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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2009, 16:01
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I don't think the new 3rd essay is really all that different than the old 3rd essay. Both are really looking for you to explain how you'll be a valuable and contributing member of the Kellogg community. This just frames it from the perspective of you being on the adcom.


Good, this is how I interpreted it as well.
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When tackling an essay like this, is it wise to focus on one core idea as to why you'll make a great fit at Kellogg, or is to ramble of a number of reasons? To me, I feel like it would be wise in such a short essay to find one really strong core reason that makes you valuable, but i dont know if they're looking for more I'll be active in this and this, i'm strong analytically, i've got motivation for miles, etc. etc.

What do you guys think?


I took a slightly different approach - I talked about 1 theme in this essay last year. I positioned this theme as something I am passionate about, gave a few examples to demonstrate instances where I've gotten involved in this area in the past, then talked about examples of how I would continue to get involved in this area at Kellogg. In terms of proportion, probably about 60% how I'd been involved in the past, 40% what I'd do at Kellogg.

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when talking about themes, any advice on which specific themes to pull out of the arsenal for Kellogg specifically ?


In terms of themes, the most important criteria is that they are authentic to who you are as a person. Writing what you think the adcom wants to hear is a great way to get dinged. That said, Kellogg is very proud of it's student driven and collaborative culture. It probably wouldn't hurt at some point in the application to show that you fit in and thrive in that sort of environment.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2009, 17:26
R1 it is.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2009, 17:39
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In terms of themes, the most important criteria is that they are authentic to who you are as a person. Writing what you think the adcom wants to hear is a great way to get dinged.

Couldn't agree more strongly that authenticity is key. Current and previous students from several schools have hammered this into my head. Rather than spending time overanalyzing what you think adcom wants, I'd spend more time in self-reflection, thinking about why you believe you fit well with the school, why you want an MBA, what you're qualified, the value you'll add to the school, etc. Structure your application so that it's unique to you, not a stencil of what you think a successful application looks like.
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when talking about themes, any advice on which specific themes to pull out of the arsenal for Kellogg specifically ?


Execution is the key here. You have to craft a well written essay that conveys many factors including:

1) Individuality - You have to stand out as an applicant, classmate, future student, professional etc etc. You have to somehow convey your uniqueness while proving that you can be an asset to the program, to fellow classmates, and to your own future.

2) Be positive, even when discussing events in your life with negative tone. Avoid expressing anything extreme.

3) Make sure that you emphasize the value of teamwork, and that you are a team player. A good team player understands that he or she isn't always right. He or she has to contribute what he or she can, but let others contribute as well. Team works the best when everyone can bring something to the table. If one member is weak in one area, another member should be able to make up for that weakness by adding his or her own strength. In the meantime, you can also learn from your teammates and apply what you've learned in the future.

4) When crafting your essay, don't write like a lawyer drafting a legal contract. If you need to adopt a writing style, pick up a newspaper or a magazine (or even web article) and read your favorite columnist. He or she has a specific writing style that captures your attention. Pick up that style of writing and apply to your essays.

5) Be honest with yourself - when evaluating your past accomplishments, future goals, etc etc. Look inside yourself and write your essays honestly. Don't try to be someone else. After all, there's no point of applying to any school if you can't present yourself in your essays the way you are. If you try to be someone that you are not, then the adcom will evaluate your application with someone else's goals/identity/traits etc. Most applicants try to craft themselves as a perfect applicant. There are very few perfect applicants, if any exist at all. Bschools don't want to shape their incoming class with robots with similar backgrounds (or perfect candidates). They want diversity.

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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2009, 18:33
Thanks guys ! I'll miss you all when youre away at school :cry: :-D
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2009, 18:58
Some will stick around which will be a benefit to all the people here. For some reason, I can see Yale increasing in popularity incredibly on here next year.

Officially finished my first year today. Start work on monday.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2009, 21:57
I will definitely stick round. River and the rest of the guys were lifesavers for me during this process. The least I can do is help out the next batch:)
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 12 Jun 2009, 01:56
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Some will stick around which will be a benefit to all the people here. For some reason, I can see Yale increasing in popularity incredibly on here next year.

Officially finished my first year today. Start work on monday.


Congrats riverripper!

I'm planning to stick around next year too, although I probably won't be spending all day in chat anymore...
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 13 Jun 2009, 11:38
Applying in R2.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2009, 08:35
Re-applicant new to this thread here.

I was waitlisted from R2 and got the ding letter last Thursday. Back to to drawing board, but just found out I had to redo all the essays.
I am going take a few days off before I start but have some questions I need help with.

1. Most of the essay questions are identical to last years. (Exception for the Peer evaluation essay). Do I need to
develop new topics for each essay?

2. Does anyone know what the acceptance rate is for re-applicants and any thoughts on how I should approach this?

Thanks in advance and let the games begin...again.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 15 Jun 2009, 15:31
I updated the first page with dates...I missed them when they came out...don't know if anyone else did the same. If anyone with mod privileges knows how to put it in a table, feel free.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 15 Jun 2009, 23:24
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Re-applicant new to this thread here.

I was waitlisted from R2 and got the ding letter last Thursday. Back to to drawing board, but just found out I had to redo all the essays.
I am going take a few days off before I start but have some questions I need help with.

1. Most of the essay questions are identical to last years. (Exception for the Peer evaluation essay). Do I need to
develop new topics for each essay?

2. Does anyone know what the acceptance rate is for re-applicants and any thoughts on how I should approach this?

Thanks in advance and let the games begin...again.


Hey,

Sorry to hear about the ding. On the flip side at least you know they were seriously considering you. I'm not sure if I would switch essay topics but I would definitely see what needs improvement with my essays (including if necessary, using an admissions consultant).

With the optional essays, I'd consider picking different ones just so the application doesn't look too familiar.

Remember - your main goal should be to show them how you are a better candidate this year than you were the previous one.

Good luck!
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2009, 02:32
I wonder what's up with Kellogg being super popular on gmatclub year after year!

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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2009, 04:11
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I wonder what's up with Kellogg being super popular on gmatclub year after year!

Good luck everyone.


We're just a fun loving group of people here at Kellogg - not unlike the Gmatclub :)
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2009, 10:22
hmm where did you see the new dates? I checked the Kellogg page and it's still saying 2008.

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I updated the first page with dates...I missed them when they came out...don't know if anyone else did the same. If anyone with mod privileges knows how to put it in a table, feel free.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2009, 11:00
I'm in.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2009, 15:11
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hmm where did you see the new dates? I checked the Kellogg page and it's still saying 2008.

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I updated the first page with dates...I missed them when they came out...don't know if anyone else did the same. If anyone with mod privileges knows how to put it in a table, feel free.


Right you are...I got them from accepted.com, but it looks like they just changed the year on them. Their link goes back to the 2008 dates. I will remove them for now.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Jun 2009, 17:21
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dynabook wrote:
hmm where did you see the new dates? I checked the Kellogg page and it's still saying 2008.

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I updated the first page with dates...I missed them when they came out...don't know if anyone else did the same. If anyone with mod privileges knows how to put it in a table, feel free.


Right you are...I got them from accepted.com, but it looks like they just changed the year on them. Their link goes back to the 2008 dates. I will remove them for now.


They are now up officially - looks to be the same as last year.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Jun 2009, 13:51
Is anyone else having a terrible time trying to fit Essay #1 into 600 words? I feel as though they're trying to get two traditional essays into one with both a rundown of your work experience AND future goals AND why an MBA AND why Kellogg.

What breakdown are you guys/gals going with in terms of percentage of each topic. It says "briefly" describe your work experience, and then the other stuff. It seems silly to only devote like a paragraph to skim your work experience but it sounds like that's what they're looking for...am I crazy?
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