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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 04:15
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 04:40
I visited Columbia.

I went the week after all the students got back from Spring Break and to a 2nd year class where everyone already had jobs so my host was very distracted catching up with friends. Also, during class the students, which is probably typical for 2nd years, were not really paying attention to the prof. Most were emailing, text messaging or reading the case study. So the while the professor interested me, my students weren't very engaging in my opinion. I was impressed to hear where all the students traveled during spring break, however, and a lot of the trips were subsidized by CBS. They went to places like Korea, China and Dubai for "study programs" and travel to the Virgin Island, Mexico and Brazil for vacation. Very international group and feel to say the least.

After that class, I got switched to watch a 1st year class but my host and I decided that chilling at a bar watching the first round of March Madness was more important. It actually was better since he called his friends and we had started the thursday cocktail night pretty early and they shared some good experiences too. All the students seemed pretty cool and accomplished.

The facilities are not really that nice. NYC space is very limited so class seating and aisles are very small. But I don't really care about that kind of stuff anyway. Campus is nice, you don't even remember you are in New York.
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 05:25
Nice description. Thanks!

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I visited Columbia.

I went the week after all the students got back from Spring Break and to a 2nd year class where everyone already had jobs so my host was very distracted catching up with friends. Also, during class the students, which is probably typical for 2nd years, were not really paying attention to the prof. Most were emailing, text messaging or reading the case study. So the while the professor interested me, my students weren't very engaging in my opinion. I was impressed to hear where all the students traveled during spring break, however, and a lot of the trips were subsidized by CBS. They went to places like Korea, China and Dubai for "study programs" and travel to the Virgin Island, Mexico and Brazil for vacation. Very international group and feel to say the least.

After that class, I got switched to watch a 1st year class but my host and I decided that chilling at a bar watching the first round of March Madness was more important. It actually was better since he called his friends and we had started the thursday cocktail night pretty early and they shared some good experiences too. All the students seemed pretty cool and accomplished.

The facilities are not really that nice. NYC space is very limited so class seating and aisles are very small. But I don't really care about that kind of stuff anyway. Campus is nice, you don't even remember you are in New York.
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 06:56
I visited Columbia in April. I really loved it. I attended the global economy. I think the professor did a really good job at engage the students in the class, and the students also participated. I like how the class is integrated with the theory and analysis of current events instead of just theory (drawing curves). At the end, there was a debate on whether Chinese economy is overheating. I thought that was very entertaining and I can see how engaged the students are on the topic.

I had lunch and chat with the Investment banking group VP(asia), since that is my short-term career goal. It was quite fruitful. He worked in IB before he attended Columbia, so he already have his own experience with the industry. The fact the he worked both in the US and in China give me have a better understanding of the career that I'm pursuing. I also walked around and talked to random people on campus, they were all very friendly. But, the important thing is that they all look happy. :P

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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 07:40
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I don't think that I've officially announced it in this thread, but count this boy in for an ED reapp! :punk

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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 07:40
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Anyone is frustrated with the theory and practice essay?


Wait, so it's confirmed that the J-term essays are going to part of the ED/RD applications, too? I'm dropping by Columbia for a quick visit tomorrow. Will certainly share anything extraordinary!
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 07:55
I remember it was around mid-July, this time last year, that ED applications were released. I would expect something this week, given that they are not running behind schedule.

Keep working on the J-Term essays because they most likely will be the same, and if they're not they won't be drastically different. Make sure your recommenders are ready to go if you have not prepared them already; the Columbia recommendation letter requires more of recommenders than I've seen at other schools.

Good luck to everyone! You are all starting early, which puts you on the right path, and your strong applications will be a direct result of this level of initiative.
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 09:08
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I visited Columbia in April. I really loved it. I attended the global economy. I think the professor did a really good job at engage the students in the class, and the students also participated. I like how the class is integrated with the theory and analysis of current events instead of just theory (drawing curves). At the end, there was a debate on whether Chinese economy is overheating. I thought that was very entertaining and I can see how engaged the students are on the topic.

I had lunch and chat with the Investment banking group VP(asia), since that is my short-term career goal. It was quite fruitful. He worked in IB before he attended Columbia, so he already have his own experience with the industry. The fact the he worked both in the US and in China give me have a better understanding of the career that I'm pursuing. I also walked around and talked to random people on campus, they were all very friendly. But, the important thing is that they all look happy. :P

Anyone is frustrated with the theory and practice essay?


This is funny :-)

I attended through the host program in April 2007... and there was the same class about China overheating! I guess it's still a hot topic. ;-)
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 10:27
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Wait, so it's confirmed that the J-term essays are going to part of the ED/RD applications, too? I'm dropping by Columbia for a quick visit tomorrow. Will certainly share anything extraordinary!


No, it's not confirmed. I'm just working on it and feeling very frustrated. :(
Hope you have fun at Columbia. Update us :P
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 10:28
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This is funny :-)
I attended through the host program in April 2007... and there was the same class about China overheating! I guess it's still a hot topic. ;-)


Haha.. that is funny. Where Chinese market is the hottest market right now. :P
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 10:40
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Wait, so it's confirmed that the J-term essays are going to part of the ED/RD applications, too? I'm dropping by Columbia for a quick visit tomorrow. Will certainly share anything extraordinary!


No, it's not confirmed. I'm just working on it and feeling very frustrated. :(
Hope you have fun at Columbia. Update us :P


I was really frustrated too and I thought it was a terrible question. But, I ended up doing about 7-8 drafts of it and I now feel really good about that essay. So, now if they replace it I'm gonna be pissed off! I'm almost done with my career goals essay also and a couple drafts into both the failure essay and the passion essay. The passion essay is really tough. Hopefully they don't change these essays at all (or at least not much) because I've done a lot of work. I'm thinking I may have actually done too much work on them already since I don't know if we will even get the same questions, but I really want to get my app in by the end of August.
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 16:30
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I was really frustrated too and I thought it was a terrible question. But, I ended up doing about 7-8 drafts of it and I now feel really good about that essay. So, now if they replace it I'm gonna be pissed off! I'm almost done with my career goals essay also and a couple drafts into both the failure essay and the passion essay. The passion essay is really tough. Hopefully they don't change these essays at all (or at least not much) because I've done a lot of work. I'm thinking I may have actually done too much work on them already since I don't know if we will even get the same questions, but I really want to get my app in by the end of August.


I just started my first essay - the goals essay, and it is taking time. I thought the passion essay would be easy. Why did it feel so tough to you?
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IHateTheGMAT, I might have some good news for you.

I went to an information session with the Assistant Director of Admissions at CBS today, and she said this year there were going to be 3 essays instead of the 4 in earlier years. The ones she specifically mentioned were:

-edit posting the actual essay topics below-

Essay 1: What are your short-term and long-term post-MBA goals? How will Columbia Business School help you achieve these goals? (Recommended 750 word limit)

Essay 2: Master Classes are the epitome of bridging the gap between theory and practice at Columbia Business School. View link below. Please provide an example from your own life in which practical experience taught you more than theory alone. (Recommended 500 word limit)
RealVideo: http://merlin.gsb.columbia.edu:8080/ramgen/video1/faculty/MasterClass-promo.rm

Essay 3: Please provide an example of a team failure of which you’ve been a part. If given a second chance, what would you do differently? (Recommended 500 word limit)

The optional essay remains, well, optional.

It looks like the essays are going to be the same as the J-term essays, except that there's not going to be an Essay 4 about your "passions" etc.

She said the ED application was going to go live by the end of next week.

A couple of other interesting things said during the session, "no difference in selectivity between ED and RD" :-D, and that CBS expects applications to be up 20% in the coming cycle (unless I misheard her and she was talking about 2007 applications being up 20%).

So, happy writing folks! Will be visiting a class at CBS tomorrow morning.

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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 17:50
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IHateTheGMAT, I might have some good news for you.

I went to an information session with the Assistant Director of Admissions at CBS today, and she said this year there were going to be 3 essays instead of the 4 in earlier years. The ones she specifically mentioned were:

Essay 1: The standard goals essay from earlier years.

Essay 2: The Master Class "Practice versus Theory" essay someone cited earlier in the thread.

Essay 3: The "team failure" thing someone else mentioned earlier.

It looks like the essays are going to be the same as the J-term essays, except that there's not going to be an Essay 4 about your "passions" etc.

She said the ED application was going to go live by the end of next week.

A couple of other interesting things said during the session, "no difference in selectivity between ED and RD" :-D, and that CBS expects applications to be up 20% in the coming cycle (unless I misheard her and she was talking about 2007 applications being up 20%).

So, happy writing folks! Will be visiting a class at CBS tomorrow morning.


Kudos. Thank you very much for the news.

Let us know how the class visit goes.
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 18:26
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A couple of other interesting things said during the session, "no difference in selectivity between ED and RD" :-D, and that CBS expects applications to be up 20% in the coming cycle (unless I misheard her and she was talking about 2007 applications being up 20%).



When the application season closed this year, Columbia had posted on their website that applications were up 7% from 2007.
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 20:41
20% yikes. I don't buy the selectivity issue. I've heard from AdCom members that early RD is the same as ED.
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 20:47
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IHateTheGMAT, I might have some good news for you.

I went to an information session with the Assistant Director of Admissions at CBS today, and she said this year there were going to be 3 essays instead of the 4 in earlier years. The ones she specifically mentioned were:

-edit posting the actual essay topics below-

Essay 1: What are your short-term and long-term post-MBA goals? How will Columbia Business School help you achieve these goals? (Recommended 750 word limit)

Essay 2: Master Classes are the epitome of bridging the gap between theory and practice at Columbia Business School. View link below. Please provide an example from your own life in which practical experience taught you more than theory alone. (Recommended 500 word limit)
RealVideo: http://merlin.gsb.columbia.edu:8080/ramgen/video1/faculty/MasterClass-promo.rm

Essay 3: Please provide an example of a team failure of which you’ve been a part. If given a second chance, what would you do differently? (Recommended 500 word limit)

The optional essay remains, well, optional.

It looks like the essays are going to be the same as the J-term essays, except that there's not going to be an Essay 4 about your "passions" etc.

She said the ED application was going to go live by the end of next week.

A couple of other interesting things said during the session, "no difference in selectivity between ED and RD" :-D, and that CBS expects applications to be up 20% in the coming cycle (unless I misheard her and she was talking about 2007 applications being up 20%).

So, happy writing folks! Will be visiting a class at CBS tomorrow morning.


Kudos!

Thanks a ton for the awesome news! It's really helpful. I guess all my work on the J-Term essays wasn't a waste, and my worst one is gone! Cool.

The 20% number is definitely scary though.

Thanks again. great info
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2008, 20:56
I liked the passion essay for a while now :evil: Oh.... well.

I hope there is an advantage in applying ED than RD, because I expect the love to be mutual. :cry:
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2008, 00:52
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IHateTheGMAT, I might have some good news for you.

I went to an information session with the Assistant Director of Admissions at CBS today, and she said this year there were going to be 3 essays instead of the 4 in earlier years. The ones she specifically mentioned were:

-edit posting the actual essay topics below-

Essay 1: What are your short-term and long-term post-MBA goals? How will Columbia Business School help you achieve these goals? (Recommended 750 word limit)

Essay 2: Master Classes are the epitome of bridging the gap between theory and practice at Columbia Business School. View link below. Please provide an example from your own life in which practical experience taught you more than theory alone. (Recommended 500 word limit)
RealVideo: http://merlin.gsb.columbia.edu:8080/ramgen/video1/faculty/MasterClass-promo.rm

Essay 3: Please provide an example of a team failure of which you’ve been a part. If given a second chance, what would you do differently? (Recommended 500 word limit)

The optional essay remains, well, optional.

It looks like the essays are going to be the same as the J-term essays, except that there's not going to be an Essay 4 about your "passions" etc.

She said the ED application was going to go live by the end of next week.

A couple of other interesting things said during the session, "no difference in selectivity between ED and RD" :-D, and that CBS expects applications to be up 20% in the coming cycle (unless I misheard her and she was talking about 2007 applications being up 20%).

So, happy writing folks! Will be visiting a class at CBS tomorrow morning.


Maybe I'm going crazy, but to me this sounds like bad news. :-/

3 essays, only? #1 future goals, #2 theory/practice, #3 team failure. 1750 words in total to convey the roundness of our profile? ECs? Leadership? Accomplishments? Personal values/traits? Future plans?

Is it me, or this is a lot to cover in such specific essays? I thought the original 4 didn't allow much room either, but this seems worse.

Maybe I'm not being creative enough, or short sighted as to how to make the most of these 3 essays. Can someone please share how he plans to cover all the bases using these 3 essays?

Thanks a lot
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2008, 03:38
I don't believe that the quality of students ED to RD are the same, maybe the % admitted.
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