Explain Y Could is required !


rival is a verb here. So A is absolutely fine.
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Re: SC 182 Amsterdam St. Peter’s in Rome [#permalink] New post 23 May 2010, 12:21
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Hey All,

Seems like people are clear on the answer here, and for what it's worth, it's pretty much an idiom issue.

By the mid-seventeenth century, Amsterdam had built a new town hall so large that only St. Peter’s in Rome, the Escorial in Spain, and the Palazza Ducale in Venice could rival it for scale or magnificence.
(A) could rival it for
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(B) were the rivals of it in their
PROBLEM: The idiom is "X rivals Y". It's wordy and unclear to say "X is the rival of Y", because typically that would signify some kind of animosity or active competition. The idiom "X rivals Y" just means that X was as impressive as Y (or awful, or wonderful...whatever adjective you prefer). Also, using the possessive pronoun is weird, because it isn't really THEIR scale and magnificence, but the general concepts of scale and magnificence.

(C) were its rival as to
PROBLEM: Same B, but without the pronoun issue.

(D) could be its rivals in their
PROBLEM: Same as B. "Could be its rivals" is no better than "were the rivals".

(E) were rivaling its
PROBLEM: Same As B, though the possessive pronoun is singular now instead of plural.

Hope that helps!

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Re: SC 182 Amsterdam St. Peter’s in Rome [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2010, 13:50
As per one of the posts in the manhattan forum:

about Rival sb in/for some acpect:
i have search in Longman, there are some sentence can support Rival sb in XX, which is also listed as a idiom.
1#The weathermen said the storm had rivalled summer hurricanes in its intensity.
2#The prince built a vast palace, rivalling Versailles in size and opulence.

Unfortunately, i can't find material that can support Rival sb for XX, except when Rival is used as Noun.
Stephen is Ron's rival for the job---Stenpen and Ron both need job, so we use 'for'.

i don't know what's wrong with D, which is really like 1# above. although i try several dictionnary, i can't find the usage of "rival [Vt] for". SO:
1# is A really better than--or just shorter than-- D?
2# are there some dictionaries that deserve recommendation for listing lots of idiom tested by GMAT?


Please can the gurus advise on this...
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Re: SC 182 Amsterdam St. Peter’s in Rome [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2010, 13:58
If you want to pick D then after their you need to use plural forms.


kumargverma wrote:
As per one of the posts in the manhattan forum:

about Rival sb in/for some acpect:
i have search in Longman, there are some sentence can support Rival sb in XX, which is also listed as a idiom.
1#The weathermen said the storm had rivalled summer hurricanes in its intensity.
2#The prince built a vast palace, rivalling Versailles in size and opulence.

Unfortunately, i can't find material that can support Rival sb for XX, except when Rival is used as Noun.
Stephen is Ron's rival for the job---Stenpen and Ron both need job, so we use 'for'.

i don't know what's wrong with D, which is really like 1# above. although i try several dictionnary, i can't find the usage of "rival [Vt] for". SO:
1# is A really better than--or just shorter than-- D?
2# are there some dictionaries that deserve recommendation for listing lots of idiom tested by GMAT?


Please can the gurus advise on this...

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Re: SC 182 Amsterdam St. Peter’s in Rome [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2010, 16:02
babyif19 wrote:
If you want to pick D then after their you need to use plural forms.


kumargverma wrote:
As per one of the posts in the manhattan forum:

about Rival sb in/for some acpect:
i have search in Longman, there are some sentence can support Rival sb in XX, which is also listed as a idiom.
1#The weathermen said the storm had rivalled summer hurricanes in its intensity.
2#The prince built a vast palace, rivalling Versailles in size and opulence.

Unfortunately, i can't find material that can support Rival sb for XX, except when Rival is used as Noun.
Stephen is Ron's rival for the job---Stenpen and Ron both need job, so we use 'for'.

i don't know what's wrong with D, which is really like 1# above. although i try several dictionnary, i can't find the usage of "rival [Vt] for". SO:
1# is A really better than--or just shorter than-- D?
2# are there some dictionaries that deserve recommendation for listing lots of idiom tested by GMAT?


Please can the gurus advise on this...


D is wrong because of the usage of THEIR. I think D would be fine is its like

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Re: SC 182 Amsterdam St. Peter’s in Rome [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2010, 02:04
would go with A...Sounds correct and better than the other choices!
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