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Kwam - Submitted Date: 10/28/2007 3:40:00 PM E.S.T.
ncprasad - Submitted 10/28/07 2.10 PST
CookieMonster - still working on essay OUTLINES.
riverripper - Essays written (editing), cover letter not started, optional complete
sangoman - Essays 2 frozen, two semi solid , cover letter and optional essay not started
aurobindo - Submitted for R1. 1 reco in. Waiting for 2nd reco.
collegesenior - Starting on essays. Made broad plan for each. Apping in R1.
DrivinWest - Cover letter 75%, 2 x 75% done, 2 x 0% done but I just had an epiphany on the topic... going to pound it out right now.
dabots - Submitted 10/29/07 6:45 pm
saurabh357 - Submitted 10/29/07 10:12 Pm IST
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Anyone know how MIT adcoms view deviations from specified essay word count?
are they somewhat accomodating, or are they like "under 500 or in the trash?"
my cover letter is 600 words, but i dont want to cut it anymore.
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GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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I was told by an adcom they look much more favorably on someone who can write an essay below the limit than one who feels the need to go over. This was strongly emphasized and I guess being short and sweet is what they want. They dont count words but they give a limit for a reason. That said a 5% over is probably easy enough to sneak by without seeming over the limit and even 10% wouldnt be too bad. Personally I would hack a few sentences out. Also remember the word count is on the body not the fluff like dear mr garcia and sincerely cookie monster.
Remember unlike a lot of schools, Sloan doesn't use students in their process so the adcoms are doing ALL of the reading. You may be better off moving stuff into the end of the supplemental area.
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riverripper wrote: I was told by an adcom they look much more favorably on someone who can write an essay below the limit than one who feels the need to go over. This was strongly emphasized and I guess being short and sweet is what they want. They dont count words but they give a limit for a reason. That said a 5% over is probably easy enough to sneak by without seeming over the limit and even 10% wouldnt be too bad. Personally I would hack a few sentences out. Also remember the word count is on the body not the fluff like dear mr garcia and sincerely cookie monster.
Remember unlike a lot of schools, Sloan doesn't use students in their process so the adcoms are doing ALL of the reading. You may be better off moving stuff into the end of the supplemental area.
thanks for the prompt response.
I just think the letter is powerful now, and each line i cut will weaken it.
but i'll continue to cut. thanks
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GMAT Club Legend
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It gets painful taking more and more out. I found the easiest way to do it was give it to someone else and have them tell me what to remove. I become to attached to how it is and need an outside opinion on what is not value added.
I sent mine to my brother for a final proofreading and taking his suggestions they have gone from 500-525 words each down to 475 on average (one or two are closer to 450 than 500). Just some of the stuff didn't add to my story and they actually seem to have a much better impact when they are shorter. He had some great points about what was useless, and what he didnt understand or didnt care about.
Question for anyone who has an opinion, I am putting mine all into PDF format (gotta love macs) and am curious if people put the essays at the start?
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Joined: 18 Sep 2006
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riverripper wrote: It gets painful taking more and more out. I found the easiest way to do it was give it to someone else and have them tell me what to remove. I become to attached to how it is and need an outside opinion on what is not value added.
I sent mine to my brother for a final proofreading and taking his suggestions they have gone from 500-525 words each down to 475 on average (one or two are closer to 450 than 500). Just some of the stuff didn't add to my story and they actually seem to have a much better impact when they are shorter. He had some great points about what was useless, and what he didnt understand or didnt care about.
Question for anyone who has an opinion, I am putting mine all into PDF format (gotta love macs) and am curious if people put the essays at the start?
why are you putting them into pdf? the applyyourself site converts everything to pdf anyway. i repeated the questions at the top just because the essays topics are so damn similar, even though the site adds a heading in the corner.
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GMAT Club Legend
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dabots wrote: riverripper wrote: It gets painful taking more and more out. I found the easiest way to do it was give it to someone else and have them tell me what to remove. I become to attached to how it is and need an outside opinion on what is not value added.
I sent mine to my brother for a final proofreading and taking his suggestions they have gone from 500-525 words each down to 475 on average (one or two are closer to 450 than 500). Just some of the stuff didn't add to my story and they actually seem to have a much better impact when they are shorter. He had some great points about what was useless, and what he didnt understand or didnt care about.
Question for anyone who has an opinion, I am putting mine all into PDF format (gotta love macs) and am curious if people put the essays at the start? why are you putting them into pdf? the applyyourself site converts everything to pdf anyway. i repeated the questions at the top just because the essays topics are so damn similar, even though the site adds a heading in the corner.
Everything is always screwed up going from mac to pc so its easier to just export them as pdfs to be on the safe side.
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GMAT Club Legend
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So my application is done but my recs haven't come through. Both have done all of them to this point and I know they had them answered. I am paranoid now.
Amazingly I think these are my best set of essays so far. I still hate the questions but they actualy turned out very well. Then again this is also the most difficult school I am applying to, especially as an engineer.
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I am relieved. Both recos are in
wish u good luck to all R1 guys.
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Mine looks like a race against time.
2 essays to go. 2 recos to come.
Time for a nap before I take another shot!
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collegesenior wrote: Mine looks like a race against time. 2 essays to go. 2 recos to come. Time for a nap before I take another shot!
im racing too..2 all-nighters in a row, and like 4 last week!
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Joined: 09 Jan 2007
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I'm going to have a heart attack. Neither of them are in. My direct supervisor has a meeting and it seems he just won't have time for that.
I will have to go for a PlanB
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Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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kwam wrote: I will have to go for a PlanB
And that is?!?
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KingKREEP wrote: kwam wrote: I will have to go for a PlanB
And that is?!?
I've just checked that at Sloan there's no room for a Plan B. I can't change the recommenders or put a 3rd once I registered my recommenders...
It's going to be a very tough day
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Still missing one rec...This is going to be a stressful day. At least its my supervisor whose office is right across from mine so its not that hard to find him
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1 reco down 1 to go, from my supervisor, I've already asked him twice, now I'm on the thin line of really piss him off.
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Joined: 02 Jun 2007
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Any thoughts about whether applying to the E&I will help or hurt one's chances? It is possible to get into Sloan having been rejected by the E&I program, right?
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DrivinWest wrote: It is possible to get into Sloan having been rejected by the E&I program, right?
Am pretty sure
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Current Student
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I thought so. I tried calling them just now but got routed right to voicemail.
Applying to the E&I program was bit of a last-minute decision but I feel that it's the right one given my whole reason for going to B-school!
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kwam wrote: I can't change the recommenders or put a 3rd once I registered my recommenders... It's going to be a very tough day
Sure of this? I had a problem with my second recommender. I added a 3rd recommender. She got the mail, and submitted the reco today. I have even received confirmation mail from Sloan. Then I sent a mail to second recommender saying that she need not worry about the reco.
We can't remove the recommender once we enter the details, but we can add recommenders.
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