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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2008, 08:43
Wow, percentage of women in the latest class shot up to 39%
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2008, 08:45
They told me their average GMAT was up 10 points....and handed me a brochure that said "Median GMAT 700"....but the mean GMAT is the average. I wanted to give them a math lesson ;)

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I visited. But they just put it up online too!

http://www.johnson.cornell.edu/academic/mba/facts.html



They are so damn deceptive the way they always just show number of applicants and number enrolled (and not number accepted) and then they say things to Solaris like "we only accepted one out of nine applicants". Yeah, if your yield was 100%!! It really irritates me.

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2008, 12:30
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Are you guys sending official GMAT scores from GMAC to Johnson as part of your application? Or does Johnson only require unofficial scores until an offer of admission is made? The website doesn't seem to be very clear on this and it seems to be taking 4-5 days for the admissions office to respond to e-mail queries.


Did you ever get an answer to this? I'm wondering the same thing.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2008, 13:13
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Cornell Class of 2010 stats are out:

GMAT only went up 4 points to 694. GPA stayed the same at 3.3. Applicants up to 2667 from 2177.


That's a 23% jump in applicants! :shock:

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2008, 14:18
Johnson wants a copy of your score report (PDF), but no scores need officially be sent until an offer of admission is made. At least this is what I was told.

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Are you guys sending official GMAT scores from GMAC to Johnson as part of your application? Or does Johnson only require unofficial scores until an offer of admission is made? The website doesn't seem to be very clear on this and it seems to be taking 4-5 days for the admissions office to respond to e-mail queries.


Did you ever get an answer to this? I'm wondering the same thing.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2008, 14:23
Thanks. Are you just suppose to email that to them? I don't see anywhere to upload it in the app.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2008, 14:35
I called them and they said e-mail the PDF to your admissions officer, apparently they assign an officer to each applicant based on the first letter of your last name. They want some documentation of the scores you are self-reporting on the application. I assumed that could only mean a PDF copy of the score report you receive a week or so after the test.

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Thanks. Are you just suppose to email that to them? I don't see anywhere to upload it in the app.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2008, 15:57
Question. For the Park Fellowship, is that esssay question automatically sent then? or only to those that they first deem good enough.

SECOND. This a big one. Can one use the same subject they used for accomplishment/impact to organization essay question for the Park essay?
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2008, 16:02
also i will be visiting school next thursday. if anyone else is there. say hi.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2008, 16:36
I'd imagine the essay is automatically sent as long as you're a US citizen that checked the box on the application. I got the essay a few hours after I submitted so I doubt that anyone looked at it at all. From what the tour guide was saying they consider everyone for it that wants to send the essay in.

I wouldn't use the same exact essay but if you can expand on a specific leadership role within the first essay I think that'd be OK. The first essay was so short and if your experience was complex I'm sure there's a lot more to be said that will be relavent to Park.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Sep 2008, 08:45
just submitted my cornell app (my first one!). it's such a weird feeling...now waiting for the park fellowship essay and trying to send in wharton and HBS before sunday.

p.s. - i am not doing this from work - i am on vacation this week!
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2008, 15:01
Someone mentioned the 99% student placement rate for summer internships at Johnson earlier on this thread or elsewhere on the board (was that you IHateTheGMAT?).

While that sounded pretty impressive at first, an alumnus I spoke to earlier this week said that only half of the students at Johnson typically secure summer internships through on-campus recruiting. The full-time employment situation is similar, with around 50% of the students receiving full-time offers from either on-campus recruiting or internships secured through on-campus summer recruiting.

Just something people need to be aware of.
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2008, 17:09
solaris1 wrote:
Someone mentioned the 99% student placement rate for summer internships at Johnson earlier on this thread or elsewhere on the board (was that you IHateTheGMAT?).

While that sounded pretty impressive at first, an alumnus I spoke to earlier this week said that only half of the students at Johnson typically secure summer internships through on-campus recruiting. The full-time employment situation is similar, with around 50% of the students receiving full-time offers from either on-campus recruiting or internships secured through on-campus summer recruiting.

Just something people need to be aware of.


From the Class of 2007 stats, it breaks down like this...

Source of full-time job offers:
- on-campus recruiting (30%)
- 2006 summer internship from on-campus recruiting (24%)
- 2006 summer internship from other sources (9.4%)
- off-campus job search (26%)
- school-facilitated program (2.2%)
- Johnson school contact (8.6%)

Class of 2008 Internships:
- on-campus recruiting (45%)
- off-campus job search (35%)
- school-facilitated program (8%)
- Johnson school contact (13%)

I wonder how this compares with other similarly ranked schools? It seems like most other schools don't report these kind of stats.

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2008, 08:38
Darden's on-campus placement numbers were a bit higher, refurb. But not significantly so either.

By the way, you guys want to see a 2008 ranking in which Cornell lands the #1 spot (not 100% serious however)! :-D

http://www.dis-equilibrium.com/2008/05/where-i-take-turn-at-ranking-business.html

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2008, 09:38
Submitted app today!
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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2008, 10:02
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Darden's on-campus placement numbers were a bit higher, refurb. But not significantly so either.


I'm curious how those numbers break down for the "ultra-elite" schools. How many Wharton grads get full-time placement through on campus recruiting?

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2008, 10:10
As high as 76% including offers made via career office contacts, but not those through alumni or school contacts.

http://mbacareers.wharton.upenn.edu/report/source_2.cfm

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Darden's on-campus placement numbers were a bit higher, refurb. But not significantly so either.


I'm curious how those numbers break down for the "ultra-elite" schools. How many Wharton grads get full-time placement through on campus recruiting?

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2008, 11:29
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As high as 76% including offers made via career office contacts, but not those through alumni or school contacts.


Interesting!! If we assume that the 62% on-campus recruiting includes those going back to their internship employer, then it's not that much higher than Cornell's 54%.

One thing to note is that a lot more Wharton grads found jobs through school-facilitated programs (9% vs. 2%).

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2008, 12:11
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Quick question guys! How stringent is the Cornell word limit? I am at 423 words on essay 2. Should i edit my essay further?


I wouldn't worry about it. I've been following the +10% max rule. So for a 400 word essay you'll be OK going up to 440.

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Re: Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants! [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2008, 12:35
On one of the accepted.com chats, an admissions representative from Cornell was asked this exact question and she said she thought 440 words was a little too much. I would only follow the +10% rule on essays with "recommended" or "average" word limits.

In my opinion, unless you will compromise significant content, you should bring your word count down a bit.

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Quick question guys! How stringent is the Cornell word limit? I am at 423 words on essay 2. Should i edit my essay further?


I wouldn't worry about it. I've been following the +10% max rule. So for a 400 word essay you'll be OK going up to 440.

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