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Re: Calling all ROSS 2012 applicants [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2011, 10:54
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Hello, all,

I am applying to Ross through the Consortium this year. I plan to visit the second week of October for one of the VIP visit days. Any tips/advice on where to stay, what to see, good places to eat, and anything else is more than welcomed. I am from Los Angeles and will be staying there 3 days. Thanks!

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Re: Calling all ROSS 2012 applicants [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2011, 13:35
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Hello, all,

I am applying to Ross through the Consortium this year. I plan to visit the second week of October for one of the VIP visit days. Any tips/advice on where to stay, what to see, good places to eat, and anything else is more than welcomed. I am from Los Angeles and will be staying there 3 days. Thanks!

-Karen


There are several hotels near Briarwood Mall that would be alright. You will be able to take a taxi (if you don't have a car). Ann Arbor is fairly convenient since it's not too big. As for food and things to see, Main Street has more of the bigger restaurants and bars while south University near the bschool has a lot of the B-school hangouts. Kerrytown is nice with a food co-op, farmer's market, and Zingermann's (great deli).

You can probably meet some Ross Students then ask where people are going that night. Everything in Ann Arbor is walkable. Go So-Cal!
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 10:32
Current/Ex-students,
could you please comment on the internship & job opportunities in general management? From the latest employment report I see that as many guys went into GM as (almost) into IB:
http://www.bus.umich.edu/EmploymentData/ByFunction.htm
what's the reason - there is no interest from students? no offers in GM? or the offers are not sexy?

thanks!
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 11:03
I would not necessarily break it down that way since "General Management" is very broad and is also contained in other areas. These are students self Identified. Example: product manager at P&G or Apple can be marketing or general management.

Product Manager at Ford Global Product Strategy can be marketing, operations/engineering, or general management.

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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 11:19
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I would not necessarily break it down that way since "General Management" is very broad and is also contained in other areas. These are students self Identified. Example: product manager at P&G or Apple can be marketing or general management.

Product Manager at Ford Global Product Strategy can be marketing, operations/engineering, or general management.

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Thanks! That partially answers my question. But I am still wondering about job offers/opportunities.

The reason for my curiosity is: I was chatting with some students and they told me that GM positions are normally filled PREFERABLY with US citizens because in that way US companies don’t need to spend intl workers quote on somebody who is in great supply anyhow. The companies would rather use their limited quotas to attract scarce hi-tech or unique specialists.

Another view is that GM positions (unlike those in finance or MC analytics) require much stronger people skills AND great knowledge of local culture (well, everyone heard about Britney Spear, but what if your department is filled with 40+ men who listen to country music you never heard about??)

That is why I'd like to get a Rossian's view on the GM opportunities.
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 18:10
I'll be applying to Ross 1st or 2nd round. I'm particularly interested in the Erb institute and the dual MBA-MS in Natural Resources and the Environment. If anyone can speak about that I'd be thrilled to hear!

I'll be in Boston tomorrow night as Ross is holding an info session. Anyone else going to be there?


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I'm coming on three years in sustainable tech sales and marketing. Two working for a German manufacturer as a Regional Sales Manager and the recent year working for a triple bottom line start up Solar and Energy Efficiency Integrator as the Marketing and Sales Manager. In total I have 9+ years WE, an absurd amount of community involvement, and working hard to rock the GMAT this coming October 8th!
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 19:22
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GoBruin wrote:
I would not necessarily break it down that way since "General Management" is very broad and is also contained in other areas. These are students self Identified. Example: product manager at P&G or Apple can be marketing or general management.

Product Manager at Ford Global Product Strategy can be marketing, operations/engineering, or general management.

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Thanks! That partially answers my question. But I am still wondering about job offers/opportunities.

The reason for my curiosity is: I was chatting with some students and they told me that GM positions are normally filled PREFERABLY with US citizens because in that way US companies don’t need to spend intl workers quote on somebody who is in great supply anyhow. The companies would rather use their limited quotas to attract scarce hi-tech or unique specialists.

Another view is that GM positions (unlike those in finance or MC analytics) require much stronger people skills AND great knowledge of local culture (well, everyone heard about Britney Spear, but what if your department is filled with 40+ men who listen to country music you never heard about??)

That is why I'd like to get a Rossian's view on the GM opportunities.


This is like a very multi-part question and the answers would differ greatly. I will try to answer from my perspective as a Ross Student non-international. (My response will probably be applicable for GM recruiting for most schools)

Preferably is not exactly how I would put it. If you are invited to interview, you should have equal chance of getting the job. With that said, the difficulty will lie in getting to the interview. Companies are basically, no sponsor or will sponsor, and they say it right off the bat. In fact, at Ross when you apply it's highlighted in BIG RED LETTERS.

Unfortunately, many US companies do not sponsor. I will randomly throw out a number I hear, about 30-40% non-consulting/non-finance companies will sponsor internationals. You can verify it by visiting the webpages of companies you are interested in. With consulting almost all major firms (except Accenture) and I believe nearly all Investment Banks will sponsor. This is not a Ross thing. This is a company thing. So it will be the same for Kellogg, Booth, etc. (There can be exceptions to this rule, but those are very isolated cases)

With the second comment about GM requiring more people skills, I wouldn't really say that's a quality of GM that stands out. GM is very broad, but for the most part, consulting and marketing would require more soft skills than general management. P&G spends a great deal of time focusing on personality and communications skills. As a group, General Management is not the hardest to get into if you just want a GM position. IB/Consulting/Marketing are probably harder based on competition. However specific popular industries may be harder if you don't have any background in the field, such Tech, Healthcare, etc.

I think if you're really interested in General Management, you should research specific industries rather than group GM as a whole. It's almost like the catch all bucket. (This is true for most other schools too).
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2011, 08:50
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I think if you're really interested in General Management, you should research specific industries rather than group GM as a whole. It's almost like the catch all bucket. (This is true for most other schools too).


Wow, that is THE ANSWER! Thanks, appreciated! For sure, the sponsorship matter is not school-dependant. As for my GM choice, I consider either industrial (GE, Samsung) or FMCG conglomerates.
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I will be applying to Ross in R1 and thinking about attending either VIP (visit in person) or Ross Preview Day. Which one do you think is more informative and/or useful? I understand that sitting in the class is not one of the activities during Ross Preview Day, am I correct? Thanks.


Sorry for the taking so long to reply, I wanted to check on the two activities before I respond.

The Preview Day is intended to be a more extensive overview of Ross. The difference are:

VIP:
- Student Panel
- Building Tour
- Classroom Session (Mon-Thurs)
- Lunch with MBA Students

Preview Day
- Student Panel
- Building Tour
- Lunch with MBA Students
- Application Session with Admission Officer
- Session with Office of Career Development
- Opportunity to meet students and staff from the various instates and centers

I hope this helps
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 11 Sep 2011, 04:53
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alexBLR wrote:
Hi everyone,
I will be applying to Ross in R1 and thinking about attending either VIP (visit in person) or Ross Preview Day. Which one do you think is more informative and/or useful? I understand that sitting in the class is not one of the activities during Ross Preview Day, am I correct? Thanks.


Sorry for the taking so long to reply, I wanted to check on the two activities before I respond.

The Preview Day is intended to be a more extensive overview of Ross. The difference are:

VIP:
- Student Panel
- Building Tour
- Classroom Session (Mon-Thurs)
- Lunch with MBA Students

Preview Day
- Student Panel
- Building Tour
- Lunch with MBA Students
- Application Session with Admission Officer
- Session with Office of Career Development
- Opportunity to meet students and staff from the various instates and centers

I hope this helps


Thank you, it does help. I will be attending Preview Day on 23rd.(but I must say GoWings :) )
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2011, 05:45
Is anyone visiting Ross in near future? I am visitng on 15th Sept - please let me know if you would like to meet up!

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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2011, 12:17
In for R1!!
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2011, 01:37
Round 1 or 2, depending on work!
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 19 Sep 2011, 02:53
Applied for R1. Ross is a great school. It shows from the project they did here on GMATclub when students helped us with our essays. Furthermore, I contact 2 current students and BOTH rushed to help me with info and tips. Ross truly an MBA for team work!

If anyone needs any info on the essays I am happy to help. We can cross-reference and do interview prep :)
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2011, 10:48
I'm going to Ross for the Preview Day this Friday, Sep 23rd. Anyone else from GC going?
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 21 Sep 2011, 23:55
Please add me in roll call...re-applicant to Ross...was waitlisted till R3 last year
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Sep 2011, 17:48
Hey re-applicant here. WL'ed last year. Would love to share/brainstorm re-application approach for this year with other re-applicants. Few key points I am trying to get my arms around are:

1. R1 vs. R2.
2. Can I get some feedback from ad com?
3. All essays or some essays or just Cover letter/resume
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2011, 09:02
Re-applicant too. Count me in for R1. I went to a Ross session here in London last week, and they said a CV/cover letter is fine. But if you feel you could provide additional information with any of the essay go for it.

I will probably submit my goals essay, just reiterate

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Hey re-applicant here. WL'ed last year. Would love to share/brainstorm re-application approach for this year with other re-applicants. Few key points I am trying to get my arms around are:

1. R1 vs. R2.
2. Can I get some feedback from ad com?
3. All essays or some essays or just Cover letter/resume
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2011, 05:04
In for R1. Submitting the app in a day or two. Only school in R1 for me.
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Re: Ross 2012 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 04 Oct 2011, 02:36
"Essay 1: Introduce yourself to your Ross classmates" 100 words

During the end of the essay, are we expected to show courtesy? for example, saying things like "its great meeting you all" or "hope to have a super 2 years together" etc etc?
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