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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2008, 12:52
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OK thanks. FYI, at the NYU info session, Isser Gallagly said they expect to invite 50% to interview and 60% of those invited for interview will receive offers of admission.



According to this Q&A in Businessweek, it is only 25 to 30%....


http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/mb ... page_2.htm


Solaris caught this one. It was 22% (see above).
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2008, 13:00
sonibubu wrote:

Solaris caught this one. It was 22% (see above).


Oops...what can I say...I am blinded by MBA applications....I can't see anything but the embark notification sites....
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2008, 19:27
I am in for R1. Submitted on 11/15 just before the 2 pm PST deadline.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2008, 21:10
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I am in for R1. Submitted on 11/15 just before the 2 pm PST deadline.


Got you on the list. What was your submit date?

Ryguy, kidderek...what were your submit dates? This will help us verify is NYU does rolling apps (as is my assumption) within rounds.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2008, 21:19
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suntaurian wrote:
I am in for R1. Submitted on 11/15 just before the 2 pm PST deadline.


Got you on the list. What was your submit date?

Ryguy, kidderek...what were your submit dates? This will help us verify is NYU does rolling apps (as is my assumption) within rounds.



Thanks Soni...I had submitted on the 15th of Nov for the same day deadline.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 10:00
Anybody hear specifics about the number of applications submitted for Fall '09? I heard some pretty disturbing stats that I hope are not true. I was told that there was a greater than a 100% increase in the number at NYU from last year. Granted, I received this information indirectly, and there is probably some degree of exaggeration, but STILL.....
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 10:07
I think greater than 100% increase is false.

However, I did hear that app volume is up around 40% compared to LY. (it was in one of those admissions Q&A in either BW, WSJ, or some other pub)

Another disturbing fact was Stern adcom thinks by the time R3 deadline comes around, they won't have much slots left for Fall 2009 FT.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 10:27
Thanks for the info. ninkorn.

I wonder if the NYC schools will see a relatively greater increase in application volume because of the Finance Industry..Either way, it will be tough this year.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 10:36
ninkorn and tamg08, if you would post sources for those statistics you cite, it would be very helpful. Otherwise it's simply pure speculation.

IMO, it's highly unlikely that R1 applications are up 40%.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 11:17
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ninkorn and tamg08, if you would post sources for those statistics you cite, it would be very helpful. Otherwise it's simply pure speculation.

IMO, it's highly unlikely that R1 applications are up 40%.


Found the Bw article I read few wks ago.

My bad. 40% number was for Penn State - Smeal. NYU was in the same article (paragraph after Smeal) and I guess I just remembered 40% number.

http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/co ... 158181.htm

According to the article,, NYU received 20% increase in apps in 2008 vs 2007.


Also according to this article:

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pbcs. ... 69985/1057

Stern MBA apps are expected to be significantly higher in 2009. There was another article in WSJ that Fall 2009 app numbers are not official yet

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394012554930657.html

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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 11:21
@ Solaris: I understand your concern about misinformation and the hysteria it could cause.

I'll tell you as much as I can about my information. It came indirectly from a current Stern student via this student's family member, whom I trust very much and who has no reason to lie. That's why I was conflicted about posting it. It seems like a crazy number, but I trust the source. I figured if it were true, everyone would already be freaking out about it on this forum. If it was simply an exaggeration, someone informed, such as ninkorn, would set me straight. I definitely believe ninkorn's number.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 12:07
tamg08 wrote:
It came indirectly from a current Stern student via this student's family member, whom I trust very much and who has no reason to lie. That's why I was conflicted about posting it. It seems like a crazy number, but I trust the source. I figured if it were true, everyone would already be freaking out about it on this forum. If it was simply an exaggeration, someone informed, such as ninkorn, would set me straight. I definitely believe ninkorn's number.


I am intruiged as to where this might have come from. I can't think of any student that would know this at all. There have been signs that their would be an increase, but I can't see any basis for where this was found.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 12:25
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It came indirectly from a current Stern student via this student's family member, whom I trust very much and who has no reason to lie. That's why I was conflicted about posting it. It seems like a crazy number, but I trust the source. I figured if it were true, everyone would already be freaking out about it on this forum. If it was simply an exaggeration, someone informed, such as ninkorn, would set me straight. I definitely believe ninkorn's number.


I am intruiged as to where this might have come from. I can't think of any student that would know this at all. There have been signs that their would be an increase, but I can't see any basis for where this was found.


I can almost guarantee without a doubt that NYU didn't see a 100% app increase. NYU had something like 4500 apps last year, more than University of Chicago in fact. I can't imagine they received 9,000 apps this year, just doesn't sound plausible.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 12:36
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You are entirely missing the point. The conjecture is that R1 applications were up 100%. The 4,800 applications (give or take) are over the three rounds and dominated by R2 in volume.

A shift in applications to R1 to double applications could happen through just a movement to apply early. I just don't think there will be a sound source for it (though could be wrong), and being at Stern should mean I would hear about it - if it did happen and was told to the class, everyone would be talking.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 13:42
My point exactly, no way they'd be up 100% in R1, R2, R3, or as a whole.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 13:49
R2 & R3 haven't happened. I don't get your point - it is a known unknown. Why would anyone be talking about something being up that hasn't happened?

On R1 (Class 2011), applications can be up or down relative to R1 (Class 2010). A lot of schools will be looking at this measure in a way to prepare for the overall application volume - it will be a known metric at all schools, as the whole interview process will be based off it in some way (offers, interviews, waitlists).

Now if R1 is up hugely, can you assume this will be reflected in the same way across all rounds, or that it represents a change in skew, meaning more people are applying R1 who, historically, may have been in R2. Who knows? My guess is someone at least thinks about all this, but it isn't going to be me.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 14:51
Keep in mind that the BW article re: PSU-Smeal noted that the increase in application volume was the largest in mid-range business schools, aka outside the top 20. I don't see why that would have changed this year. People like to talk about NYU/Columbia exploding in apps due to the wall street crisis but wall st people wanted to go to those schools even when times were good. So for me it's hard to fathom a more than 40% jump overall.

What I definitely DO forecast(and I readily admit I have no hard facts to back this up) is that the 'bulge' in these mid-range schools is felt more in R2 and the top 20 schools in R1, largely because I think many people (perhaps myself included) start off with only their dream schools in mind and then shift to their backup plans when the R2 deadlines approach and they don't have an admit. So even if the R1 at Stern has jumped 40%, I don't think that will necessarily be the case for all rounds.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 16:17
3underscore wrote:
R2 & R3 haven't happened. I don't get your point - it is a known unknown. Why would anyone be talking about something being up that hasn't happened?


Simple. By using past events as an indicator of future events. In the worst downturns, apps haven't gone up 100% (for ANY round) for M7 schools or ones a tier below such as NYU, Duke, etc. With a school like NYU that's large and gets tons of apps, it's just unfathomable to get a 100% increase in apps in ANY round.

Plus, from what I've read (by the people who "think about all this"), R2 is expected to have the biggest jump. So if R1 had a 100% increase, then R2 will have a 200% increase? Um, no...don't think so. So the point again: 100% app increase for a school as large as NYU? NOPE, don't believe it. 20-40%? Yeah I can believe that. That's all I'm trying to say.

Sure Penn St might get that 100% jump, but they have just a few hundred applicants (for a class size of just over 100 I believe).
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 16:36
Someone on BW reported receiving an interview invite. Seems legit.
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Re: Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants! [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2008, 16:43
solaris1 wrote:
Someone on BW reported receiving an interview invite. Seems legit.


Not that I'm doubting, but what about "Just got an interview invite :) Anyone else?" makes it legitimate or illegitimate?
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