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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 07 Jul 2008, 12:05
The dates are released. Not sure about the essays though. Will they be the same as this year's J-term essays?

September 2009 Early Decision Aug. 13, 2008 (Within 10 weeks) Oct. 8, 2008(Deadline)
September 2009 (International Applicants) January 7, 2009 (Within 12 weeks) March 4, 2009*(dDeadline)
September 2009 (U.S. Citizens and Permanent Residents) January 7, 2009 (Within 12 weeks) April 15, 2009*(Deadline)

http://www4.gsb.columbia.edu/mba/learnmore/options
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2008, 05:50
Hey guys thanks fort an informative thread!

I'm looking towards applying to Columbia this fall too. I'm an Intl student.

I'm wondering how in the Columbia atmosphere would be. Do people hang out on campus (Uris, Warren halls) after classes? Is the bschool far away from the rest of the university or do bschoolers mingle with other people? Or does everyone go their own separate way? I don't like using the word, but is Columbia a "commuter" school (whatever your definition) or not so much?

From those who visited the campus, how is it?

I'm really interested in Columbia and any help would be great :)

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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2008, 06:28
Foo Fighter,

Columbia is near all of the action. One great thing about Columbia is when you step onto the campus from the busy the busy NYC street you are immediately whisked away to a college campus. All of the buildings and halls are located on these main grounds, so you certainly feel like you are part of the university. I couldn't say whether b-school students mingle with students from other schools, but it would not be hard to do so.

Columbia is not a "commuter" school. Being that it is at the top of Manhattan in Morningside Heights (the 100's), everyone has to travel far, relative to other areas of Manhattan. Therefore, eveyone tends to stay on campus all day with classes, groups work, recruiting sessions, and socializing.

fooFighter wrote:
Hey guys thanks fort an informative thread!

I'm looking towards applying to Columbia this fall too. I'm an Intl student.

I'm wondering how in the Columbia atmosphere would be. Do people hang out on campus (Uris, Warren halls) after classes? Is the bschool far away from the rest of the university or do bschoolers mingle with other people? Or does everyone go their own separate way? I don't like using the word, but is Columbia a "commuter" school (whatever your definition) or not so much?

From those who visited the campus, how is it?

I'm really interested in Columbia and any help would be great :)

Cheers!
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2008, 11:49
How will I know if the early decision application becomes available? I try to see by clicking on start an application, then a Spring 2009 button came up. I hope that doesn't lock me in for the Spring 2009 application. Anyone knows?
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2008, 11:59
Has anyone started working on the J-Term essays with the thought (hope) that they will be the same as ED?
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2008, 14:13
Yep - Me right here!! I have a feeling they will replace Essay 2 from J-term (theory vs practice) with something else though..
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2008, 14:17
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Yep - Me right here!! I have a feeling they will replace Essay 2 from J-term (theory vs practice) with something else though..


Oddly enough I was sort of thinking the same thing. Well, not that we would definitely repalce it but that if they did replace or change any that would be the one. What makes you think they will replace it?
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2008, 14:22
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How will I know if the early decision application becomes available? I try to see by clicking on start an application, then a Spring 2009 button came up. I hope that doesn't lock me in for the Spring 2009 application. Anyone knows?



I clicked on Spring 2009 application. Later I called the admission office and checked, and the lady there told me that I can start the fall term application once it goes live. She was very nice and went ahead to tell me that any information I fill in J-term app will not carry over and that I do not have to worry about starting more than one app.
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2008, 15:15
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Yep - Me right here!! I have a feeling they will replace Essay 2 from J-term (theory vs practice) with something else though..


Oddly enough I was sort of thinking the same thing. Well, not that we would definitely repalce it but that if they did replace or change any that would be the one. What makes you think they will replace it?


Hmm..well here is my take on it. On every school's essay they usually try to cover three things,

1. Goals
2. Past accomplishment + Leader
3. Character essay/Ethics/Passion (the wildcard)

Looking at CBS, their essay 1 is a FORWARD-LOOKING goals essay, so there is not much room to squeeze in your past accomplishments in detail if you have to combine your goals +why mba? +why cbs? in 750 words. Their essay 2 also does not give a whole lot of leeway for past accomplisments + leadership although I can concieve people trying to FIT it in theory vs practice. The essay 3 is more of a place to discuss other aspects of the personality.

Note that some schools (like chicago) have a long enough essay 1 (1500 words) to cover both goals and past accomplishments

Thats why I think, no wait, i HOPE that they change essay 2 to something more generic like "greatest achievement", "what makes a good leader?" kind of essay. Its just wishful thinking though.. :) What about you?
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2008, 15:19
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happybunny wrote:
How will I know if the early decision application becomes available? I try to see by clicking on start an application, then a Spring 2009 button came up. I hope that doesn't lock me in for the Spring 2009 application. Anyone knows?



I clicked on Spring 2009 application. Later I called the admission office and checked, and the lady there told me that I can start the fall term application once it goes live. She was very nice and went ahead to tell me that any information I fill in J-term app will not carry over and that I do not have to worry about starting more than one app.


did she happen to say when the '09 application would go live? what's the spring '09 application anyway?
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2008, 23:12
Hey djhouse. Thanks man. You've been very helpful. Count me in as a Columbia Applicant!


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Foo Fighter,

Columbia is near all of the action. One great thing about Columbia is when you step onto the campus from the busy the busy NYC street you are immediately whisked away to a college campus. All of the buildings and halls are located on these main grounds, so you certainly feel like you are part of the university. I couldn't say whether b-school students mingle with students from other schools, but it would not be hard to do so.

Columbia is not a "commuter" school. Being that it is at the top of Manhattan in Morningside Heights (the 100's), everyone has to travel far, relative to other areas of Manhattan. Therefore, eveyone tends to stay on campus all day with classes, groups work, recruiting sessions, and socializing.

fooFighter wrote:
Hey guys thanks fort an informative thread!

I'm looking towards applying to Columbia this fall too. I'm an Intl student.

I'm wondering how in the Columbia atmosphere would be. Do people hang out on campus (Uris, Warren halls) after classes? Is the bschool far away from the rest of the university or do bschoolers mingle with other people? Or does everyone go their own separate way? I don't like using the word, but is Columbia a "commuter" school (whatever your definition) or not so much?

From those who visited the campus, how is it?

I'm really interested in Columbia and any help would be great :)

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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2008, 04:52
Guys what is the acceptance rate for the ED round?
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2008, 05:49
I'll apply just because it's close to home....
And I know the campus very well :)
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2008, 09:27
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Yep - Me right here!! I have a feeling they will replace Essay 2 from J-term (theory vs practice) with something else though..


Oddly enough I was sort of thinking the same thing. Well, not that we would definitely repalce it but that if they did replace or change any that would be the one. What makes you think they will replace it?


Hmm..well here is my take on it. On every school's essay they usually try to cover three things,

1. Goals
2. Past accomplishment + Leader
3. Character essay/Ethics/Passion (the wildcard)

Looking at CBS, their essay 1 is a FORWARD-LOOKING goals essay, so there is not much room to squeeze in your past accomplishments in detail if you have to combine your goals +why mba? +why cbs? in 750 words. Their essay 2 also does not give a whole lot of leeway for past accomplisments + leadership although I can concieve people trying to FIT it in theory vs practice. The essay 3 is more of a place to discuss other aspects of the personality.

Note that some schools (like chicago) have a long enough essay 1 (1500 words) to cover both goals and past accomplishments

Thats why I think, no wait, i HOPE that they change essay 2 to something more generic like "greatest achievement", "what makes a good leader?" kind of essay. Its just wishful thinking though.. :) What about you?


My thinking was pretty similar. Basically, when I look at their set of essay questions I think "How can they decide which applicants they want based on this set of questions? They just don't seem to give many opportunities to discuss accomplishments, leadership, what you've done, etc. I also think essay 2 is a pretty poor question and its clear that its just a transparent attempt to advertise their master classes (I mean did you see that promo video they want us to watch!? It's like a five minute commercial for CBS!). Problem is.... that's also what makes me think they might keep the question.... the fact that they clearly want to advertise their master classes. I mean they can talk about stuff in brocures, website, adcom presentations, etc. But the one way to ensure every applicant knows about it is to put it in an essay question!

Right now I am attempting to force some of my accomplishments into the topics they gave us because I want the adcom to know about them. The but it's not easy....
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2008, 09:54
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what's the spring '09 application anyway?


It's the school's January-term program.


fatb wrote:
I'll apply just because it's close to home.... :)


That's a great answer to "Fit question!" :lol:
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2008, 10:40
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sterny wrote:
Yep - Me right here!! I have a feeling they will replace Essay 2 from J-term (theory vs practice) with something else though..


Oddly enough I was sort of thinking the same thing. Well, not that we would definitely repalce it but that if they did replace or change any that would be the one. What makes you think they will replace it?


Hmm..well here is my take on it. On every school's essay they usually try to cover three things,

1. Goals
2. Past accomplishment + Leader
3. Character essay/Ethics/Passion (the wildcard)

Looking at CBS, their essay 1 is a FORWARD-LOOKING goals essay, so there is not much room to squeeze in your past accomplishments in detail if you have to combine your goals +why mba? +why cbs? in 750 words. Their essay 2 also does not give a whole lot of leeway for past accomplisments + leadership although I can concieve people trying to FIT it in theory vs practice. The essay 3 is more of a place to discuss other aspects of the personality.

Note that some schools (like chicago) have a long enough essay 1 (1500 words) to cover both goals and past accomplishments

Thats why I think, no wait, i HOPE that they change essay 2 to something more generic like "greatest achievement", "what makes a good leader?" kind of essay. Its just wishful thinking though.. :) What about you?


Hey sterny, I've made the exact same point on the BW Columbia ED thread. I don't think it is a very comprehensive set of essays, when compared to Kellogg's or even Harvard's. It feels like we can't really tell our story.

But as, ChrisW noted, you can force feed your achievements in there - it just ain't very easy!

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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2008, 12:16
For regular decision, I understand that admissions are conducted on a rolling basis, and the earlier you apply - the better.

However, considering that the AdCom technically reviews applications from January - April, are applications submitted in lets say October or November given priority over applications submitted in December or January?

For example, will people who submitted in October and November start getting interviews in January, whereas people who submit in December/January will only be interviewed in February or March?
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2008, 19:17
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For regular decision, I understand that admissions are conducted on a rolling basis, and the earlier you apply - the better.

However, considering that the AdCom technically reviews applications from January - April, are applications submitted in lets say October or November given priority over applications submitted in December or January?

For example, will people who submitted in October and November start getting interviews in January, whereas people who submit in December/January will only be interviewed in February or March?


They do give priority to people that submitted earlier, even though they don't start reviewing apps till January. They review apps in the order received, so if you submit in November they will review you before somebody that submits in December. They won't start till early January, but when they do start they will review Oct/Nov people first.
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 10 Jul 2008, 04:35
The review for RD is 12 weeks so if you submit the day after ED, then you'll have initial notification in 12 weeks, no 12 weeks from January. It's rolling and they continue reviewing applications, there is not break from Oct - Jan.
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Re: Calling all Columbia Applicants for 2009! [#permalink] New post 10 Jul 2008, 05:33
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I clicked on Spring 2009 application. Later I called the admission office and checked, and the lady there told me that I can start the fall term application once it goes live. She was very nice and went ahead to tell me that any information I fill in J-term app will not carry over and that I do not have to worry about starting more than one app.


Thanks anadimisra, I guess I'll have to wait patiently for the application to become available.
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