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24 Mar 2008, 13:02
sorry to hear about that dosa! Good luck with W!
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24 Mar 2008, 13:04
Dosa, sorry about the ding. I am a bit surprised though..thought a lot of desis are gonna get the WL. Anyway, keep your spirits up for W...

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24 Mar 2008, 13:49
My request for the deadline extension was denied. I don’t want to complain but unlike other schools I applied to, I haven't had a great experience dealing with the adcoms at Kellogg. My questions were not answered and I had to e-mail my official contact person several times to get a reply. In addition, I received different answers to the same question from different adcom people. And on top of that, not granting a 1 week extension is just plain arrogant. To me it says, “we are the best school out there for you, and we don’t care if you have other school to consider. Kellogg is simply superior, so no extension for you!”
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24 Mar 2008, 13:56
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My request for the deadline extension was denied. I don’t want to complain but unlike other schools I applied to, I haven't had a great experience dealing with the adcoms at Kellogg. My questions were not answered and I had to e-mail my official contact person several times to get a reply. In addition, I received different answers to the same question from different adcom people. And on top of that, not granting a 1 week extension is just plain arrogant. To me it says, “we are the best school out there for you, and we don’t care if you have other school to consider. Kellogg is simply superior, so no extension for you!”

Does that mean youre opening a space for someone else?
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24 Mar 2008, 13:57
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My request for the deadline extension was denied...To me it says, “we are the best school out there for you, and we don’t care if you have other school to consider. Kellogg is simply superior, so no extension for you!”

Sorry to hear they didnt grant your extension but maybe they know something you dont yet. They might be onto something with the best school for you thing.
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24 Mar 2008, 15:15
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My request for the deadline extension was denied. I don’t want to complain but unlike other schools I applied to, I haven't had a great experience dealing with the adcoms at Kellogg. My questions were not answered and I had to e-mail my official contact person several times to get a reply. In addition, I received different answers to the same question from different adcom people. And on top of that, not granting a 1 week extension is just plain arrogant. To me it says, “we are the best school out there for you, and we don’t care if you have other school to consider. Kellogg is simply superior, so no extension for you!”

That's surprising, and somewhat arrogant. I'm kind of glad that I applied R2 then, since if I got in R1, I would probably get no extension, and then I would probably reject Kellogg out of principle. When is their R2 commit Deadline?
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24 Mar 2008, 18:22
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That's surprising, and somewhat arrogant. I'm kind of glad that I applied R2 then, since if I got in R1, I would probably get no extension, and then I would probably reject Kellogg out of principle. When is their R2 commit Deadline?

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24 Mar 2008, 20:38
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That's surprising, and somewhat arrogant. I'm kind of glad that I applied R2 then, since if I got in R1, I would probably get no extension, and then I would probably reject Kellogg out of principle. When is their R2 commit Deadline?

I see your point but i disagree to some extent.
A deadline is a deadline. Why bother having a deadline if everyone can be extended? You should be able to request an extenstion but you shouldnt be expecting it, therefore, if you get an extension it should be considered a bonus. I don`t see any arrogance at all. The deadline is clearly listed and when you apply you know what the dates are.
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24 Mar 2008, 21:12
Thank you terry!

Toga, I have to respectfully disagree. I see your point that a deadline is a deadline, but if the deadline is set unrealistically with the assumption that most people would NOT be able to apply to all the schools they're interested in within one round or with the assumption that students can decide which school to go to without attending an admit weekend to get a feel for the atmosphere.

I understand the reasoning for each school to set their "deadline" as early as they can to help them decide future classes, but that "deadline" should be a soft deadline, not a hard one.

It should be, "If you applied only to this school, or if this school is your top choice and you don't need to compare it with other schools you got admitted to make a decision, then respond by this date. Otherwise, we understand that you need to apply to many schools (because the admit decisions are so random), and that you could have many top schools and will need all the information you can gather (i.e. attend admit weekends) to make an informed choice, therefore we will give out extensions on a case-by-case basis."

Kellogg is actually not the worst offender, compared to another UE school which I heard had a March 7th deadline with no extensions. I mean, c'mon, that pretty much means you're not allowed to see what other schools you got into without shelling out $1000. That's what I call "arrogance". _________________ **************************** GMAT Club Knowledge Vault: http://gmatclub.com/forum/123 Haas Ambassador http://gmatclub.com/forum/128-t62555 Kryzak's Profile: http://gmatclub.com/forum/111-t56286 Member Essays: http://gmatclub.com/forum/103-t50969 SVP Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 1559 Location: Ann Arbor Schools: Ross '10 Followers: 14 Kudos [?]: 189 [0], given: 1 Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall'08 applicants [#permalink] ### Show Tags 24 Mar 2008, 21:33 I don't think not extending a published deadline is arrogant. Inconsiderate? yes, but not arrogant. I mean all schools and applicants use several tactics to jockey themselves into the best possible position. Schools manage yield by waitlisting people, create a favourable schedule etc while applicants play 1 school versus another for scholarships, get deadline extensions to see if they get into better schools etc. Its all part of the game. GMAT Club Legend Status: Um... what do you want to know? Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 5464 Location: SF, CA, USA Schools: UC Berkeley Haas School of Business MBA 2010 WE 1: Social Gaming Followers: 72 Kudos [?]: 398 [0], given: 14 Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall'08 applicants [#permalink] ### Show Tags 24 Mar 2008, 21:58 good point NC, I will change my comment to "inconsiderate" then. Arrogant is probably not the word I was looking for. But yes, I totally agree, it's all a game, and the one who plays it the best will come out ahead. _________________ **************************** GMAT Club Knowledge Vault: http://gmatclub.com/forum/123 Haas Ambassador http://gmatclub.com/forum/128-t62555 Kryzak's Profile: http://gmatclub.com/forum/111-t56286 Member Essays: http://gmatclub.com/forum/103-t50969 VP Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 1045 Location: New York, NY Schools: Chicago Booth Class of 2010 Followers: 10 Kudos [?]: 161 [0], given: 3 Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall'08 applicants [#permalink] ### Show Tags 25 Mar 2008, 05:32 I'm sorry to hear that Dosa. Extensions: Sloan granted me an extension - and I didn't even ask for it - while at GSB I sent some questions "indirectly" telling them I wanted some more days to think and they didn't even mentioned that. I friend of mine asked for an extension and got: NO! It's all part of the game, all schools are playing, just like those applicants who have more than one admission are. Business as usual my friends! For those who have scholarship than is even more strict from what I heard. _________________ Rhyme´s guide to interviewing http://www.gmatclub.com/forum/t55030 Kwam's Profile http://gmatclub.com/forum/111-t57360 Current Student Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 327 Followers: 5 Kudos [?]: 23 [0], given: 0 Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall'08 applicants [#permalink] ### Show Tags 25 Mar 2008, 06:44 Yeah, but why not be nice in the first place such as Tuck (April 25th) and Ross (May1st)? If the school went through such a hazzle to pick you and wants you to join the least they could do is give you ONE FRICKING week extension. The only reason not to is to make some dough off your deposit. Intern Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Columbus, OH Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 2 [0], given: 0 Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall'08 applicants [#permalink] ### Show Tags 25 Mar 2008, 07:07 I don't think I would forgo my CBS deposit unless K really came up with some money. I'm finding out so late that I've already been making preliminary arrangements for NYC. That being said, these were the only two schools that I really focused on and it seems like after all of this obsessing I should at least give DAK II a chance. They're offering to cover my travel expenses so I'll see what K has to offer. Also, I am factoring in that CBS is so far offering me 15K more/year than K, so I'm taking it all into account. I'll try and evaluate my final decision based on "fit" (if I can ever figure out what that really means). And as a follow up to a couple of above posts, I was able to turn in my CBS deposit late because I told them that I felt uncomfortable giving a non-refundable deposit without any sort of idea what sort of financial aid I would be receiving. I received a call the next business day with some scholarship money. So it might work in ones favor to try and push the wheel and see if anything comes of it. Nothing lost in my opinion. 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25 Mar 2008, 08:27
Oh yeah I had meant to ask, I know someone had mentioned K paying for travel at DAK, did that include just a flight or accommodations as well?
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25 Mar 2008, 08:38
Oh yeah I had meant to ask, I know someone had mentioned K paying for travel at DAK, did that include just a flight or accommodations as well?

just flight for terry and myself. Up to \$375 I think.
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25 Mar 2008, 11:07
yes..It is for airfare only. I got travel waiver but no scholarship like terry12 and kryzak
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25 Mar 2008, 12:50
I dont know any of us R1 folks who got airfare paid for. However, a bunch of us got money...no where near the half tuition Kry and Terry got but a couple got up to 13k.

Kry and Terry, I was talking to a K alum and mentioned something about the Austin scholarship. He pretty much said that opens tons of doors, a lot of them go on to be very successful and have that little cult thing going. Plus it looks awesome on a resume since almost everyone who recruits at K knows what it is and that only a tiny percent of the class get it. Pretty much screams you are the top of the top.

Oh as for the not granting extensions, I have heard that its common for a lot of schools to not grant them. I asked a few people and they said schools dont like to give them out for a variety of reasons. Ranging from they fear you will play other decisions against them for scholarships or you are using them as a backup all the way to their yield is shaping up to be stronger than they thought so they are forcing your hand since they want to get an idea as fast as possible what the class will look like so they can make decisions on R3, WL, and any remaining R2 folks.
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25 Mar 2008, 12:56
Thanks for the info, River! That's kinda what I had heard from a couple people as well. This won't be an easy decision...
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