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# Calling all Michigan (Ross) Fall 2009 Applicants!

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23 Aug 2008, 09:51
refurb wrote:
Anyone else's ass getting kicked by essay question 3?

3. If you were not pursuing the career goals you described in Question 1, what profession would you pursue instead? (For example, teacher, musician, athlete, architect, etc.) How will this alternate interest contribute to your effectiveness in solving multidisciplinary problems?

I've done two different essays and I think they both suck:

Pros: Can talk about actual experience (leadership, communication, innovation, etc) that would be useful in solving MD problems.
Con: Will I give the adcom's the impression I should be a teacher instead of going for an MBA?

2. Talked about a hobby (cars) and extended that to a fantasy career of a professional race car driver.
Pros: Avoid the issue of "he shouldn't be doing an MBA". (Since the alternate career is obviously a fantasy)
Cons: The connection between the hobby and MD problem solving skills is weak.

I've heard that the safe route is to pick a career that is closely linked with your post-MBA career goals that also requires an MBA. However, that seems really weak too and I think the adcoms will see right through it. At least option #2 above gives some insight into me as a person (passions/hobbies).

I've read three different consultants views on the question and it's not any clearer on what I should pursue.
Vibranture
Stacy Blackman

Anyone care to comment?

RF

Exactly my problem.. I had posted this question in the main MBA application forum but didn't get any responses. So, I posted it in this forum again and then I saw your post. How can careers such as musicians, chess player help solve multi disciplinary problems? Also, why would you care about solving multi-disciplinary problems if you are a musician or an athlete? If I pursue a completely different profession, say musician, I wouldn't go to business school. If I become a musician, my goal would be to entertain people. How can my ability to play musical instruments or perform in a concert contribute to solving multi-disciplinary problems?
I am confused.
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23 Aug 2008, 12:37
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aakashganga wrote:
Exactly my problem.. I had posted this question in the main MBA application forum but didn't get any responses. So, I posted it in this forum again and then I saw your post. How can careers such as musicians, chess player help solve multi disciplinary problems? Also, why would you care about solving multi-disciplinary problems if you are a musician or an athlete? If I pursue a completely different profession, say musician, I wouldn't go to business school. If I become a musician, my goal would be to entertain people. How can my ability to play musical instruments or perform in a concert contribute to solving multi-disciplinary problems?
I am confused.

I think I've got a better grasp on the question now that I'd had some time to think about it.

I think the ideal content for this question would be an extra-curricular activity that you have a real passion for. Something that you can relate your experience to when it comes to solving multi-disciplinary problems. For example, if you volunteered with Habitat for Humanity, you could say your alternate career would be a home builder. You could then talk about the leadership you needed to show when you volunteered.

As to skills useful in solving MD problems, think "soft" skills like communication, persuasion, organization, motivation, vision, innovation, etc.

You don't have to go for the grand slam. I think this question also tests your ability to relate your personal experiences to the "bigger picture". Going back to the Habitat for Humanity example: If you were working on a bathroom remodel and people were getting in each others way, maybe you organized the work so it was done more efficiently? That would fall under leadership and organization. Those are both skills that would be useful in solving MD problems.

I think you need to focus less on what the alternate career is and more on the day-to-day skills you show when you pursue it. For example, if you had a musical skill you could talk about the leadership you showed when you tried to organize practice sessions.

RF

But, then I thought you never answered how you would solve the multi-disciplinary problems. 2nd part of the question asks "How will this alternate interest contribute to your effectiveness in solving multi-disciplinary problems?" As a musician what MD problems will I solve? I might be able to answer how based on the leadership skills I have shown lets say in arranging practice sessions. or is it that answering what MD problems is irrelevant?
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23 Aug 2008, 13:13
aakashganga wrote:
But, then I thought you never answered how you would solve the multi-disciplinary problems. 2nd part of the question asks "How will this alternate interest contribute to your effectiveness in solving multi-disciplinary problems?" As a musician what MD problems will I solve? I might be able to answer how based on the leadership skills I have shown lets say in arranging practice sessions. or is it that answering what MD problems is irrelevant?

I think this is a poorly written question, so your confusion (and mine) is understandable.

Apparently they took out parts of the question that were in there last year. Did you read the links to the admission consultants blogs that I posted above? They are helpful in getting a sense of what the question is asking.

The MD problems they talk about relate back to the MAP projects. So what the question is actually saying is:

What skills have you obtained through your alternate interests and how will they contribute to your effectiveness during a MAP project?

RF
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23 Aug 2008, 13:26
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aakashganga wrote:
But, then I thought you never answered how you would solve the multi-disciplinary problems. 2nd part of the question asks "How will this alternate interest contribute to your effectiveness in solving multi-disciplinary problems?" As a musician what MD problems will I solve? I might be able to answer how based on the leadership skills I have shown lets say in arranging practice sessions. or is it that answering what MD problems is irrelevant?

I think this is a poorly written question, so your confusion (and mine) is understandable.

Apparently they took out parts of the question that were in there last year. Did you read the links to the admission consultants blogs that I posted above? They are helpful in getting a sense of what the question is asking.

The MD problems they talk about relate back to the MAP projects. So what the question is actually saying is:

What skills have you obtained through your alternate interests and how will they contribute to your effectiveness during a MAP project?

RF

Yes I read those. So, does that mean the answer to 'What MD problems' is not relevant here?
Here is how I was trying to write this essay.

Para 1 - what alternate profession
Para 2 - Why this alternate profession
Para 3 - skill 1 & 2 learned though this alternate interest will help solve MD problem X.
Para 4 - skill 3 & 4 learned though this alternate interest will help solve MD problem Y.
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23 Aug 2008, 14:11
aakashganga wrote:
Yes I read those. So, does that mean the answer to 'What MD problems' is not relevant here?
Here is how I was trying to write this essay.

Para 1 - what alternate profession
Para 2 - Why this alternate profession
Para 3 - skill 1 & 2 learned though this alternate interest will help solve MD problem X.
Para 4 - skill 3 & 4 learned though this alternate interest will help solve MD problem Y.

OK, I see what you're getting at now. I think you have two options. Talk about specific MD problems you can solve, or talk about MD problems in general (which I think is an easier approach).

What MD problems were you thinking of talking about? I think that might be pretty hard to do.

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23 Aug 2008, 17:39
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aakashganga wrote:
Yes I read those. So, does that mean the answer to 'What MD problems' is not relevant here?
Here is how I was trying to write this essay.

Para 1 - what alternate profession
Para 2 - Why this alternate profession
Para 3 - skill 1 & 2 learned though this alternate interest will help solve MD problem X.
Para 4 - skill 3 & 4 learned though this alternate interest will help solve MD problem Y.

OK, I see what you're getting at now. I think you have two options. Talk about specific MD problems you can solve, or talk about MD problems in general (which I think is an easier approach).

What MD problems were you thinking of talking about? I think that might be pretty hard to do.

RF

Hehe... I was struggling with talking about specific problems, but I thought the adcom wanted me to talk about a few MD problems...

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23 Aug 2008, 18:47
This may seem like a silly question, but the essay instructions say, "Use at least 11pt font and 1.5 inch spacing." Does this mean use 1.5 inch spacing or use at least 1.5 inch spacing?

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23 Aug 2008, 18:49
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OK, I see what you're getting at now. I think you have two options. Talk about specific MD problems you can solve, or talk about MD problems in general (which I think is an easier approach).

I'm going to take the latter latter approach as well.
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23 Aug 2008, 19:48
Just signed up for the Ross event on 9/29 in Marina del Rey. Hope to see some of the SoCal gmatclub crew there!
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23 Aug 2008, 19:55
ryguy904 wrote:
This may seem like a silly question, but the essay instructions say, "Use at least 11pt font and 1.5 inch spacing." Does this mean use 1.5 inch spacing or use at least 1.5 inch spacing?

Thanks!

I don't think you can go wrong by use 11pt font and exactly 1.5 LINE spacing.

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25 Aug 2008, 19:09
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refurb wrote:
Just so everyone knows, you can register for a visit to Ross now!!

I'll be there on September 25th!!

I'm still deciding between the 25th and the 26th. The 26th works so much better since I'm flying in from the West Coast but that happy hour on the 25th is calling to me...Oh yeah, class visits too on the 25th!

Wooooooooo! I'm in for Thursday the 25th. I'll be the guy in the maize and blue striped dress shirt!!!

Dang, that's pretty expensive. I'd just go with whatever is recommended on the website. The only hotel I know of that's on campus is the Bell Tower, but that's probably more than $199/night. It may be cheaper to get a hotel off campus and renting a car. I'm crashing on my old roommate's couch. He's about 3 miles off campus so I'll have to rent a car. SVP Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 1559 Location: Ann Arbor Schools: Ross '10 Followers: 13 Kudos [?]: 178 [0], given: 1 Re: Calling Michigan Ross School of Business Applicants - 2009! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 25 Aug 2008, 19:52 You can easily find a place to stay for$50-70 per night within a couple of miles on campus. Red Roof Inn, Extended Stay America, Sheraton and a ton of other hotels are around the boardwalk area (2 miles from campus). The hotels are well connected by public transport($1 fare). Current Student Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 101 Schools: Duke, UCLA, Cornell, Ross,Tuck, Haas Followers: 1 Kudos [?]: 3 [0], given: 0 Re: Calling Michigan Ross School of Business Applicants - 2009! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 26 Aug 2008, 07:51 ncprasad wrote: You can easily find a place to stay for$50-70 per night within a couple of miles on campus. Red Roof Inn, Extended Stay America, Sheraton and a ton of other hotels are around the boardwalk area (2 miles from campus). The hotels are well connected by public transport($1 fare). I stayed at the Marriott At Eagle Crest in Ypsilanti . I got a good deal with priceline ,$72.94 ( includes tax). This is very close to the school but not walking distance.
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26 Aug 2008, 12:38
visiting on 9/8 and applying for round 1.

went there for undergrad and loved it. i miss it even more after graduating. it's a beautiful and very "home sweet home" feeling campus.
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26 Aug 2008, 17:18
You can easily find a place to stay for $50-70 per night within a couple of miles on campus. Red Roof Inn, Extended Stay America, Sheraton and a ton of other hotels are around the boardwalk area (2 miles from campus). The hotels are well connected by public transport($1 fare).

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27 Aug 2008, 21:43
PM some of us current Wolverines - Darden2010, ncprasad and me - about the dates and times you all are getting into AA and we'll try and set up a meeting. If there are more than one of you visiting on a particular day, even better!
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28 Aug 2008, 13:16
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PM some of us current Wolverines - Darden2010, ncprasad and me - about the dates and times you all are getting into AA and we'll try and set up a meeting. If there are more than one of you visiting on a particular day, even better!

wow.. That would be awesome... Thank you so much.
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28 Aug 2008, 20:02
Anyone applying or has applied to Discover Ross?
Re: Calling Michigan Ross School of Business Applicants - 2009!   [#permalink] 28 Aug 2008, 20:02

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