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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 23 Jun 2009, 13:42
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How specific should one get in mentioning future career goals? For example, should it be as detailed as saying "I believe the rotational program at XYZ Company will enable me to...." or just broadly mention a role within your preferred industry like "Business development at a utility"

I would recommend being specific. The more details you can provide, the more you look to the adcom like you've really done your homework and thought this whole MBA thing through.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 23 Jun 2009, 16:31
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Thanks, highopes.

Ive got two professional experiences as well. I suppose what I wasnt exactly clear about was what qualifies as a 'leadership area'. For example, can I say that I want to improve my negotiation skills, or that I want to increase my effectiveness in motivating people ?


I took leadership areas to be synonymous with leadership attributes/skills. I think it should tie into your goals a little too. For your example of negotiations, there are clearly industries where that will be more helpful than others.

I think giving feedback, motivating people, conflict management, leading a large team when you've previously managed small teams, visionary types of things (organizational change), better understanding cultural differences, etc are things I can think of that I would've thought of us topics.

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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 25 Jun 2009, 18:20
"Assume you are evaluating your application from the perspective of a student member of the Kellogg Admissions Committee. Why would your peers select you to become a member of the Kellogg community?"

Im wondering how much new information, if any, you can put into this essay. For example, can I expand on some professional accomplishments that I just touched on in a resume, or maybe didnt mention at all ?

What should we assume the 'application' consists of ? Essays and recommendations, or essays, recos and the interview notes ?
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 02:57
Thanks, river. So is it safe then to bring in new information into this essay ? I wouldnt want the adcoms reading it to think that Im not answering the question, because it says to evaluate me based on my application, and I may not have mentioned things like sports etc anywhere in my application at all
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 04:12
Thanks for the tips River!

I'm struggling with that on essay three too. Both accepted.com and clear admit have suggested there shouldn't really be anything new in the essay, but really most of the stuff in your goals essay probably doesn't apply to this question, the way I've drafted my second essay, I would only slightly touch on it in the third essay, which means I feel like I need to bring up new information to get across everything that I want to.

I think I'm going to go with the approach of putting what I want to in essay 3, but making sure it's an expansion on something else that I've at least mentioned somewhere in my app, even if only briefly (or that I'll make a point to mention in the interview).

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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 27 Jun 2009, 05:46
Thanks Steel. That was my interpretation as well, but the advice from the consulting places made me nervous. I guess I'll stick with that tone and throw in a couple of overall app points as they fit.

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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2009, 05:17
Count me in for R2!
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2009, 05:32
so then here is my question to all the K students out there: what qualities would you want in a member of your class ? I agree with river that professional accomplishments is not something that would personally be on my list, but things like open-mindedness, a willingness to step aside and not always lead, helpful, etc would be .... and what would be the best way to demonstrate these 'softer' qualities ?
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 01 Jul 2009, 19:50
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so then here is my question to all the K students out there: what qualities would you want in a member of your class ? I agree with river that professional accomplishments is not something that would personally be on my list, but things like open-mindedness, a willingness to step aside and not always lead, helpful, etc would be .... and what would be the best way to demonstrate these 'softer' qualities ?


I can't speak for other Kellogg students, but I'll tell you what qualities I'd want to see in a member of my class. I'd want to see someone who has a unique perspective on things, who adds interesting insight to classroom discussions and is willing to help me and my classmates out. Since I'm also going to be living and working closely with this person for the next 2 years of my life, I'd also want to see someone who is fun to socialize with - the proverbial "would I want to share a beer with this person at 11pm after a long day of work" test.

To be clear though, I'm not suggesting that your essay talk about your unique perspective, helpfulness and aptitude for late night beer drinking. My 549 classmates may have different attributes they're looking for. Basically, you need to explain why *YOU* are an interesting person, and why your 550 or so classmates will be better off for having known you. If you try to write what you think the adcom wants to hear, or try to match your essay up with what you think are important attributes of a Kellogg student, your essay will seem pretty generic and you'll have a hard time convincing the readers that you are more deserving than another of the 6000 applicants to be admitted.

In short: just be yourself, and use this essay to give a good picture of who you are.

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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 01 Jul 2009, 20:07
Like Jerz said, I'd think about answering the question: What makes you different than the 500 other applicants? Why are you awesome?

A friend of mine described these sorts of essays as being similar to speed dating. He put it as: you have 5 minutes to make an impression, to make yourself stand out and seem appealing. What do you talk about?
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2009, 07:25
Reapplying in R1 unless I get off Darden's waitlist.

Any students or reapplicants know if it is necessary to go to all of the prospective student events? I hope they change how they notify people this year and don't have a few decisions trickle out each day.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Jul 2009, 03:51
I wasn't a reapplicant, but I went to very few prospective student events. I visited Jacobs over the summer when I was in Chicago on business (but didn't sign in so there was no record of it), then did a full visit (visiting class, tour, lunch with students, info session) the day before I interviewed. I don't think Kellogg is very focused on who attends how many events.

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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Jul 2009, 08:46
Jerz wrote:
I wasn't a reapplicant, but I went to very few prospective student events. I visited Jacobs over the summer when I was in Chicago on business (but didn't sign in so there was no record of it), then did a full visit (visiting class, tour, lunch with students, info session) the day before I interviewed. I don't think Kellogg is very focused on who attends how many events.


I agree with Jerz. I couldn't find time to visit Kellogg on a weekday so I ended up visiting on one weekend when I was in Michigan for work and sat in a EMBA class. Never attended regular MBA tour/visit etc before applying.

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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Jul 2009, 16:22
Same boat. I'd been to the Northwestern campus a year or so back, so had an idea of what Evanston was like. I visited Kellogg for the first time after I got in and was deciding between Kellogg/Booth, and thought it would be good to see some classes and such. I didn't attend any prospective student events, and my extent of meeting the student community was reaching to a couple of folks in the HC/Consulting clubs. (I was a horrible K applicant, I know :) )
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Jul 2009, 23:39
I'm definitely in for Round 1, let the games begin...
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2009, 10:07
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Reapplying in R1 unless I get off Darden's waitlist.

Any students or reapplicants know if it is necessary to go to all of the prospective student events? I hope they change how they notify people this year and don't have a few decisions trickle out each day.

Like the others, I didn't go to any information sessions for Kellogg. I went to off-campus info sessions for other schools, but the one for Kellogg didn't fit with my schedule.

What I discovered by attending the ones for other schools was that they are only useful as a one-way information exchange, i.e., for you to gather information about the school, the application and b-school in general. I don't think the schools pay too much attention to whether you've attended these events, and I doubt that attendance affects the admissions process. Some schools didn't even take attendance lists. However, I would strongly recommend going if you haven't gone to one in the past. I found them to be a hugely valuable way to develop an understanding for the school's culture and approach toward evaluating applicants. If you're a reapplicant or already know a lot about the school, then I wouldn't bother.

On a similar note, visiting schools in person is far better than going to off-campus info sessions. I highly recommend doing this if at all possible.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2009, 12:06
Thanks I'll probably go back up to Evanston for a visit in the fall when classes are in session. I do not have much of an excuse since I live in Chicago
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2009, 21:52
Did anyone use the "c) I wish the admissions committee had asked me…… " question to address a GPA? I am on the fence of explaining my GPA, and would err to the side of doing so but I think the "b) People may be surprised to learn that I…. " question can add more to my application.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2009, 05:57
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Did anyone use the "c) I wish the admissions committee had asked me…… " question to address a GPA? I am on the fence of explaining my GPA, and would err to the side of doing so but I think the "b) People may be surprised to learn that I…. " question can add more to my application.

No, you get an additional ('special') essay to address GPA/GMAT/other issues with your application, so don't use any of the main essays for that purpose.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2009, 07:16
i'm in for R1.
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