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02 Sep 2008, 20:07
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Here is how my visit went:
Get to the office - actually running late, speed to the lot, sprint to the office. Where's the office!! Couple friendly students show me the way...

In the office it was just one admissions guy and 2 other visitors waiting for a class visit. A student guide showed up and walked us to class, which gave us an opportunity to chat with him a bit on the way. Then we sat in on a terribly boring finance class (I thought it was boring and I'm in finance!). Afterwards the student took us back, but since we had some time to kill since our next scheduled event me and the other visitors hung out in the atrium for a bit.

Next we went to the office for our admissions presentation. I was a bit surprised when 3 new Cornell students walked into the office. It turned out they would be giving the presentation. First, we went and picked up some lunch and drinks (paid for by adcom) then they took us into some small conference room and we went through a slide presentation. But the slide presentation was mostly just to make sure they hit some key points. For the most part it was just a free wheeling discussion between the current students and the visitors. We talked about everything - classes, recruiting, living in Ithaca, the party scene, etc. Afterwards the same 3 students took us on a tour of the school and we continued to chat about various topics. And then that was the end of the official visit.

Sounded a little so-so, at least from your short description (perhaps it's just how I read through it, though). Did the visit make you MORE interested in attending??? Or same or less interest after the visit?

Overall - more interested. Also, check out my response to solaris on the social scene a couple posts below the one you quoted. I really had a great time. I had a better time here than at any other visit. I also was impressed with the recruitng there. Every single student I met had landed an impressive job or internship. The staff was also amazing and everyone seemed pretty happy. It was just a great place, I didnt want to leave. And for an IM guy, the Parker Center was awesome (though a little 80s looking). One thing I will say is that I visited Columbia, Cornell and Tuck during the same week and I would say there was a noticeable dropoff in the quality of the students at Cornell compared to the other 2 schools I visited (in terms of apparent intelligence, ability, etc). Basically, the students were less impressive. Columbia and Tuck were very equal, I was extremely impressed with the students at both schools. However, to be fair to Cornell I have to say that I was sitting in on a very boring lecture based finance class that even I would have sat back during looking bored and not participating. So someone may have had the same thoughts about me. At Columbia and Tuck I sat in on case discussions that were very interesting and where students were forced to be engaged (cold calling by the professor and such). So, in reality I really don't think it's a fair comparison. But, nonetheless that was the impression I had. But.... it didn't stop me from having a strong impression of the school overall. I really did like the students, the staff, Ithaca. I think I would have fun there. And the recruiting looked strong so I think I would land a good job afterwards. Those are my 2 most important criteria. Fun during. Great job after.
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02 Sep 2008, 20:11
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ryguy904 wrote:
IHateTheGMAT wrote:
Here is how my visit went:
Get to the office - actually running late, speed to the lot, sprint to the office. Where's the office!! Couple friendly students show me the way...

In the office it was just one admissions guy and 2 other visitors waiting for a class visit. A student guide showed up and walked us to class, which gave us an opportunity to chat with him a bit on the way. Then we sat in on a terribly boring finance class (I thought it was boring and I'm in finance!). Afterwards the student took us back, but since we had some time to kill since our next scheduled event me and the other visitors hung out in the atrium for a bit.

Next we went to the office for our admissions presentation. I was a bit surprised when 3 new Cornell students walked into the office. It turned out they would be giving the presentation. First, we went and picked up some lunch and drinks (paid for by adcom) then they took us into some small conference room and we went through a slide presentation. But the slide presentation was mostly just to make sure they hit some key points. For the most part it was just a free wheeling discussion between the current students and the visitors. We talked about everything - classes, recruiting, living in Ithaca, the party scene, etc. Afterwards the same 3 students took us on a tour of the school and we continued to chat about various topics. And then that was the end of the official visit.

Sounded a little so-so, at least from your short description (perhaps it's just how I read through it, though). Did the visit make you MORE interested in attending??? Or same or less interest after the visit?

Overall - more interested. Also, check out my response to solaris on the social scene a couple posts below the one you quoted. I really had a great time. I had a better time here than at any other visit. I also was impressed with the recruitng there. Every single student I met had landed an impressive job or internship. The staff was also amazing and everyone seemed pretty happy. It was just a great place, I didnt want to leave. And for an IM guy, the Parker Center was awesome (though a little 80s looking). One thing I will say is that I visited Columbia, Cornell and Tuck during the same week and I would say there was a noticeable dropoff in the quality of the students at Cornell compared to the other 2 schools I visited (in terms of apparent intelligence, ability, etc). Basically, the students were less impressive. Columbia and Tuck were very equal, I was extremely impressed with the students at both schools. However, to be fair to Cornell I have to say that I was sitting in on a very boring lecture based finance class that even I would have sat back during looking bored and not participating. So someone may have had the same thoughts about me. At Columbia and Tuck I sat in on case discussions that were very interesting and where students were forced to be engaged (cold calling by the professor and such). So, in reality I really don't think it's a fair comparison. But, nonetheless that was the impression I had. But.... it didn't stop me from having a strong impression of the school overall. I really did like the students, the staff, Ithaca. I think I would have fun there. And the recruiting looked strong so I think I would land a good job afterwards. Those are my 2 most important criteria. Fun during. Great job after.

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03 Sep 2008, 04:47
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Thanks, IHateTheGMAT. Sounds very promising.

I plan to visit September 15th. Has anyone been able to use the "Student Search" feature through Johnson's application system?

Apparently we are supposed to be able to use it, but my application username and password doesn't seem to work on the student search login page.

Anyone familiar with the campus know how far Sage Hall is from the East Hill Best Western? The Statler is a bit too expensive for my taste and I'm wondering if I can walk to campus from the Best Western.

Oh and that suicide by jumping into gorges think is just an urban legend, fatb.

Solaris,

I've been able to use the student search function and my username/password from the app works so I'm not sure what your difficulty would be... sorry.

I'll also be there on the 15th. I have a friend that lives in Binghamton which is about an hour south of Ithaca so I'll be staying with her so I'm not too sure about any of the hotels.
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03 Sep 2008, 05:16
Oh, good cereal255. Maybe we can meet in the afternoon on the 15th? I'll head back to New York early morning on the 16th.
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03 Sep 2008, 06:49
I'm looking forward to going back to the area. I went to school in Binghamton and spent quite a few weekends up in Ithaca since it's a much much nicer town... it's beautiful and I really want to spend some more time there. Just a beautiful environment to study/live in. Plus I won't have to give up Wegmans (which is the greatest supermarket in the world in case anyone was wondering)

What time slot is your class visit scheduled for? I have to get back to Buffalo that evening so mine is the 8:30 am one but I'll be staying for the 1:30 information session.
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03 Sep 2008, 07:04
Yes, I'll be there for the 1:30pm session myself. My class is at 11:45am.

One more application question - do we really have to fill out that confounded Excel template? Johnson isn't taking PDF transcripts like virtually every other reasonable school?
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03 Sep 2008, 11:04
I just filled out the Excel spreadsheets. Luckily I had all of my transcripts in a file so I just had to pull them out and copy all the data. (It's slow at work right now so I have lots of time on my hands to do such things as well as freak out about the essays) I don't think that they're accepting PDFs though but I'd call the admissions office and ask since they seem to be happy to help with those sorts of questions.
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06 Sep 2008, 11:53
Are you guys sending official GMAT scores from GMAC to Johnson as part of your application? Or does Johnson only require unofficial scores until an offer of admission is made? The website doesn't seem to be very clear on this and it seems to be taking 4-5 days for the admissions office to respond to e-mail queries.
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10 Sep 2008, 09:57
Any Cornell applicants going to the Parker Series Event in Washington DC tonite?
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10 Sep 2008, 11:43
I was talking with the admissions officers last week, and they were gearing up for their long traveling season. Good luck to all of you who will be meeting them, they are all incredibly nice, and I think I learned more about what they want out of applicants in 15 minutes of talking with them than I did spending hours on the website.
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10 Sep 2008, 13:42
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I was talking with the admissions officers last week, and they were gearing up for their long traveling season. Good luck to all of you who will be meeting them, they are all incredibly nice, and I think I learned more about what they want out of applicants in 15 minutes of talking with them than I did spending hours on the website.

Care to share?

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10 Sep 2008, 17:55
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I was talking with the admissions officers last week, and they were gearing up for their long traveling season. Good luck to all of you who will be meeting them, they are all incredibly nice, and I think I learned more about what they want out of applicants in 15 minutes of talking with them than I did spending hours on the website.

I believe that, but more because the website is really a piece of junk. They've got to improve the quality and the content in the website.
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11 Sep 2008, 09:39
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Care to share?

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Well, through the experience with all the schools, I always learned more through in person discussion than I did through reading a website. It was never the quality of the website or information, but only that by meeting admissions officers, you get an idea of the personality of the school.

At every school I applied to, getting to talk to admissions officers and visiting the school was consistently more helpful than reading the website. Visiting was a stretch because all the schools I was applying to were across the country, but phone conversations were the biggest help out of everything for me.
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11 Sep 2008, 17:23
By the way folks, I checked with the admissions committee and you can indeed upload PDF transcripts instead of that awful Excel template using the online application system. That's a huge relief.

I will be visiting Johnson on Monday, and will post my experience here soon after.
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13 Sep 2008, 17:08
The application prescribes a word limit of 400 words for essay 3, clearly they're looking for a bit more than just a table of contents.

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hi, i know "essay" 3 was covered a little but im still a little unsure--are we supposed to literally just provide a table of contents, ie--no essay? or is there supposed to be an essay?
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13 Sep 2008, 17:27
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The application prescribes a word limit of 400 words for essay 3, clearly they're looking for a bit more than just a table of contents.

young_gun wrote:
hi, i know "essay" 3 was covered a little but im still a little unsure--are we supposed to literally just provide a table of contents, ie--no essay? or is there supposed to be an essay?

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13 Sep 2008, 19:51
I don't think they are looking for a traditional essay at all in this question.

I put only chapter headings and a SHORT blurb about what you would find in each chapter. I did chapter titles and then 2 bullet points for each chapter explaining what would be included in each. I think they are looking for something creative in this essay and if they just wanted an autobiography they would have asked for something more direct like what was the defining moment of your life or something like that.

At least that's what I'm hoping anyway since my table of contents is significantly shorter than 400 words and I don't think expanding it would do any good. If I get dinged then I'll know better next time. =[
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13 Sep 2008, 20:18
I absolutely don't think they want an essay. Have u ever seen an essay in a table of contents. There are a lot of ways they could have worded this essay. By saying table of contents I think they were being as explicit as possible in asking for chapter headings only.
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13 Sep 2008, 21:03
My hunch is that they are looking for creativity in the chapter titles, and that is the main goal.

I also have a feeling that the interviewers will not go into the interview "resume only" and may use the table of contents to dig a bit deeper during the interview.....we will wait and see
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14 Sep 2008, 07:06
In my opinion you are passing on an opportunity to tell the admissions committee about yourself by confining yourself to short chapter headings and nothing else. The two other required essays and your resume will cover all the "professional" bases, so to say.

Where else do you show who you are as an individual? And why would they give you up to 400 words for that essay, if a simple table of contents is all they are seeking - just so you go completely overboard and come up with 25 chapters covering your life from 1980 to 2030?

Creative chapter titles? Not sure if demonstrating our "wordsmithing" prowess is the best use of that space. This is going to be like any other business school essay, just with an added twist.
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