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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2008, 16:26
i have a 730 gmat. so i dont mind hearing that. but a low gpa.

i just think the competiotin this year for all mba top 15 schools will be incredibly fierce. i mean just ridiculously so.
i have a 730 gmat, and am applying to duke, cornell, harvard, mit, and kellogg. honestly, i could see myself getting rejected at all 5 schools. which sucks. i mean harvard is an automatic rejection more or less. mit/kellogg longshots. cornell and duke i think its reasonable to expect i have a chance. but it just gets so subjective to a point that nothing is guaranteed.

im whining.

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2008, 16:31
Don't worry irishspring, you're not the only one in that boat. Just put out the best application you can and leave the rest to Lady Luck 8-)

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i have a 730 gmat. so i dont mind hearing that. but a low gpa.

i just think the competiotin this year for all mba top 15 schools will be incredibly fierce. i mean just ridiculously so.
i have a 730 gmat, and am applying to duke, cornell, harvard, mit, and kellogg. honestly, i could see myself getting rejected at all 5 schools. which sucks. i mean harvard is an automatic rejection more or less. mit/kellogg longshots. cornell and duke i think its reasonable to expect i have a chance. but it just gets so subjective to a point that nothing is guaranteed.

im whining.

sorry.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2008, 17:34
irishspring wrote:
i have a 730 gmat. so i dont mind hearing that. but a low gpa.

i just think the competiotin this year for all mba top 15 schools will be incredibly fierce. i mean just ridiculously so.
i have a 730 gmat, and am applying to duke, cornell, harvard, mit, and kellogg. honestly, i could see myself getting rejected at all 5 schools. which sucks. i mean harvard is an automatic rejection more or less. mit/kellogg longshots. cornell and duke i think its reasonable to expect i have a chance. but it just gets so subjective to a point that nothing is guaranteed.

im whining.

sorry.


I don't think anything will be a "sure bet" this year, as far as applications go. Someone on this board (I don't remember who, forgive me) said somewhere that you can't really consider anything in the top 18 or so to be a safety school. I really think that's going to be the case this year. But what can you do, right? We all just have to give it our best shot.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2008, 18:38
Ill be applying to Corenell this year.. Just wrote my essays , based on last years essays. My only question is I have used the additional essay to mention my EC, and leadership experiences outside work.

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2008, 18:49
agreed on top 18. thing is. and thi sis what you have to ask yourself. at what point is it worth it to you to leave b school for what you already have? i have to say, that in a very very very general sense, once you start getting out of those 30 or so schools that might claim top 18, it gets really hard to justify leaving for two years, with no pay to get an mba if you are in a pretty dang good spot.

im not kicking the bucket on b school. but for me there is a point where i say 'enough is enough' and i dont apply to any schools outside a certain set.

people talk bout 'safety schools'. i think 'safety schools' are ok for undergrad. but for grad school, we are paying alot of money for an investment, and if that return on the investment doesnt match what we put in it, or are leaving, then a 'safety school' becomes a bad investment.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2008, 19:00
I am definitely interested in a group visit to Ithaca.

I am applying in R1 and want to visit the first half of Sept.

I guess the next step is to figure out a date and when their class visit schedules are published online.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2008, 23:36
irishspring wrote:
people talk bout 'safety schools'. i think 'safety schools' are ok for undergrad. but for grad school, we are paying alot of money for an investment, and if that return on the investment doesnt match what we put in it, or are leaving, then a 'safety school' becomes a bad investment.


Agree with you. But I think safety schools may be a good bet for younger candidates , those who have around 2 years of work ex, and for those whom doing an MBA matters more than from where theyve done it.

Theyve obviously not climbed the corporate ladder as much as the experienced lot, and their risks are much lower, compared to someone who has 5-6 years of work ex, and will leave a plush job, to take up a heavy loan and no earnings for the next two years.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Jul 2008, 01:18
irishspring wrote:
i have a 730 gmat. so i dont mind hearing that. but a low gpa.

i just think the competiotin this year for all mba top 15 schools will be incredibly fierce. i mean just ridiculously so.
i have a 730 gmat, and am applying to duke, cornell, harvard, mit, and kellogg. honestly, i could see myself getting rejected at all 5 schools. which sucks. i mean harvard is an automatic rejection more or less. mit/kellogg longshots. cornell and duke i think its reasonable to expect i have a chance. but it just gets so subjective to a point that nothing is guaranteed.

im whining.

sorry.

Haha, don't worry too much, irish. There are plenty of people on this forum who feel the same way you do and there are some pretty qualified candidates roaming around here. Half the time I don't think I can get into Compton Community College.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Jul 2008, 08:31
irishspring wrote:
agreed on top 18. thing is. and thi sis what you have to ask yourself. at what point is it worth it to you to leave b school for what you already have? i have to say, that in a very very very general sense, once you start getting out of those 30 or so schools that might claim top 18, it gets really hard to justify leaving for two years, with no pay to get an mba if you are in a pretty dang good spot.

im not kicking the bucket on b school. but for me there is a point where i say 'enough is enough' and i dont apply to any schools outside a certain set.

people talk bout 'safety schools'. i think 'safety schools' are ok for undergrad. but for grad school, we are paying alot of money for an investment, and if that return on the investment doesnt match what we put in it, or are leaving, then a 'safety school' becomes a bad investment.


Maybe this will help you out in your decision.

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Jul 2008, 09:08
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Maybe this will help you out in your decision.

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Wow that is an awesome tool. Thanks!
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2008, 04:19
whats the culture of cornell like? is it very cutthroat (as i've heard)?
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2008, 09:38
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whats the culture of cornell like? is it very cutthroat (as i've heard)?


That's what you heard?! Wow! Who have you been talking to? I would suggest never taking advice from that person on anything. Cornell actually has a reputation for being the friendliest of the top programs and that's certainly what I saw when I visited. In fact, that rep is so strong that a cornell adcom I talked to actually mentioned that his staff gets irritated that cornell is just known as "the nice MBA program" rather than being known for the success of its students, quality of curriculum, etc.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2008, 09:51
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whats the culture of cornell like? is it very cutthroat (as i've heard)?


That's what you heard?! Wow! Who have you been talking to? I would suggest never taking advice from that person on anything. Cornell actually has a reputation for being the friendliest of the top programs and that's certainly what I saw when I visited. In fact, that rep is so strong that a cornell adcom I talked to actually mentioned that his staff gets irritated that cornell is just known as "the nice MBA program" rather than being known for the success of its students, quality of curriculum, etc.


Agreed. When I visited Cornell, I didn't get a cutthroat feeling at all. It seems like they are all about helping each other and creating a tight-knit community.

Perhaps the cutthroat reputation is more suited to the undergraduate school, which I've heard is extremely competitive.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2008, 16:13
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bmwhype2 wrote:
whats the culture of cornell like? is it very cutthroat (as i've heard)?


That's what you heard?! Wow! Who have you been talking to? I would suggest never taking advice from that person on anything. Cornell actually has a reputation for being the friendliest of the top programs and that's certainly what I saw when I visited. In fact, that rep is so strong that a cornell adcom I talked to actually mentioned that his staff gets irritated that cornell is just known as "the nice MBA program" rather than being known for the success of its students, quality of curriculum, etc.


Agreed. When I visited Cornell, I didn't get a cutthroat feeling at all. It seems like they are all about helping each other and creating a tight-knit community.

Perhaps the cutthroat reputation is more suited to the undergraduate school, which I've heard is extremely competitive.


While I don't know that much about the Johnson school, I know that the undergraduate program is pretty cutthroat, especially in the college of engineering and among the pre-meds.
The other undergraduates at Cornell are not nearly as cutthroat, but I still wouldn't say that their the most friendly bunch of kids - probably just average in terms of friendliness.

The above only applies to the undergraduate program - I can definitely see how the MBA program at Cornell can have an extremely friendly culture with a tight-knit community.
I mean... what else are you going to but bond with your classmates when you're covered in snow in a college town with not much to do, and with no decent sized city within 100 miles :)

Not bashing it at all - I loved my 4 years there & definitely bonded with my classmates/made lifelong friends - & collegetown rocks haha.
Oh and don't forget slopeday - best day of the year - ever.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2008, 16:53
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Oh and don't forget slopeday - best day of the year - ever.


Please do explain...
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2008, 17:16
College tradition from what I hear...a day-long version of TNDC. :beer

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jasonc wrote:
Oh and don't forget slopeday - best day of the year - ever.


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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2008, 17:53
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jasonc wrote:
Oh and don't forget slopeday - best day of the year - ever.


Please do explain...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slope_Day :)
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2008, 19:00
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ryguy904 wrote:
jasonc wrote:
Oh and don't forget slopeday - best day of the year - ever.


Please do explain...

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2008, 19:08
jasonc wrote:

While I don't know that much about the Johnson school, I know that the undergraduate program is pretty cutthroat, especially in the college of engineering and among the pre-meds.
The other undergraduates at Cornell are not nearly as cutthroat, but I still wouldn't say that their the most friendly bunch of kids - probably just average in terms of friendliness.

The above only applies to the undergraduate program - I can definitely see how the MBA program at Cornell can have an extremely friendly culture with a tight-knit community.


This seems to fit in my experience. The students that I talked with during my visit all seemed like they were best friends.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 20 Jul 2008, 05:45
The folks applying Rd 1, is Cornell your top choice? While it's great to get a decision within 8-9 weeks, how do you feel about the deposit deadline most likely being in first week of January again? And didn't the admissions office run into some issues with processing all applications by the official decision dates?

And it sounds like Cornell offers interviews on-campus only? So if one goes to visit the campus before turning in the application, it's possible that one might have to head up there a second time if invited to an interview?
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