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# Calling all the Harvard Gurus - Fall'08

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[#permalink]  03 Aug 2007, 11:55
lepium wrote:

I agree, R2 won't hurt your chances, but the wait is tough. I think this year they will have a deadline for interview invites (as Chicago and Wharton have), so the wait should be a little shorter.

L.

Do y'all recommend I apply for R1 or R2? If I apply for R2 I will be able to do a full class & campus visit as well as put together better essays. My heart was initially set on R1 but I am starting to lean towards R2. I did visit the campus about a month ago for an info session but it did not include class visits, tours, or meeting with students.
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Why is the visit so important to when you apply [#permalink]  03 Aug 2007, 13:28
Why is an HBS visit a prereq to applying? I just don't see anywhere in the application or essays where that would be of enough benefit to DELAY submitting the application to another round.

Although I think visiting the school is important, for the essays I am writing not once have I thought my essay would be enhanced by visiting. Maybe I am missing something though.

Thoughts?
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Re: Why is the visit so important to when you apply [#permalink]  03 Aug 2007, 16:32
MGOBLUE2 wrote:
Why is an HBS visit a prereq to applying? I just don't see anywhere in the application or essays where that would be of enough benefit to DELAY submitting the application to another round.

Although I think visiting the school is important, for the essays I am writing not once have I thought my essay would be enhanced by visiting. Maybe I am missing something though.

Thoughts?

Many people here have mentioned that after a visit you have a much better feel for the overall culture. That way you could better tailor your essays to emphasize your fit with said school.
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[#permalink]  03 Aug 2007, 17:02
Agreed...But HBS is different. There is no 'WHY HBS' essay question.

In other words, what essay question would this help you address?
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[#permalink]  03 Aug 2007, 20:54
Although there is no explicit "Why HBS" essay, you still want to tailor your career goals essay to the specific school. You want to show how HBS in particular will help you reach your goals and why no other school would do. It is also a good idea to have your other essays emphasize characteristics that are a good fit with HBS.

One plus is that all R1 applicants will have the same predicament, formal class visits don't start until Oct 9th, 7 days after the R1 deadline. During my visit for an info session an Adcom mentioned that some students do visit schools a year in advance. The adcom thought that was a little ridiculous though and didn't expect that much planning out of prospective students.
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[#permalink]  04 Aug 2007, 09:11
I find the below rather contradictory -

Candidates who received their bachelor's degree from an English-speaking university are not required to take the TOEFL/TWE or IELTS (i.e., they are exempt).

Candidates who received a master's or Ph.D. degree from an English-speaking university are strongly encouraged to submit the TOEFL and/or IELTS.

So - an under graduate from an english speaking Univ / followed by a Masters in the United States still warrants TOEFL ?!

I am missing the logic here ..
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[#permalink]  04 Aug 2007, 17:53
I would see that mostly being applicable to foreign students who had received a masters in the US, but not their bachelors. Otherwise, you are correct, it would make no sense!
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[#permalink]  05 Aug 2007, 21:37
Umm .. so students who recieved their UG (outside US) from an English speaking university should turn in TOEFL scores if they had continued with their masters in the US but those students who stopped with their UG needn bother about TOEFL ?! weird .. !
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[#permalink]  09 Aug 2007, 19:02
i am in for R1

for everybody out there who is wondering whether to visit or not, i have one piece of advise... do it!... whoever said it wasn't kidding when they said that a hbs class is like a meeting at the united nations... and all the flags in the classroom only add to this

i was in two minds about hbs before i visited... i have no doubts now... i still don't think i stand a chance of getting in, but i just cannot resist trying!
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Re: Why is the visit so important to when you apply [#permalink]  20 Aug 2007, 14:48
MGOBLUE2 wrote:
Why is an HBS visit a prereq to applying? Thoughts?

I don't think of it as a prereq. I think that if you have any concerns about the culture or any other doubts, it should put your mind at ease (or not). Either way, you would not want to be admitted to a school you loathe, no matter how prestigious it may be.

My advice: visit all schools to which you apply, or at least the schools to which you are admitted before comitting 2 years and 150+ k.

L.
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[#permalink]  03 Sep 2007, 20:10
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[#permalink]  03 Sep 2007, 20:36
kripalkavi wrote:
OK. I'm doing this. Gunning for HBS.

I guess our little chat convinced you. I will have to remind myself not to recruit students for B-schools before getting into one.

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[#permalink]  03 Sep 2007, 22:58
kripalkavi wrote:
OK. I'm doing this. Gunning for HBS.

I guess our little chat convinced you. I will have to remind myself not to recruit students for B-schools before getting into one.

Yup! It did. Hell, apart from $250 in application fees and 2 months of lost sleep, what have I got to lose?!? SVP Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 1560 Location: Ann Arbor Schools: Ross '10 Followers: 13 Kudos [?]: 169 [0], given: 1 [#permalink] 03 Sep 2007, 23:52 kripalkavi wrote: Yup! It did. Hell, apart from$250 in application fees and 2 months of lost sleep, what have I got to lose?!?

sleep. what's that?
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[#permalink]  04 Sep 2007, 04:00
kripalkavi wrote:
kripalkavi wrote:
OK. I'm doing this. Gunning for HBS.

I guess our little chat convinced you. I will have to remind myself not to recruit students for B-schools before getting into one.

Yup! It did. Hell, apart from \$250 in application fees and 2 months of lost sleep, what have I got to lose?!?

Oh, you haven't lost your dignity and pride yet eh? It'll come....
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[#permalink]  04 Sep 2007, 18:07
rhyme wrote:
Oh, you haven't lost your dignity and pride yet eh? It'll come....

Actually there's a checkbox, if I recall correctly...
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[#permalink]  07 Sep 2007, 06:36
Went to the Seattle HBS info session last night. I enjoyed the case study excercise, I was amazed when 50 minutes had gone by. There were of course a lot of people there trying to show how smart they are, which was frustrating when they would launch into what seemed to be prepared statements instead of answering the question that had been posed. One guy accidentally said MIT instead of HBS. There was a collective breath-sucked-in/nervous chuckle from the rest of the room. I felt bad for the guy.

The video they had about the case session was well done. The professor in the video is really high energy. I wonder if they are all like that.

The infosession reinforced how much I would like to go to HBS. The competition is stiff, and I have no super powers so I am probably unqualified, but what the heck.
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[#permalink]  08 Sep 2007, 02:01
bherronp wrote:
One guy accidentally said MIT instead of HBS.

Mama-Mia. They call it the case of the 'foot-in-mouth', I think. Anyway, the case video - was it the same one they have on the website?
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[#permalink]  09 Sep 2007, 07:08
Hi folks, I still haven't decided to apply to HBS or not. If I do, I'm wondering whether it should be R1 or R2. I heard that for R1, it's all super high GMAT/GPAs from ibanks/consulting firms. So it might be better for more mediocre (stats wise), but unique applicants to apply R2?

Currently leaning towards R2, it wouldn't be detrimental would it?
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[#permalink]  09 Sep 2007, 14:46
aceman626 wrote:
Hi folks, I still haven't decided to apply to HBS or not. If I do, I'm wondering whether it should be R1 or R2. I heard that for R1, it's all super high GMAT/GPAs from ibanks/consulting firms. So it might be better for more mediocre (stats wise), but unique applicants to apply R2?

Currently leaning towards R2, it wouldn't be detrimental would it?

Yes, I have heard about the 'super stats' syndrome in R1 too.
Here is how I see it -

R1 - Great stats / fewer applicants
R2 - 'Mediocre stats' (depends on the school) / way too many applicants

So if you think you are unique, you can take the adv of applying early esp when HBS has all its 900 seats at its disposal. They sure will be bored of the stereotypical 'super stats' and have a good eye for the uniqueness factor. atleast I hope
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