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25 Jul 2011, 06:11
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I actually planned on it, but due to a conflict, was unable to. Would love to hear anyone's thoughts on the MBA tour event.

Highlights of MBA Tour Conference in NYC on July 23
[*] A lot of schools represented across tiers and regions. There were even international schools like INSEAD in attendance.
[*] Strong representation from Consortium schools - Ross, Johnson, Tepper, Yale SOM, Stern, Simon, UCLA,etc.
[*] Went to individual school presentations for NYU Stern, Cornell Johnson, and Yale SOM. Consortium was discussed to varying degrees at all sessions
[*] 2 hour MBA Fair was packed. The Stanford table had a crowd until the very end. Some schools (Booth, Columbia) didn't send admissions representatives, but instead used 2nd year MBA students alone. Personally, I didn't think this was very helpful because students only seemed to have knowledge about their own concentrations and interest areas. It would have been nice to have someone from admissions there to answer questions about the application process and the program in general.

The Good
[*] Cornell's presentation was by far the best of the day! Everyone who went to that session agreed. The associate admissions director, Christine, was energetic, knowledgeable, and most importantly warm and inviting. She was also truthful. When I asked her about ranking schools for Consortium applicants she was very honest in saying that they mattered....A LOT! Oh and if anyone is interested in sales and trading, there's actually a trading floor at the Johnson school! I thought that was pretty cool.
[*] The breadth of schools meant that there was something for everyone. Also, meeting the adcoms and students was a really good way to gauge that indefinable thing they call "fit." After speaking with some schools I knew immediately that the fit was NOT there.

The WTF
[*] During one school's info session applying through the Consortium was highlighted. After the adcom gave some brief details about the Consortium (who, what, how, etc?) someone raised their hand and asked, "So are Consortium applications not considered as highly since it's a common application?" The gasps, sighs, and snickers were audible. I had to make a concerted effort to fix my face as did every other minority around me.

[*] It was very obvious that many people have no clue what business school is about and how this process works. Some folks have a very strange interpretation of what business attire means. People showed up in jeans, shorts, flip flops and other egregious attire. I saw one girl in a romper, another with spaghetti straps, and one in what might have been her quincinera dress paired with a cardigan.

And that is my recap of MBA Tour NYC!
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25 Jul 2011, 17:47
cheetarah1980 wrote:
I actually planned on it, but due to a conflict, was unable to. Would love to hear anyone's thoughts on the MBA tour event.

Highlights of MBA Tour Conference in NYC on July 23
[*] A lot of schools represented across tiers and regions. There were even international schools like INSEAD in attendance.
[*] Strong representation from Consortium schools - Ross, Johnson, Tepper, Yale SOM, Stern, Simon, UCLA,etc.
[*] Went to individual school presentations for NYU Stern, Cornell Johnson, and Yale SOM. Consortium was discussed to varying degrees at all sessions
[*] 2 hour MBA Fair was packed. The Stanford table had a crowd until the very end. Some schools (Booth, Columbia) didn't send admissions representatives, but instead used 2nd year MBA students alone. Personally, I didn't think this was very helpful because students only seemed to have knowledge about their own concentrations and interest areas. It would have been nice to have someone from admissions there to answer questions about the application process and the program in general.

The Good
[*] Cornell's presentation was by far the best of the day! Everyone who went to that session agreed. The associate admissions director, Christine, was energetic, knowledgeable, and most importantly warm and inviting. She was also truthful. When I asked her about ranking schools for Consortium applicants she was very honest in saying that they mattered....A LOT! Oh and if anyone is interested in sales and trading, there's actually a trading floor at the Johnson school! I thought that was pretty cool.
[*] The breadth of schools meant that there was something for everyone. Also, meeting the adcoms and students was a really good way to gauge that indefinable thing they call "fit." After speaking with some schools I knew immediately that the fit was NOT there.

The WTF
[*] During one school's info session applying through the Consortium was highlighted. After the adcom gave some brief details about the Consortium (who, what, how, etc?) someone raised their hand and asked, "So are Consortium applications not considered as highly since it's a common application?" The gasps, sighs, and snickers were audible. I had to make a concerted effort to fix my face as did every other minority around me.

[*] It was very obvious that many people have no clue what business school is about and how this process works. Some folks have a very strange interpretation of what business attire means. People showed up in jeans, shorts, flip flops and other egregious attire. I saw one girl in a romper, another with spaghetti straps, and one in what might have been her quincinera dress paired with a cardigan.

And that is my recap of MBA Tour NYC!

Oh this is awkward... you saw me in my quincinera dress... lol jk.. good stuff. I knew I was missing out on a quality event. Have to keep my ear out for the others as they are announced.
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09 Aug 2011, 13:27
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Hi Everyone,

For those of you who are asking about the rankings, you should also consider the amount of fellowships that schools give out before ranking them on top, if a fellowship is what you are after.

I applied through the Consortium last year and was admitted to Cornell, Yale, and UCLA, and waitlisted at NYU. I received a fellowship from Cornell, where I matriculated.

What I mean by my above statement is this - UCLA did not give out ONE full tuition fellowship last year, and with the recent budget cuts to the UC system, it may be the same this year. When I attended their diversity event, Adcoms said they were committed to giving out at least 8, which turned out to be not true. I ranked UCLA first on my application, followed by Cornell, NYU, and Yale. I ranked Yale last simply because I didn't think my chances of getting admitted were high. When I was notified that Cornell awarded me with the fellowship, I thought that UCLA passed on me (not knowing at the time that they didn't give any out at all). Cornell luckily didn't mind that I ranked them second, however, other schools may care.

My point is if you know that you want a fellowship and you think that your chances of getting into schools X and Y are relatively high, and you know that school Y gives out a small amount of fellowships (or none), while school X has a large Consortium class, you may want to consider ranking school X first.

For those of you wondering whether you should apply in R1 or R2, I would say that it really doesn't matter. Applying in R2 will probably produce a more successful application simply because you put more time into it. Schools have their own Consortium deadlines, so don't pay any attention to their regular deadlines.

I would also say that applying through the Consortium can only backfire for those who are not under-represented minorities but are trying to convey that they are dedicated to the Consortium's mission. Unless you have a very strong case, you may be better off applying through a regular application. UR minorities should definitely apply through the Consortium.

I know what everyone is going through, so feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Good luck everyone!
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15 Aug 2011, 08:42
Does anyone have any idea of when this daggone application will be released. I would like to see the school specific essay questions so I can start brainstorming. I don't want to wait until a month before the R1 deadline to start writing them.
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15 Aug 2011, 09:21
Did anybody else attend the DMAC conference @ UCLA this past Saturday? The CEO of Consortium, Peter Aranda, was the keynote speaker and he gave one hell of a speech.
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16 Aug 2011, 05:44
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Did anybody else attend the DMAC conference @ UCLA this past Saturday? The CEO of Consortium, Peter Aranda, was the keynote speaker and he gave one hell of a speech.

How was this event? I seriously thought about attending but making that trip out to LA wasnt feasible at this time. It looks like you are interested in a lot of the schools I am, how were their presentations, any good info?
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16 Aug 2011, 09:36
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mixedin86 wrote:
Did anybody else attend the DMAC conference @ UCLA this past Saturday? The CEO of Consortium, Peter Aranda, was the keynote speaker and he gave one hell of a speech.

How was this event? I seriously thought about attending but making that trip out to LA wasnt feasible at this time. It looks like you are interested in a lot of the schools I am, how were their presentations, any good info?

In short, the event was awesome. The highlight was when we got to sit at roundtables with admissions officers from different programs. It would be one admissions officer and 7 prospective students and we would rotate to a different program/ admissions officer every 20 minutes or so. I was assigned roundtables for NYU, Cornell, Texas, & Columbia. Of those four I was impressed by the way Cornell and Texas presented their program, was neutral of NYU, and disappointed by Columbia. It may have just been that the more reputable programs didn't feel they needed to "sell" people on there program so they didn't send their best people to the event, but who knows. A buddy of mine who sat at 3 of the 4 same roundtables as me felt the same way. I also heard people talking about how great the USC and Indiana presentations were.

All in all, it was a great event, but I don't think it was worth going to if you weren't within driving distant so you probably made the right choice.
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16 Aug 2011, 14:13
mixedin86 wrote:
johnnyGMAT2k10 wrote:
mixedin86 wrote:
Did anybody else attend the DMAC conference @ UCLA this past Saturday? The CEO of Consortium, Peter Aranda, was the keynote speaker and he gave one hell of a speech.

How was this event? I seriously thought about attending but making that trip out to LA wasnt feasible at this time. It looks like you are interested in a lot of the schools I am, how were their presentations, any good info?

In short, the event was awesome. The highlight was when we got to sit at roundtables with admissions officers from different programs. It would be one admissions officer and 7 prospective students and we would rotate to a different program/ admissions officer every 20 minutes or so. I was assigned roundtables for NYU, Cornell, Texas, & Columbia. Of those four I was impressed by the way Cornell and Texas presented their program, was neutral of NYU, and disappointed by Columbia. It may have just been that the more reputable programs didn't feel they needed to "sell" people on there program so they didn't send their best people to the event, but who knows. A buddy of mine who sat at 3 of the 4 same roundtables as me felt the same way. I also heard people talking about how great the USC and Indiana presentations were.

All in all, it was a great event, but I don't think it was worth going to if you weren't within driving distant so you probably made the right choice.

I had that same feeling about those same schools (x Texas b/c they weren't there) when I went to the MBA Tour event in NYC last month. Cornell's presentation was awesome! It actually put them back on my list. Columbia was represented by two students and I have to admit I was kind of disappointed. I'm hoping that when I visit schools I will be able to get a better sense of them. Hopefully this can help me cut back my school list from 9 to like 6 or 7.
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21 Aug 2011, 16:10
For those of you interested in the Diversity Conference the application is up:

http://mba.tuck.dartmouth.edu/pages/clu ... /info.html
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21 Aug 2011, 16:28
Is there a simple way to find out how many scholarships each school gave out? or should we just contact each school and ask?
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22 Aug 2011, 08:28
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Is there a simple way to find out how many scholarships each school gave out? or should we just contact each school and ask?

I don't know if how many scholarships they gave out last year will be an indication of how many they will award this year. Maybe you should try to find the number of scholarships awarded for the last 3 years. Seeing a trend might give you a better picture.
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25 Aug 2011, 14:34
For anyone interested in interviewing at Tuck slots are now open
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25 Aug 2011, 20:27
I am in for this year. Nervous as all get out but I'm going for it!
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01 Sep 2011, 14:27
Good luck to everyone

On a side note i want to clarify a couple of things. If fellowship is really important to you be careful in your rankings...

Also some schools have really big consortium classes but very few fellowships handed out. If you are in MLT you have much better chances of fellowship awards. The MLT students have better relationships with the schools because of their long process and the continuos contact with the school reps.

If you are an African American woman, i would look at Tuck. However, make sure you really want to go there and you can show them you love the school. They are lacking in minority numbers and would love to see more African American women apply.... Chances are you will get a fellowship from them.....and honestly it’s a great school. The folks there are great and you can’t beat their alumni... because you will need it especially in this economy.

GMAT, GMAT, GMAT, GMAT. Can i say that again? That score matters especially with fellowships.... i know very many people who got denied fellowships because of the friggin test. But they got membership.

As for UCLA, they gave fellowships. I know they gave to students... If you have a strong application and they love you they will give you money.

One thing that i have learnt from this whole process is schools are very different. Some schools are really after overall great students in terms of well-rounded applicant i.e. GREAT GMAT, work experience.... Other schools really want minorities with high GMAT scores for their class profiles....and would sacrifice work experience quality and G.P.A for that... that has been my observations not to mention a couple of others have observed the same thing.

On a last note, there is a rumor that one of the top schools will be joining the consortium.... It may happen this year or next.... If that school joins, the game will definitely change for the other consortium schools. Also the consortium is taking over the interview process and awarding consortium membership as of this year...

Also for those wondering how many fellowships were awarded, class of 2013 323 were awarded.

Good luck everyone.... all the best
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01 Sep 2011, 15:23
Chire, how did you come to know all of this information? Are you a current student or affilliated with the Consortium? In regards to the Consortium fellowship, what would be the range of GMAT scores that would make a potential candidate competitive? What schools would you say give out the most/least amount of fellowships and what do you mean the consortium is handling membersihp now? I know that is a lot to ask, but I was hoping you could go into more depth for those that aren't familiar with the process.
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Chire, how did you come to know all of this information? Are you a current student or affilliated with the Consortium? In regards to the Consortium fellowship, what would be the range of GMAT scores that would make a potential candidate competitive? What schools would you say give out the most/least amount of fellowships and what do you mean the consortium is handling membersihp now? I know that is a lot to ask, but I was hoping you could go into more depth for those that aren't familiar with the process.

I am a current student and yes affiliated with the consortium. I know all this because of a source who works for the consortium.

The GMAT range depends on the school. If you get 700 - sky is the limit. I can only speak to the schools i applied to and got in/denied/waitlisted. Also the schools my fellow MLT alumni are attending.

The consortium membership decisions will be made by the organisation. i.e CGSM. The fellowship/ scholarship decision will be made by the schools still. CGSM will be interviewing candidates as of this year... i take it this will mean more competition. I personally think its for the better for alot of reasons...

I hope this helps
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02 Sep 2011, 09:38
Applications are live, just got the notice.
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02 Sep 2011, 09:51
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Applications are live, just got the notice.

I was just about to come in here and make the announcement...great minds!

I just took a look at the app. This common app really doesn't cut down on the essay writing much at all. Some schools are just tacking the entire essay pool onto the Consortium app. The next two months of my life are going to SUCK!
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02 Sep 2011, 10:00
i just took a look at the application and noticed some of the schools significantly changed their essay questions...

it's going to be a long winter...
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I just took a look at the app. This common app really doesn't cut down on the essay writing much at all. Some schools are just tacking the entire essay pool onto the Consortium app. The next two months of my life are going to SUCK!

I agree, I was anticipating the schools having some variation of the "Why our school?" essay. I thought I was ahead of the game as I'm finishing up the core essays, but looking at these prompts, especially USC and Cornell, it looks like I'll have my hands full right up until the R1 deadline.

Sidebar: Did anyone get an invite for NYUs diversity weekend yet? I signed up as soon as the notice came out but havent heard anything, any idea of when we're supposed to hear back? I need to book flights and make sure i can get the days off from work to go.
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