HBS CLASS ADMITTED THIS YEAR (entering 2011) VS LAST YEAR (entered 2010) FINANCIAL SERVICES BLOODBATH HEADLINES 1. apps DOWN fr. 9524 to 9134 2. PE/VC Down fr. 18pct to 13pct -HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3. Women up 36 to 39 pct 4. Class size up fr. 910 to 918 5. Investment banking and Investment Management DOWN fr. 14 to 12 pct Class of 2013*
http://www.hbs.edu/mba/perspectives/class-statistics/ Admissions Total MBA Enrollment 918 Applications 9,134 % Admitted 12% Yield 90% Class Composition Women 39% US Ethnic Minorities 23% International 34% Average Age 27 Countries represented 68 Undergraduate institutions represented 243 GMAT Score Range 490-790 Median GMAT 730 Citizenship North America 70% �United States 66% Asia/South Pacific 13% Europe 10% Central/South America 4% Africa 2% Oceania 1% Undergraduate Majors Business Administration 20% Engineering/Natural Sciences/Technical Disciplines 36% Humanities/Social Sciences 43% Other 1% Pre-MBA Industry Consulting 21% Consumer Products 6% Financial Services** 12% Healthcare/Biotech 6% High Tech/Communications 9% Manufacturing 14% Military 5% Non-Profit 8% Other Services 5% Venture Capital/Private Equity 13% Unspecified 1%
* As of June 1, 2011 – subject to change
** Includes Investment Banking and Investment Management ==============================
This is still officially “preliminary” until registration in September. Admissions Total MBA Enrollment 910 Applications 9,524 % Admitted 11% Class Composition Women 36% US Ethnic Minorities 23% International 34% Countries represented 73 Undergraduate institutions represented 243 GMAT Score Range 510-790 Middle 50% GMAT Score Range 710-750 Average GMAT 724 Citizenship North America 70% �United States 66% Asia/South Pacific 13% Europe 12% Central/South America 3% Africa 1% Oceania 1% Undergraduate Majors Business 23% Engineering/Natural Sciences/Technical Disciplines 33% Humanities/Social Sciences 43% Other 1% Pre-MBA Industry Consulting 22% Consumer Products 7% Financial Services* 14% Healthcare/Biotech 6% High Tech/Communications 6% Manufacturing 9% Military 5% Non-Profit 7% Other Services 5% Venture Capital/Private Equity 18%
* Includes Investment Banking & Investment Management
BTW: A GREAT, GREAT RESOURCE FOR ALL HBS APPLICANTS IS LAST YEAR'S THREAD, CALLING ALL HBS 2011 APPLICANTS, calling-all-hbs-2011-applicants-including-96063.html#p739570 ESP THE FIRST POST, WHICH ITSELF GIVES RESOURCES. SPENDING AN HOUR READING THRU THOSE POSTS WILL GIVE YOU AN EXCELLENT IDEA OF WHAT THE YEAR AHEAD WILL LOOK LIKE AND PROVIDE YOU WITH MANY, MANY PROFILES AND THEIR OUTCOMES.
Interview questions:
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"I know typical HBS questions, including questions often asked of investment bankers, private equity, venture capital and hedge fund associates, and questions asked to those employed in non-profits, the military, manufacturing, and technology. I know how to help you formulate your core story in ways which can be applied to many questions. I can predict trouble areas in your application and help you come up with talking points to deal with them. I can sense what your particular needs are in terms of presentation, for example, if you don't get to the point soon enough (a possibly fatal habit) or if you appear too aggressive or too arrogant or confident in the wrong way for often thin-skinned (and just plain thin) HBS interviewers (some of whom are predisposed not to like bankers). I can help you create a back story for your goals which creates a solid platform for Why MBA, Why HBS? I can help you prepare a strong answer to the question "Why should we take you?" This questions is often asked in several forms: "What can YOU contribute to case method discussion based on background and experience?" "How will your classmates remember you?" "How have you grown as a leader?" I can calm you down, although that will not be the first thing that happens. I can help you formulate answers to 'ice-breaker' questions such as: "I already know you from your application, just tell me what you think the three defining moments in your life are?" "Pretend I have not read your application and I just met you. Tell me who you are, what you've done, and where you want to be 15 years?" I can help prepare you to face such recently popular questions as: "What is one thing that is not immediately apparent about you to others?" "How would your friends describe you?" "How has the financial crisis impacted you, your friends, your industry and your goals?"
_________________ AskSandy--the HBS guru http://hbsguru.com app + essay advice, free profile evaluation GREAT HBS MOCK INTERVIEW service.
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Sanford Kreisberg is the founder of hbsguru.com, a business school admissions consultancy. He has advised scores of Harvard graduates about applying to HBS over the past 10 years . . . .
1. Try to have a high GPA and do not fall for the canard that the admissions committee is aware of hard courses, and will give you a break. They are aware of A, B, and C. They have no idea if Post-Modern Feminist Approaches to Derivative Trading is a hard course or a gut. Take a lot of guts, and use the extra time to explore extra activities. Do not innocently engage in learning for 'learning sake' --although certainly say you do. Do not take introductory Arabic or Chinese because they sound contemporary and important, especially when most kids in those classes will be native speakers looking for guts. Do not take some super-duper math course because it sounds 'interesting.'
2. Try to have a high GMAT, but HBS is not obsessed with this; they are more concerned with your GPA, and will not get too shook up with a 680 or even a 660 GMAT if they 'otherwise love you' and that can apply to even non-minorities. A 720 GMAT is normative, a 750 won't help you as much as you think, and a jumbo 770+ is a nice touch, especially if a keystone of your application is that you are smart or quanty.
3. Be strategic about extracurriculars: try to be a leader.Try to find an issue where you can lead based on interests or identity politics. Think about Miss America, where each finalist has some 'signature' issue like overcoming learning disabilities or improving inner-city education. Get a signature issue of your own. Leading a club based on your ethnicity, personal concerns, diseases, or political ideas is good. Try to be innovative and expand the organizations programs and membership.
4. Be a work in progress.HBS is obsessed with 'transforming' its students, so the persona you should present in your application is someone who is both focused and accomplished, yet open to change. You don't need to be overly interested in business per se; rather, you need to be interested in the intersection of your personal passion, signature issue, or academic interest with the potential social impact. Thus, if you have a passion for biology, you would do better presenting yourself as someone interested in how biology can cure disease among groups a, b, or c, rather than someone obsessed with Biotech companies and their relative stock values. HBS will "transform" you into the latter.
5. For the 2+2 program, which is new, it is better to pretend to be 'out of it' about business
than someone who has been obsessed with business ever since your grandfather gave you 100 shares of General Electric for your 10th birthday. HBS is looking for science and artsy kids who otherwise, without HBS's wonderful 2+2 program, never would have thought about business, and would have gone to (gasp) law school. So, be a techie who was happy being a nerd until, poof, 2+2 came along, and then you discovered you could be a business nerd. Think transformation.
6. In your essays, show what makes you tick; the essays are not brag sheets. Don't list what you did so much as account for how you were effective getting others, like professors and other students, to help you. Think Tom Sawyer. Get the others to help you paint the fence. Don't brag about raising money for charity, but explain how you convinced 20 other kids to help you raise money for charity.
_________________ AskSandy--the HBS guru http://hbsguru.com app + essay advice, free profile evaluation GREAT HBS MOCK INTERVIEW service.
rpsingh
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you have been shaping the way i have written my essays with your advice
pyarapopat
Re: Calling all HBS 2012 Applicants (including 2+2) [#permalink]
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:36 am
Manager
Status: On my way !!! Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2011 Posts: 87 Location: France
Concentration: Operations, Strategy Schools:Kellogg, Ross GPA: 3.1 WE: Manufacturing and Production (Energy and Utilities) Followers: 2
I am thinking of putting in HBS as one of my stretch schools ... but it might be too much of a stretch ... hopefully this forum would thow up some information which will make the decision easier for me.
I am thinking of putting in HBS as one of my stretch schools ... but it might be too much of a stretch ... hopefully this forum would thow up some information which will make the decision easier for me.
YES IT WILL. FOR OPENERS JUST TELL US YOUR STATS, AGE, WORK HISTORY AND EXTRAS, AND FOLKS ON THIS FORUM WILL OFTEN TELL YOU IF THEY THINK YOU HAVE A CHANCE.
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jay4den
Re: Calling all HBS 2012 Applicants (including 2+2) [#permalink]
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:44 pm
Intern
Status: 2013 Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 Posts: 2 Schools:HBS Followers: 0
I'm a newbie here and want to start by seeking your opinion on what my chances for HBS are.
GPA 4.0/4.0 (small private college here in US...) Major (CS) WE (IT with two major investment banks...3.5 years combined) GMAT (TBD...Sept 2011) GRE (1420 Q 730/V 690) Concentration (Entrepreneurship, PE/VC with high interest in emerging markets) Extracurricular (Mainly working with special needs kids consistently all through college , nothing much since then as work doesn't leave much time) Age 29.... I know , work-experience and age "don't match"...had a hiatus in college education due to personal/family issues
rpsingh
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[quote="jay4den Age 29.... I know , work-experience and age "don't match"...had a hiatus in college education due to personal/family issues [/quote]
dunno, not looking like an HBS admit, age is one drawback and lack of prestige jobs another, and nothing drving you in. The hiatus is not helping and altho one wished it could be turned into a positive, that is prob. not the case here, in the cold light of adcom decision making, vs. the warm glow of adcom road shows.
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jay4den
Re: Calling all HBS 2012 Applicants (including 2+2) [#permalink]
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:37 pm
Intern
Status: 2013 Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 Posts: 2 Schools:HBS Followers: 0
Thanks Sandy...but can you shed more light on " lack of prestige jobs another, and nothing drving you in" ? Per prestige jobs , do you mean job as a function of age ? and I don't get the "nothing drving you in part".
I really appreciate your candid views
hbsguru
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:15 pm
Admissions Consultant
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 Posts: 497 Location: Cambridge MA Followers: 46
Question for Quanty Types --what is HBS average gmat for class entering in Sept 2011???
for the HBS class entering in 2010 (last year) Dee Leopold, the adcom head (aka her royal highness) said on her blog the following
GMAT Score Range 510-790 Middle 50% GMAT Score Range 710-750 Average GMAT 724
for class entering in 2011, e.g THIS SEPT, her majesty reported on her blog the following:
GMAT Score Range 490-790 Median GMAT 730
Based on what you know intuitively about gmat distributions, and using the data above in any way, and adding to the mix some good guess work, what do you think the average gmat score is for the class entering in 2011, the one which has a median score of 730?? Do you think it is higher or lower than 724 and why?
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blg529
Re: Calling all HBS 2012 Applicants (including 2+2) [#permalink]
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:12 pm
Manager
Affiliations: Phi Beta Kappa, Kappa Delta Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 Posts: 65 Location: United States (CA)
Concentration: Marketing, General Management Schools:Stanford, Kellogg, Haas, Anderson GMAT 1: 770 Q49 V47
GPA: 3.9 WE: Other (Venture Capital) Followers: 2
Considering applying...probably R2 so my application has improved by then...
GPA: 3.9 undergrad (econ/psych), 3.9+ grad (MA in social and quantitative psychology) GMAT: 770 WE: 3 years at matriculation (venture capital) Post-MBA plans: brand management Female
Kinda sad VC is down. Though it's not clear from these numbers if acceptance rates among venture capital applicants are down or if applications from vc's were down (the industry has really contracted in the last few years).
sandfrog
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:13 pm
Intern
Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 Posts: 20
Concentration: General Management, International Business Schools:HBS, Kellogg GMAT 1: 710 Q47 V40
GPA: 3.85 Followers: 1
Re: Calling all HBS 2012 Applicants (including 2+2) [#permalink]
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:52 am
Manager
Joined: Sat Dec 12, 2009 Posts: 116 Location: United States (AL)
Concentration: Finance Schools:Harvard Business School (HBS) - Class of 2014 GMAT 1: 770 Q50 V46
GPA: 3.91 WE: Corporate Finance (Venture Capital) Followers: 8
blg529 - I have similar stats as you. Yes VC is down but I think there's a lot from the job that you can draw from / reflect. I'm applying R1. Profile below:
I still have to take my GMAT so I'll know afterwards if I can even dream of HBS as a stretch school, but I would certainly love to give it a try. Good luck to everyone!
formerlyknownas
Re: Calling all HBS 2012 Applicants (including 2+2) [#permalink]
You didn't point out that of those 7 percentage points off finance, 5 percentage points went to manufacturing.
I also spy a subtle increase in representation from Africa and Central/South America and a decrease for Europe. Folks from emerging markets were more popular.
hbsguru wrote:
HBS CLASS ADMITTED THIS YEAR (entering 2011) VS LAST YEAR (entered 2010) FINANCIAL SERVICES BLOODBATH HEADLINES 1. apps DOWN fr. 9524 to 9134 2. PE/VC Down fr. 18pct to 13pct -HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3. Women up 36 to 39 pct 4. Class size up fr. 910 to 918 5. Investment banking and Investment Management DOWN fr. 14 to 12 pct Class of 2013*
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