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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 26 Oct 2010, 07:34
does anyone have any experience with the interview process?
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 26 Oct 2010, 15:13
you have to schedule the interview yourself. the consortium should make a list available of all local CGSM alumni who you can choose, and you e-mail them asking them for a time when they're free. you DON'T necessarily have to choose an alum of the program/programs you are applying to (example: you are applying to NYU and Yale, but you choose to have your interview with an alum from Cornell - this is OK).

most schools will require only the 1 "general" interview. other schools will require you to have a 2nd, school specific interview; you should refer to the application / adcom from the specific school about this question.

the interview itself is fairly straightforward: tell me about your resume, why b-school, etc. make sure you pay attention to deadlines and get your general interview done as early as possible.
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 26 Oct 2010, 15:18
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Thanks Busybee!


Ok, so I've got a question for you guys.

The Consortium app has a question that asks "Are you of Hispanic or Latino descent?" I would check "Yes".

Then you scroll down to the next question and it asks for your Ethnicity. There is nothing there that I identify with, so what should I put? My parents came from Mexico, so should I check "Other" and then type in "Mexican"?


This made me frustrated filling out the app last year. I really wish they would correct this. At first it was funny. When you're under pressure to finish the app on time, I don't want to have a debate in my head about how to "classify" myself, lol.
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 02 Nov 2010, 07:06
For those applying to Tuck through the Consortium, did you opt to include a video as the answer to the supplementary essay? Just curious where folks went with this question.
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 06 Nov 2010, 07:27
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For those applying to Tuck through the Consortium, did you opt to include a video as the answer to the supplementary essay? Just curious where folks went with this question.



I'm editing my video now. I filmed up at Tuck and let's just say I have a creative approach to the task.
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 06 Nov 2010, 16:50
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does anyone have any experience with the interview process?


I just completed my consortium interview on monday...i looked at the very long list of potential interviewers and then tried to find people in my area, who went to one of the schools I am applying to. Then, I went on facebook, linkedin, etc. and tried to find out some more info about these specific people. I chose a person who I thought I could relate with most easily based on personality, interests, etc. Its always helpful to know what you're getting into. I sat researching people for several hours before I decided on one to request an interview with. It definitely helped.

As far as the interview, it was very standard, but my interviewer did mention that the consortium gives them little to no guidance regarding questions, etc. They are, however, required to ask about your commitment to the mission. The person only wanted to see my resume, no essays or any other documents. They also mentioned that after completing the interview to submit the email from the VIP section of the consortium page right away, because it often takes a long time to arrive.
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2010, 08:49
Do the core essays need to be different from the school essays? Do specific schools receive the core essays as well?
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2010, 09:06
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Do the core essays need to be different from the school essays? Do specific schools receive the core essays as well?


All schools receive the core essays and their school specific essay. They should be consistent together but the core should be generic to apply to any school.

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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2010, 14:01
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Do the core essays need to be different from the school essays? Do specific schools receive the core essays as well?


All schools receive the core essays and their school specific essay. They should be consistent together but the core should be generic to apply to any school.

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Okay, so I need to make sure not to use the same topic
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2010, 16:10
Does it make sense to have a consortium interview through a specific school if that school is not your first choice?
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2010, 18:03
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Well, if you don't have any experiences/work dedicated to the mission of the Consortium or it's not something you care about, then you would want to apply via the traditional route. But if you've got a solid story for your Consortium mission essay, can get a mission recommender, and can articulate that in an interview, I would do the Consortium all the way.

If you're on the fence or are not sure you have the right experience, call the Consortium or email them your story. They'll give you some guidance or can say if it's the right type of experience. I know a lot of people who did that.

The company access and network is also a huge reason to apply to the Consortium (beyond the consolidated application and fellowship possibilities). I'm in my second day of classes and already have 2 internship options for next summer that I've had for a month.



can you share what you did that was applicable for the mission statement?


I volunteered in classrooms for a non-profit and at work, I worked on a diversity initiative. My recommender was the leader of the diversity initiative at work and my mentor. There were people I know who had less direct connections but it doesn't need to be huge. It just needs to demonstrate you've made efforts in the past which would be an indicator of future behavior on a bigger scale during and after B-School.


Could you elaborate a little more on this? I'm still having trouble with the mission essay.

The mission of the Consortium for Graduate Study in Management, an alliance of leading American business schools and some of our country’s top corporations, is to enhance diversity in business education and leadership by helping to reduce the serious underrepresentation of African Americans, Hispanic Americans and Native Americans in both our member schools’ enrollments and the ranks of management.

What exactly are they looking for? I do lots of work with minorities and the underprivileged but they aren't exactly going to join the ranks of management. Many don't even have a high school diploma.
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 13 Nov 2010, 13:20
The following is a list of events / initiatives that Consortium applicants may be interested in. This is by no means an all inclusive list, so always keep your eyes open for similar opportunities that may arise:

General

Forte foundation - for women leaders in business; provide mentoring and fellowship opportunities
http://www.fortefoundation.org/site/PageServer

Robert Toigo foundation - for URM applicants; provide mentoring and fellowship opportunities
http://connected.toigofoundation.org/site/PageServer

Management Leadership for Tomorrow - for URM applicants; ongoing program that helps refine the core skills needed for a successful career in business. should apply ASAP if interested
http://www.ml4t.org/

MBA Jumpstart - summer conference for people interested in switching careers into Consulting or Investment banking; offers networking opportunities and career panels; similar to the Consortium OP in that people walked away with the conference in excellent positions to get internship offers before school even started. Apply in the spring
http://mbajumpstart.org/forums.php

Consulting

Deloitte Consulting Immersion Program - new pre-mba program that started last year; offers students a highly competitive pre-MBA internship at Deloitte; Deloitte also hosts a networking conference the summer before school. Apply in the spring
http://careers.deloitte.com/united-stat ... ntID=16293


Investment Banking

Pretty much all the large banks have diversity initiatives that include pre-MBA camps and events the summer before school starts. These are essentially a must if you intend to work in the field, especially if you have no prior finance experience. The applications for these don't usually start until the spring, but make sure to keep them on your radar. They are generally competitive, so make sure you get your app in early (apply in the spring)

JP Morgan Early Advantage - http://careers.jpmorgan.com/student/jpm ... ge/program
Morgan Stanley Early Insight -
Goldman Sachs Pre MBA Camp - http://www2.goldmansachs.com/careers/ou ... index.html
UBS

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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 13 Nov 2010, 13:32
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Does it make sense to have a consortium interview through a specific school if that school is not your first choice?

I interviewed with an alum from a school I didn't wind up applying to. I don't think it matters as long as you can speak intelligently about your own career trajectory and resume. For example if you're interviewing with a Tuck alum that lives in your area but you're not applying there, don't bring it up, and make sure you know at least a few key facts about the program in case it comes up in the interview. Don't lie and say it's your #1 choice, and at the same time don't bring up that you have 0 intention of applying if asked.

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Could you elaborate a little more on this? I'm still having trouble with the mission essay.

The mission of the Consortium for Graduate Study in Management, an alliance of leading American business schools and some of our country’s top corporations, is to enhance diversity in business education and leadership by helping to reduce the serious underrepresentation of African Americans, Hispanic Americans and Native Americans in both our member schools’ enrollments and the ranks of management.

What exactly are they looking for? I do lots of work with minorities and the underprivileged but they aren't exactly going to join the ranks of management. Many don't even have a high school diploma.


It's all about how you frame it. Maybe the people you directly help will not rise to the ranks of management, but what's to say that their kids don't? Or their relatives? Or their friends?



regarding my mission question: yes, that make sense. great advice.

regarding the interview: I think we have the option of interviewing with a member school. Should that only be done if we want to attend that school? Does that serve as the consortium interview as well? I believe school-specific interviews can be done with an admissions committee member.
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 13 Nov 2010, 13:46
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Does it make sense to have a consortium interview through a specific school if that school is not your first choice?

I interviewed with an alum from a school I didn't wind up applying to. I don't think it matters as long as you can speak intelligently about your own career trajectory and resume. For example if you're interviewing with a Tuck alum that lives in your area but you're not applying there, don't bring it up, and make sure you know at least a few key facts about the program in case it comes up in the interview. Don't lie and say it's your #1 choice, and at the same time don't bring up that you have 0 intention of applying if asked.

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Could you elaborate a little more on this? I'm still having trouble with the mission essay.

The mission of the Consortium for Graduate Study in Management, an alliance of leading American business schools and some of our country’s top corporations, is to enhance diversity in business education and leadership by helping to reduce the serious underrepresentation of African Americans, Hispanic Americans and Native Americans in both our member schools’ enrollments and the ranks of management.

What exactly are they looking for? I do lots of work with minorities and the underprivileged but they aren't exactly going to join the ranks of management. Many don't even have a high school diploma.


It's all about how you frame it. Maybe the people you directly help will not rise to the ranks of management, but what's to say that their kids don't? Or their relatives? Or their friends?



regarding my mission question: yes, that make sense. great advice.

regarding the interview: I think we have the option of interviewing with a member school. Should that only be done if we want to attend that school? Does that serve as the consortium interview as well? I believe school-specific interviews can be done with an admissions committee member.


sorry, I misread your original question. I'm not sure if scheduling the school specific interview at the school will knock out both at the same time. I would just schedule the interview using whatever method is the most convenient for you (i.e. if the alum lives 5 mins from your house vs going an hour to the school).

The other upside of scheduling the alum interview instead of doing it at the school is that you essentially get a freebie. The alum isn't out to ding you or to give you any possible questions that might trip you up. They will essentially just stick to the script and ask you about your resume, etc. That way, if you don't have a strong grasp of your "story" yet, you can use it as a first pass and solicit feedback from your interviewer.
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 15 Nov 2010, 02:34
Just submitted my app. Applied to three Consortium member schools.

Time to wait and see where the dice fall...

Edit:

For the current consortium folks here: Are you on a fellowship? I see nefertiti is, what about the others?

My consortium interviewer was a fellow from Darden (class of '07).
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 15 Nov 2010, 10:36
With regards to whether schools see the rankings -

I was an attendee at Tuck's Diversity Conference this past weekend as well, and I spoke with Dawna Clarke, the Director of Admissions, specifically on this issue. She stated that the schools do receive the rankings, but that there is a strong directive from CGSM not to look at them as part of the admissions process - only as part of the financial aid process.

That being said, she did not state that Tuck does not look at them. She did state that Tuck does not take them into consideration as part of admissions (which seems to me an admissions that they look at them, and my thought it while they try to be objective, it will subconsciously affect their decision making process).
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 15 Nov 2010, 17:45
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shadowsjc wrote:
The following is a list of events / initiatives that Consortium applicants may be interested in. This is by no means an all inclusive list, so always keep your eyes open for similar opportunities that may arise:

General

Forte foundation - for women leaders in business; provide mentoring and fellowship opportunities
http://www.fortefoundation.org/site/PageServer

Robert Toigo foundation - for URM applicants; provide mentoring and fellowship opportunities
http://connected.toigofoundation.org/site/PageServer

Management Leadership for Tomorrow - for URM applicants; ongoing program that helps refine the core skills needed for a successful career in business. should apply ASAP if interested
http://www.ml4t.org/

MBA Jumpstart - summer conference for people interested in switching careers into Consulting or Investment banking; offers networking opportunities and career panels; similar to the Consortium OP in that people walked away with the conference in excellent positions to get internship offers before school even started. Apply in the spring
http://mbajumpstart.org/forums.php

Consulting

Deloitte Consulting Immersion Program - new pre-mba program that started last year; offers students a highly competitive pre-MBA internship at Deloitte; Deloitte also hosts a networking conference the summer before school. Apply in the spring
http://careers.deloitte.com/united-stat ... ntID=16293


Investment Banking

Pretty much all the large banks have diversity initiatives that include pre-MBA camps and events the summer before school starts. These are essentially a must if you intend to work in the field, especially if you have no prior finance experience. The applications for these don't usually start until the spring, but make sure to keep them on your radar. They are generally competitive, so make sure you get your app in early (apply in the spring)

JP Morgan Early Advantage - http://careers.jpmorgan.com/student/jpm ... ge/program
Morgan Stanley Early Insight -
Goldman Sachs Pre MBA Camp - http://www2.goldmansachs.com/careers/ou ... index.html
UBS

Applicants should familiarize themselves with these and apply if possible. I can speak further to the investment banking programs, so if you have any questions feel free to post back or send me a PM.


Marketing/Brand Management

P&G Marketing Summer Camp - AMAZING opportunity for anyone interested in marketing and/or brand management. It's a one-week program over the summer where you get to know marketing through the lens of the best CPG company in the world. The week is capped with internship interviews for the following summer. It's not exclusively for diversity candidates but it is heavily tailored towards a diverse audience (beyond just URM). Feel free to PM me if you have specific questions.
http://www.jobs-pg.com/cincinnati/marke ... orary-jobs

Other camps - Other companies might have similar camps that I'm aware of that you can apply directly to (I think PepsiCo/Frito-Lay). Many have camps or sell/interview days out of Consortium or the Diversity conferences (Target, General Mills, Miller-Coors, Kraft, J&J, etc) usually after 1st round interviews or after an offer is extended. Consortium OP is incredible for marketing internship opportunities. You can set foot on campus with several offers in hand before your first class.

If you're interested in Marketing and/or Brand Management, it's good to start prospecting what types of companies you may be interested in. I'm not kidding, as soon as you accept your offer if you attend a Consortium school, you need to start resume and interview prep immediately. The time goes by REALLY fast.

I'm happy to answer questions in the Marketing realm for those beginning their research. Just PM me.



nice post. I'm 100% sure I'm going to go into marketing, so I'm going to bug you in the coming months with marketing question.
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 15 Nov 2010, 21:24
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With regards to whether schools see the rankings -

I was an attendee at Tuck's Diversity Conference this past weekend as well, and I spoke with Dawna Clarke, the Director of Admissions, specifically on this issue. She stated that the schools do receive the rankings, but that there is a strong directive from CGSM not to look at them as part of the admissions process - only as part of the financial aid process.

That being said, she did not state that Tuck does not look at them. She did state that Tuck does not take them into consideration as part of admissions (which seems to me an admissions that they look at them, and my thought it while they try to be objective, it will subconsciously affect their decision making process).



That's good to hear...considering I ranked Tuck as No. 1. Michigan said they black out the rankings, so I didn't mind ranking them a bit lower.
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Re: Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Nov 2010, 09:13
Unless specifically stated otherwise (like Ross), I would assume that all CGSM schools look at rankings and at least partially use them in their admissions decisions. A few pages back in this thread, somebody mentioned that while they were having their additional NYU interview, the adcom specifically asked why he ranked them #2.

As far as CGSM interviews, I decided to make the effort to interview at my number 1 choice school even though the CGSM says it doesn't matter who you interview with and it will have no influence on admissions decisions. I figured showing that extra bit of effort could only be a good thing.
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