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Thank you for that information though I still have more questions.

Is there any admissions advantage of applying through the consortium? I guess my questions is whether someone applying through the consortium with the absolute same credentials as someone applying without it will have a greater or lesser chance of admittance? Or is it basically the same? Do schools have a max limit of how many students they admit via the consortium?

If the admissions chance is greater, what keeps everyone else from applying via the consortium, even if they don't have the proper credentials of being admitted to the consortium after being admitted to their school of choice?

I apologize for all of these questions but I don't quite understand the whole consortium process yet.

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I don't think the point of the Consortium is to give students an admissions advantage. What it does is increase access to the top business schools by lowering barriers such as application and tuition costs. Plus it gives UR minority students more resources to succeed not only in school but also in the job market.
Consortium applicants aren't separate from non Consortium applicants in terms of admissions decisions. Once you apply through the consortium you are judged against all other applicants with a similar profile, not just Consortium applicants.
A lot of people don't apply through the Consortium because they don't know about it. However, once people are made aware that the Consortium exists most opt to apply to a few schools because of the financial benefits (lower app fees and the chance at a full tuition fellowship). Schools do have a limited number of fellowships that they can offer. However, admission isn't dependent upon the award. Most admitted candidates are also accepted into the Consortium with a smaller percentage actually awarded the fellowship. I hope that helps demystify things a bit.
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I actually planned on it, but due to a conflict, was unable to. Would love to hear anyone's thoughts on the MBA tour event.


Highlights of MBA Tour Conference in NYC on July 23
[*] A lot of schools represented across tiers and regions. There were even international schools like INSEAD in attendance.
[*] Strong representation from Consortium schools - Ross, Johnson, Tepper, Yale SOM, Stern, Simon, UCLA,etc.
[*] Went to individual school presentations for NYU Stern, Cornell Johnson, and Yale SOM. Consortium was discussed to varying degrees at all sessions
[*] 2 hour MBA Fair was packed. The Stanford table had a crowd until the very end. Some schools (Booth, Columbia) didn't send admissions representatives, but instead used 2nd year MBA students alone. Personally, I didn't think this was very helpful because students only seemed to have knowledge about their own concentrations and interest areas. It would have been nice to have someone from admissions there to answer questions about the application process and the program in general.

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[*] Cornell's presentation was by far the best of the day! Everyone who went to that session agreed. The associate admissions director, Christine, was energetic, knowledgeable, and most importantly warm and inviting. She was also truthful. When I asked her about ranking schools for Consortium applicants she was very honest in saying that they mattered....A LOT! Oh and if anyone is interested in sales and trading, there's actually a trading floor at the Johnson school! I thought that was pretty cool.
[*] The breadth of schools meant that there was something for everyone. Also, meeting the adcoms and students was a really good way to gauge that indefinable thing they call "fit." After speaking with some schools I knew immediately that the fit was NOT there.

The WTF
[*] During one school's info session applying through the Consortium was highlighted. After the adcom gave some brief details about the Consortium (who, what, how, etc?) someone raised their hand and asked, "So are Consortium applications not considered as highly since it's a common application?" The gasps, sighs, and snickers were audible. I had to make a concerted effort to fix my face as did every other minority around me.

[*] It was very obvious that many people have no clue what business school is about and how this process works. Some folks have a very strange interpretation of what business attire means. People showed up in jeans, shorts, flip flops and other egregious attire. I saw one girl in a romper, another with spaghetti straps, and one in what might have been her quincinera dress paired with a cardigan.

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As far as I know, when you apply through the Consortium you eliminate your chances of getting any of the merit scholarships that the schools may offer. For instance, I was admitted to Emory last year, but did not get the CGSM Fellowship, which is hard to get. The schools hold your application until March and by that time all the basic scholarships have already been used up and you decrease chances of getting any of them. So it is pretty much all or nothing with the CGSM. That is something that has made me rethink if I will apply through it.

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Hi guys, not a lot Darden, Ross, or CMU talk on here, mostly NYU, Cornell, and Haas. Just wondering if the location draws people away from it. These three are all top 10-20 schools. Anyway, I'm an 5.5 year Army officer, born abroad, and applying through the consortium with UVA as my first choice. Wondering if anyone else is on the same boat? Anyway, Rd. 1 is approaching....writing essays for six schools......sucks! good luck to you all.


I'm in for Ross, Cornell, and Haas. This year's thread is definitely much quieter than last year's. Is everyone on the thread shooting for the Nov. 15 deadline? Where is everyone in the process. At the last few diversity weekends I attended a lot of the prospective students were still working on the gmat.
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Hi guys, not a lot Darden, Ross, or CMU talk on here, mostly NYU, Cornell, and Haas. Just wondering if the location draws people away from it. These three are all top 10-20 schools. Anyway, I'm an 5.5 year Army officer, born abroad, and applying through the consortium with UVA as my first choice. Wondering if anyone else is on the same boat? Anyway, Rd. 1 is approaching....writing essays for six schools......sucks! good luck to you all.


Well, since you mentioned CMU, I was at their diversity weekend this past weekend. Suuuuuper quant-heavy school, which can be either a good or a bad thing depending on how you look at it. Very friendly adcoms and faculty. The most brutal thing about the place for me was location (being from So Cal).

As far as this thread being quite, it will probably pick up once everyone submits their applications. I too, was surprised by the number of people at the Diversity Weekends who are applying this year and were still in the GMAT phase.

Anywho, I'll be applying to the programs to the left within a day or so for Consortium Rd.1. Just putting the finishing touches on my Tepper essay and then I'm good to go.

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It is really quiet on here in comparison to last year. I would've expected much more activity around now. But most of the thread's (except CBS) have been slow. I wonder if it has much to do with the overall decrease in applications this year. It also seems that a lot of people are either in or just taking the GMAT and almost everyone I spoke to at Discover Stern was aiming for round 2. As for myself I'm looking at round 1, I'm done all of my core essays as well as NYU and Cornell. Im writing drafts from Emory, USC, and UCLA right now and want to have them done by the Friday before the deadline.

Question for all: How many Consortium schools are people applying to? I'm looking at 5, but in speaking with a lot of people they said they wouldn't do any more than 4 as schools ranked 5 and 6 would hold that against you during admissions to protect their yield? Has anyone else heard this or have any thoughts on it?

And how was JMB at Cornell for all who went?

@mixedin86: are you still looking at Stern, I remember you applying to discover stern a while back
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Does anyone know what the Mission Recommender questions are?


Word on the streets...

1. How long have you known the applicant, and in what capacity?

2. The mission of The Consortium is to enhance diversity in business education and leadership by helping the serious underrepresentation of African American, Hispanic Americans and Native Americans in both our member schools’ enrollments and the ranks of management.

What has the candidate done pre-MBA in their business, personal or academic life to demonstrate commitment to reducing the serious underrepresentation of African American, Hispanic American or Native Americans in business school enrollment or the ranks of management? What potential does the candidate demonstrate for assisting The Consortium in pursuing its mission post-MBA?

3. Is there any additional information you would like to provide about this applicant?

that's just word on the streets though...
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Should somebody bother applying to the Consortium if they are a Southern Asian? Think Indonesia, Brunei, Malaysia, there is no doubt in my mind that we are underrepresented but due to people clumping all Asians into one group, it does not appear so.


I was at a Consortium event in NYC in September and saw a good number of Asian candidates in attendance. My assumption is that they are of the nationalities that you listed. Applying through the consortium is less about claiming an ethnicity and more about demonstrating a commitment to the consortium's mission. A person can be black or Latino or Native American and still not be an appropriate Consortium candidate.
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If someone gets rejected through the consortium, do they still have a chance of getting in through regular decision somehow? Or is it really one or the other?


So here's how it works. You apply to the school through the Consortium. When they review your app it's like any other person's app. Membership in the Consortium is 100% dependent upon admittance to a member school. If you apply to 6 member schools and none of them admit you, then the Consortium process ends there for you. So the Consortium doesn't reject people from a school, the school does that themselves. Once you don't get in, then you're done for this application year. You can't reapply through the school's application.

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It shouldn't be that hard I wouldn't think to add CGSM 1 and CGSM 2 to the profile school round drop-down list, I don't think? Once there, it should already flow through to the existing roll call data queries. For a brand new, distinct Consortium query, it's just something like this in SQL, if that's what GMATClub is running off of:

select username, gmat, gpa, age, we, industry, function, concentration
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where exists (select * from dbo.applicantschools filter where (filter.round = 'CGSM1' or filter.round = 'CGSM2') and filter.username = base.username)

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In other news, I got my interview invite from Tepper this morning.


Woohoo! :-D
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[quote/]I, for one, will not be withdrawing any applications early unless I recieve a full-ride fellowship from my #1 program. Funding is the most important factor for me at this point so I have to see how much, if anything, the programs will offer.

In other news, I got my interview invite from Tepper this morning. It sure will be good to have a decision from somewhere before 2012, unless that decision is a waitlist. :roll:[/quote]

Congrats on the interview! Great to hear we've got a steady flow of invites coming in. For me, I'm trying to balance my decision between funding and the experience. Personally, I would not trade 25k for a rich memorable experience with my classmates.

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Also sumbitted 11/15, interview invitation from Darden on 11/21. Still haven't received any communication whatsoever from any other consortium schools.
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Just got word from Haas that they received my app. Still waiting on Tuck and Cornell.


Also heard from Haas today (and got a login). Only still waiting on Anderson. The non-consortium specific email noted the March 1st decision deadline, and said that interview invites start in December. Do you think CGSM round 2 are pooled in with us? I'm always hoping that by applying in round 1 I'm in the small group of CGSM round 1 applicants and get extra attention!

On another note, when logged in to Haas' website you can see your application (at least parts) and it shows your schools in ranked order, so they definitely know. I think this is how all schools get it. I've heard Ross say that they specifically ignore rankings and Darden said they "mostly" ignore them. Anyone know about Haas?
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Just got word from Haas that they received my app. Still waiting on Tuck and Cornell.


Copy that, got word Haas recieved my application today. Also, got an interview invite from Kelley. Still waiting to hear anything from Johnson, Marshall, & Texas.
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I'm still in Charlottesville as I post this and wanted to let everyone know I had an absolutely wonderful time since I've been here. Darden has arguably the most beautiful campus of any of the schools I've visited.

I arrived at 1pm and I was greeted by a few people who knew my name before I introduced myself! I got a packet full of information and one of the adcom assistants took me to the faculty bldg. and I spoke with a professor for an hour...

My interview was at 3pm and the adcom got me from the waiting area a few minutes early. It was totally blind; she had not seen my resume. I gave her a copy anyways. We chatted for almost an hour... Purely conversational with a few behavioral questions. It was comfortable and warming.

After my interview I got a Darden campus tour from a second year and then a first year met me to chat. I walked away feeling very excited with the prospect of going to Darden. I'm kicking myself for not visiting earlier.

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Good luck to all of you that have your Darden interviews today! Please share your experience with the rest of the gmatclub & Consortium community.


I had a great experience visiting Darden on Monday. I stayed at the Inn at Darden Sunday night (executive education housing/hotel). On Monday I visited an 8AM class, Darden grounds tour (they call campus grounds), session with the head of career management and lunch with professors/current students. The last thing I did was my interview, which was consistent with others description. It was an hour long, and based on one question - tell me your story - with discussion and follow up questions. I really enjoyed the interview and my interviewer shared a lot of personal stories and experiences during the interview, which helped make it very conversational. I think this is pretty typical, but I did hear a few people say that they were expected to do more of a monologue, so go ahead and prepare a monologue but hope for more of a conversation.

The reputation for academic rigor appears to be true, but as one professor put it during lunch, its not that you are doing more difficult work than you would at any other top business school, its that you are expected to put in the work every day for two years.

I'm guessing there are other Darden R1 Consortium applicants still waiting to hear for invites, but does anyone else have one scheduled that hasn't done it yet?
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Just got my Cornell interview invite, they're my 2nd choice, super excited!! Now i gotta figure out a way up to Ithaca in 2 weeks
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Just got my Cornell interview invite, they're my 2nd choice, super excited!! Now i gotta figure out a way up to Ithaca in 2 weeks


Congrats sir! I had to opt for a phone interview, no way I could make it out to Ithaca by the end of the year. Hopefully that doesn't hurt me too bad in their decision making. Today after work I'm meeting up with my Auntie's friend who is a Johnson MBA Alum and did admissions interviews for years after she graduated, so if she has any unique insider information relating to the interview i'll let you know.
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