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Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the four thousand Acadians who migrated there in 1755; their language is basically seventeenth-century French to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words.
(A) to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words
(B) added to which is English, Spanish, and Italian words
(C) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words were added
(D) and, in addition, English, Spanish, and Italian words are added
(E) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words have been added

One choice is slightly tweaked to make life difficult. Please explain your choice.
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2008, 11:25
confused between 'C' and 'E' .... would prefer 'E'
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2008, 11:51
I chose C over E.

E has a a continuous tense and we are describing a one time action here. I do not see a need for have been, If C was not there, E would have been a better answer.

Why did you think C was wrong?
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2008, 12:40
I want to know which one is better: (C) or (E)? If so, why?
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2008, 12:44
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I want to know which one is better: (C) or (E)? If so, why?


I already mentioned why C is better. I am not sure where you got this Q from but a google search for the first part of the sentence got me this hit

http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentenc ... speak.html

Apparently the answer choices have been washed and rinsed.
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2008, 13:09
I already mentioned that I tweaked one answer choice :wink: .

The OG explanation for why choice (B) is wrong: Verb must be plural; since the action began in the past, the present perfect form 'have been added' is required.


My concern was: why only present perfect form? That's why I wanted to check if there is anything wrong with the simple past form. Hence the tweaking...
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2008, 13:49
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I already mentioned that I tweaked one answer choice :wink: .

The OG explanation for why choice (B) is wrong: Verb must be plural; since the action began in the past, the present perfect form 'have been added' is required.


My concern was: why only present perfect form? That's why I wanted to check if there is anything wrong with the simple past form. Hence the tweaking...


Sorry. I missed your point in your first post.

I absolutely would pick simple past if there is one in the answer. The first part of the sentence (before ;) is clearly NOT in continuous tense. A continuous tense will mean that words are still being added to the language. I don't think thats the intent when you have an answer choice in past tense.

I guess the OG explanation is based on the answer choices that are there. If C were as what it is in the original Q, E is the best answer.
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2008, 23:12
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Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the four thousand Acadians who migrated there in 1755; their language is basically seventeenth-century French to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words.
(A) to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words
(B) added to which is English, Spanish, and Italian words
(C) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words were added
(D) and, in addition, English, Spanish, and Italian words are added
(E) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words have been added

One choice is slightly tweaked to make life difficult. Please explain your choice.


IMO C).

E) uses present perfect which means action is still happening. However this dialect was "brought" in 1755.
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2008, 01:52
I would prefer present perfect tense here simply because the words from different languages cannot be added to a dialect at one point in time.

Moreover, past perfect tense is not applicable here.
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2008, 03:06
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I would prefer present perfect tense here simply because the words from different languages cannot be added to a dialect at one point in time.

Moreover, past perfect tense is not applicable here.


Present perfect reflects action which is still happening. Words might not have been added at one point of time but since they are not getting added at this point which is signified by "brought" you have to use past tense.
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2008, 03:07
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I would prefer present perfect tense here simply because the words from different languages cannot be added to a dialect at one point in time.

Moreover, past perfect tense is not applicable here.

C for me. Words added in past does not mean they were added at one point in time
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Re: Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the [#permalink] New post 11 Dec 2011, 11:02
For me 'E' is the right choice, it removes all the problems.

(A)to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words ... 'has' is wrong , it should be have. Also this construction is Passive.
(B) added to which is English, Spanish, and Italian words ... 'is' --- is wrong.. it should be are as it refers to 'words'
(C) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words were added
(D) and, in addition, English, Spanish, and Italian words are added --- awkward...
(E) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words have been added ... this language still exists , there have been added is the right verb...
'E' is the right choice.
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Re: Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the [#permalink] New post 12 Dec 2011, 02:00
+1 for C, continuous tense does not make any sense here, although language is never completed, it is always continuously progressing.
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Re: Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the [#permalink] New post 12 Dec 2011, 21:08
This sentence has little change in comparison with the official source. I found it in OG10.

Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the four thousand Acadians who migrated there in
1755; their language is basically seventeenth-century French to which has been added English. Spanish.
and Italian words.

(A) to which has been added English, Spanish, and Italian words
(B) added to which is English, Spanish, and Italian words
(C) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words have been added
(D) with English, Spanish, and Italian words having been added to it
(E) and, in addition, English, Spanish, and Italian words are added

OA is C (which is E in the thread maker's sentence)
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Re: Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the [#permalink] New post 13 Dec 2011, 10:16
E is correct because..."have been added" means it's continuous event and those words could not be added in one day or one year, transformation took years and is continuing even today...
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Re: Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the [#permalink] New post 18 Dec 2011, 22:51
the sentence doesn't demand a present perfect tense because we are not showing the continuity of the activity of adding(that the addition of words is still on)...so i prefer C over E...however in the absence of C(d answer choice with the modification) i will choose present perfect tense....i.e have been....simply because this option is the best out of the rest...
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Re: SC: Cajuns speak a dialect [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2013, 08:02
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Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the four thousand Acadians who migrated there in 1755; their language is basically seventeenth-century French to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words.
(A) to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words
(B) added to which is English, Spanish, and Italian words
(C) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words were added
(D) and, in addition, English, Spanish, and Italian words are added
(E) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words have been added

One choice is slightly tweaked to make life difficult. Please explain your choice.


IMO C).

E) uses present perfect which means action is still happening. However this dialect was "brought" in 1755.


Yes they were "brought" but does that also mean that the language is not spoken anymore or dosent have any effect??

Narrowed down to C and E.

Edit-- This is not a correct answer in Offcial guide 12 Question-129 the answer is E..... "have been added" usage is correct.
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Re: Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2013, 05:49
The answer is incorrect. Its QG 12 Ques 129.

The QA is E.

Please correct the QA so that others aren't missed guided.
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Re: Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2013, 10:31
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The answer is incorrect. Its QG 12 Ques 129.

The QA is E.

Please correct the QA so that others aren't missed guided.


Yes, I'd like to confirm OA is E for this question.

Other version of this question is:

Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the four thousand Acadians who migrated there in 1755; their language is basically seventeenth-century French to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words.

(A) to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words
(B) added to which is English, Spanish, and Italian words
(C) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words have been added ==> CORRECT.
(D) with English, Spanish, and Italian words having been added to it
(E) and, in addition, English, Spanish, and Italian words are added

OA is C.

But in the question we're discussing, the order of the OA is switched.

Hope it's clear now.
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Re: Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2013, 11:05
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Dhairya275 wrote:
The answer is incorrect. Its QG 12 Ques 129.

The QA is E.

Please correct the QA so that others aren't missed guided.


Yes, I'd like to confirm OA is E for this question.

Other version of this question is:

Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the four thousand Acadians who migrated there in 1755; their language is basically seventeenth-century French to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words.

(A) to which has been added English, Spanish and Italian words
(B) added to which is English, Spanish, and Italian words
(C) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words have been added ==> CORRECT.
(D) with English, Spanish, and Italian words having been added to it
(E) and, in addition, English, Spanish, and Italian words are added

OA is C.

But in the question we're discussing, the order of the OA is switched.

Hope it's clear now.


For the question posted, i would go for C. I can't understand why present perfect is used. However, i see in the OG, we do not have same options as they are in the original post ( already mentioned by the author), and hence want to know, if we use "were" instead of "are", would you still prefer option E.
It would be great if you can explain.
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