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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 10:24
My understanding is that in recommendations, the schools only care about the 'content', not the 'form'. They are quite forgiving with typos et al. So I think you don't need to worry about it.

ps. At least you get to see the reco. I haven't even seen mine :(
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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 10:28
mNeo wrote:
My understanding is that in recommendations, the schools only care about the 'content', not the 'form'. They are quite forgiving with typos et al. So I think you don't need to worry about it.


Gosh, I hope you are right. One of my recommenders is a great guy, and will write a very strong recommendation for me, but his writing is often flawed.
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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 10:29
This is the only one I've seen, and it looks like he used most of the content from the packet I sent him...and some from my essays.

Oh well, I'm just happy he is so supportive and has submitted. I was afraid he'd miss the deadline since time management is his biggest weakness. This guy is always swamped!

It took me two weeks to get 15 minutes with him...and I'm his direct report!!

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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 10:30
What about typos in essays? No matter how much I review, I am sure there will always be 1 or 2 typos in the app somewhere. Will those mean an automatic ding?
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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 10:31
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What about typos in essays? No matter how much I review, I am sure there will always be 1 or 2 typos in the app somewhere. Will those mean an automatic ding?


A Columbia admit sent me his career essay from last year. There were a few typos and grammatical errors in there...
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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 10:39
Typos in essays are a little tricky. But my take is that as long as the typos/grammatical errors don't break the flow and/or make the adcom go, "Whaaaaat?", you shouldn't get a ding just because of them.

Typos and grammatical errors can still leave a bad taste in the reader's mouth. So, be very careful about them (As if you didn't know that already).
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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 12:55
My recommenders have written some great letters for me, but their writing style/grammar ain't so good. My friend spent roughly 5 hours (while watching TV) so far over the past weekend editing, while trying to keep their "tone/content". It's been stressful...

(edited to be more clear, take out exaggerations, and avoid misunderstandings and accusations)

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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 13:19
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What about typos in essays? No matter how much I review, I am sure there will always be 1 or 2 typos in the app somewhere. Will those mean an automatic ding?


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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 16:29
Well in my I got my interview assignment. Its actually in my home town so I wont have to travel to get there. Its impressive that they have a guy in my little seaside city of 20K people there happens to be a grad. I googled him and he happens to be the founder of a company and had some financial books published.
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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 18:55
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Well in my I got my interview assignment.


Cool! All the best for your interview.
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 [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2007, 20:16
mNeo wrote:
My understanding is that in recommendations, the schools only care about the 'content', not the 'form'. They are quite forgiving with typos et al. So I think you don't need to worry about it.

ps. At least you get to see the reco. I haven't even seen mine :(


One of my recos wrote a letter and then answered the questions briefly and pointed to the letter to highlight the characteristics in detail. I think schools are pretty forgiving when it comes to LORs.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2007, 04:18
Everyone on track for the R-1 deadline?
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2007, 06:20
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Everyone on track for the R-1 deadline?

Finished with essays, waiting for recommendations. Are there any examples of how recommendations could be written in school forms and not in form of the regular letter?
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2007, 06:42
I should be done by the middle of the week...hopefully. They are close I just need to go over them with a fine tooth comb to really make sure all the spelling and grammar are right.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2007, 09:16
I should be done by mid week as well.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2007, 09:18
kryzak wrote:
My recommenders have written some great letters for me, but their writing style/grammar ain't so good. My friend spent roughly 5 hours (while watching TV) so far over the past weekend editing, while trying to keep their "tone/content". It's been stressful...

(edited to be more clear, take out exaggerations, and avoid misunderstandings and accusations)


You guys are "seeing" and "revising" and "editing" the recs? wouldn't that be considered unethical?

Originally my recommenders offered to let me edit the recs. I asked a few questions about it on Businessweek forums and got completely chewed out. In the end I didn't want to risk it and just asked my recommenders to do it themselves. I would think the adcom can easily smell a "fixed" rec.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2007, 09:48
Writing a draft for your recommender is against many school's honor code. But editing their grammar and sentence structure is not, especially if *I'm* not the one editing it. Unlike the finance/consulting/business world, in engineering companies, recommenders are much worse at writing rec letters and there aren't people readily available to edit the essays for them. You pretty much have to do everything yourself (other than write the letter for them).

As for BW, I wouldn't give them much credence. That forum is messed up. :)
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2007, 10:07
kryzak wrote:
Writing a draft for your recommender is against many school's honor code. But editing their grammar and sentence structure is not, especially if *I'm* not the one editing it. Unlike the finance/consulting/business world, in engineering companies, recommenders are much worse at writing rec letters and there aren't people readily available to edit the essays for them. You pretty much have to do everything yourself (other than write the letter for them).

As for BW, I wouldn't give them much credence. That forum is messed up. :)


Agreed about not writing a draft. However, I do not expect recommenders to actually remember every single example. So I'm actually planning to give them specific instances to jog their memory, that would provide insight to the adcoms on specific characteristics.

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 [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2007, 10:12
Sorry I kind of agree with the thinking that editting a rec is bordering on unethical. I don't think schools are reading those for anything other than content. As long as they can follow it there is no need to really be worried about the grammar and spelling. An adcom actually responded at an event that if your recommender does not speak english that you need to hire a translater to do that for them, you cant do it yourself. I think that editting is much the same.

I gave them enough information for my recs to understand how the process works, my positioning, key stuff that I have done they can talk about. Thats as much hand holding I am willing to do and beyond that is bordering on violating the ethics of the process.

Schools understand an engineer is going to have a rec that is going to be drastically different than a consultant. This is the first grad school rec outside of an PT engineering masters program either of my bosses have written.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2007, 10:21
I am not applying to stanford, but I found this very useful for guidelines on what's acceptable.

http://www.gsb.stanford.edu/mba/admissi ... ences.html
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