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# Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants!

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11 Nov 2012, 12:14
I disagree. If you are applying to H/S/W with a 600, best prepare for a disappointment. The vets clubs at these schools have told me the GMAT average among vets is similar to the school's average and not to expect leniency as most vets who ultimately get in have competitive GPAs and GMAT scores.

Can any current students on this forum corroborate this or have things changed in the last year?

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11 Nov 2012, 13:43
Shuaietrain wrote:
I disagree. If you are applying to H/S/W with a 600, best prepare for a disappointment. The vets clubs at these schools have told me the GMAT average among vets is similar to the school's average and not to expect leniency as most vets who ultimately get in have competitive GPAs and GMAT scores.

Can any current students on this forum corroborate this or have things changed in the last year?

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Is it possible to get in with a 600? Sure, just like it's also possible to get shut out with a 750. But your odds of admission increase substantially whenever you boost your GMAT score. I've met a few guys at HBS with 650ish GMATs, but seeing how I haven't met the 650s who didn't get in, there would be quite a bit of selection bias at play if I tried to draw any conclusions from the few low-ish GMATs I've met here.

The difference between a 600 and a 650, or between a 650 and a 700, is huge. If you have time to retake and boost your score but choose not to, you're basically just saying "I'm fine with increasing my degree of difficulty for no good reason."

With the military drawing down over the next few years I predict we'll be seeing a lot more vets applying to top MBA programs, so things are only going to get more competitive.
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11 Nov 2012, 19:40
Something else to consider: Yes you can get in with a sub-700 GMAT, but if you want to go into banking or consulting, it's probably worth re-taking the GMAT for recruiting purposes as companies in these fields actually look for that on a resume.
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21 Nov 2012, 10:54
Hey Guys,

I am a USNA grad ('07) and former Surface Warfare Officer. I am currently in my first year at Ross.

On December 1st, Ross will be hosting a Military Preview Session for interested candidates.

Here are a few items of note regarding Ross and your GI Bill benefits:

Yellow Ribbon - Unlimited for all qualified candidates
Michigan is a state school - If you are not 100% eligible for your GI Bill, you will receive a percentage of the FULL tuition (40% of $55K) In addition to the GI Bill benefits, Ross is a phenomenal program and very military friendly. Below is the official request from our admissions team. This is a reminder that the Ross School of Business is holding a special Military Preview Session on December 1, 2012. During the session, you will learn about the transition to business school and post-MBA career paths from the perspective of our military students and alumni. You will also hear from one of our senior leadership faculty, Noel Tichy, and veteran executives from Proctor & Gamble, Ford, and IBM. There will be a short session about the financial aid resources available to military students, and members of the Ross Armed Forces Association will join us for lunch. In the afternoon, there will be an opportunity to take a guided tour of Ross and the University of Michigan campus. We hope you can join us. You can register for the event here: http://www.bus.umich.edu/Conferences/Mi ... ister.aspx If you have any questions regarding the event or Ross in general, please feel free to reach out to me. Intern Joined: 17 Oct 2012 Posts: 9 GMAT 1: 720 Q51 V35 GPA: 3.21 WE: Other (Other) Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 6 [0], given: 1 Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 24 Nov 2012, 09:19 Really admired you guys can get some financial support from government. I am a Chinese veteran, lieutenant officer in artillery regiment. GPA 3.3, GMAT 700, Hope to meet you guys in the US Intern Joined: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 15 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0 Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 12 Dec 2012, 15:58 Feel pretty humbled posting here given the amazing experience of those on this thread. I haven’t seen any Coasties thus far, so I’m happy to represent. 4 yrs AD USCG Undergrad: 2.8, Varsity Soccer, Public Affairs Society, Head Coach at a local school, Worked part time Post undergrad WE: 1 yr gov’t sales rep, 2 yrs (at matriculation) credit analyst covering the Oil&Gas sector EC: Currently volunteer at a nonprofit as a mentor to refugees, Organized an athletics team for a dozen colleagues, Served as a morale rep and ran half marathons while on AD Goal: S&O consulting focusing on the federal sector Planning to enroll in a calculus course beginning next month to help offset my poor GPA. I was thrown a curveball and had to push back the GMAT until first week of January. But still planning on fighting for R2. Post graduation, I’d like to stay in the DC area. Given my stats and experience I think top 15 is an extreme long shot. Therefore, I’m applying to Georgetown, Maryland, Penn State and may add one or two others depending on my GMAT results. Current Student Status: Too close for missiles, switching to guns. Joined: 23 Oct 2012 Posts: 788 Location: United States Schools: Johnson (Cornell) - Class of 2015 WE: Military Officer (Military & Defense) Followers: 17 Kudos [?]: 316 [0], given: 175 Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 12 Dec 2012, 19:52 timbo0205 wrote: Post graduation, I’d like to stay in the DC area. Given my stats and experience I think top 15 is an extreme long shot. Therefore, I’m applying to Georgetown, Maryland, Penn State and may add one or two others depending on my GMAT results. Good luck on the GMAT! If you're able to crack 700, I highly recommend adding at least one of the following to your list: UVA, Cornell, UNC, and Duke. All of those schools appreciate vets and I think your 2.8 could be less of an issue if you've got a 700+ GMAT and a compelling story to tell. _________________ Current Student Joined: 04 Oct 2011 Posts: 433 Concentration: Finance GMAT 1: 700 Q44 V41 GMAT 2: 750 Q48 V46 GPA: 3.03 WE: Project Management (Military & Defense) Followers: 16 Kudos [?]: 115 [0], given: 150 Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 13 Dec 2012, 06:01 Definitely don't sell yourself short. I have a 3.03 GPA from my undergrad and I got into Columbia and invited to interview with Booth (I think I would have been accepted as well but I withdrew my application since I applied ED to Columbia). I know a 2.8 is lower still but I agree with CobraKai. If you kill it on the GMAT and have a good story you should definitely include some higher reach schools like UVA and Duke. Intern Joined: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 15 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0 Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 13 Dec 2012, 07:21 Really appreciate the encouragement, thanks all. Current Student Status: Too close for missiles, switching to guns. Joined: 23 Oct 2012 Posts: 788 Location: United States Schools: Johnson (Cornell) - Class of 2015 WE: Military Officer (Military & Defense) Followers: 17 Kudos [?]: 316 [0], given: 175 Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 13 Dec 2012, 07:33 timbo0205 wrote: Really appreciate the encouragement, thanks all. Also, if you haven't done so already, reach out to the Vets clubs of the schools you're applying to. They're a tremendous resource. Feel free to reach out here too - as someone who's on the tail-end of the Round 1 process, all the sage advice I may have is still fresh in my mind. _________________ Intern Joined: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 15 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0 Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 13 Dec 2012, 08:41 What are your thoughts on how I should explain my GPA? 1. Mention I didn’t have a clear career vision at that time. However, I am now focused and motivated due to X, Y, and Z. 2. I wanted to carry over my leadership/teamwork experience from the CG and focused my time on varsity athletics, coaching, etc. 3. Combination of the two? Thanks for the insight. Current Student Status: Too close for missiles, switching to guns. Joined: 23 Oct 2012 Posts: 788 Location: United States Schools: Johnson (Cornell) - Class of 2015 WE: Military Officer (Military & Defense) Followers: 17 Kudos [?]: 316 [0], given: 175 Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 13 Dec 2012, 10:32 timbo0205 wrote: What are your thoughts on how I should explain my GPA? 2. I wanted to carry over my leadership/teamwork experience from the CG and focused my time on varsity athletics, coaching, etc. I would go with Number 2. Being a varsity athlete is a legitimate reason your grades may have taken a hit, and B-schools like varsity athletes. The important thing is to not make excuses, explain the cirbumstances in a brief and direct manner and move on. The important thing is to show the adcom that you can handle the rigors of B-school, and one of the best ways to do that is to get a good GMAT score, particularly on the quant section. _________________ Current Student Status: Too close for missiles, switching to guns. Joined: 23 Oct 2012 Posts: 788 Location: United States Schools: Johnson (Cornell) - Class of 2015 WE: Military Officer (Military & Defense) Followers: 17 Kudos [?]: 316 [0], given: 175 Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 20 Dec 2012, 06:10 Well now that the Round 1 dust has settled, how'd we do? I wouldn't call a ding, two waitlists, and one acceptance a rousing success, but I'm excited that I got into one of my top four (didn't have any Round 2 schools picked out), and most importantly, I won't be writing any essays over the holidays or have to bug my recommenders! Looks like I'm headed to Johnson in the fall (unless Tuck takes me from the waitlist). Anyone else make decisions yet? (Except you Mappleby, we know you're headed to Columbia - congrats on that by the way!) I can shed some light on the interview process/what to expect on the schools I applied to if anybody wants to hit me up during Round 2. _________________ Intern Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Posts: 15 Followers: 1 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0 Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] ### Show Tags 23 Dec 2012, 18:23 Received several offers, but will likely enroll at Tuck--small, intimate classes, very family friendly (already have kids), and it helps they put$\$ on the table. Any other future Tuckies out there?

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Choice keeps getting tougher.
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26 Dec 2012, 13:51
Good choices to have. Darden is well established but Yale has a great up and coming program. I've also heard the Yale undergrad network is very supportive of Yale SOM graduates which gives you access to a really strong network.
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28 Dec 2012, 18:27
I am still a year out from applying to schools but have a question about the GI Bill. I did ROTC but did not take a scholarship, does anyone know if my 3 year active duty obligation will count towards meeting the GI Bill service requirements since I did not receive any financial help during school. Thanks!
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28 Dec 2012, 19:24
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I am still a year out from applying to schools but have a question about the GI Bill. I did ROTC but did not take a scholarship, does anyone know if my 3 year active duty obligation will count towards meeting the GI Bill service requirements since I did not receive any financial help during school. Thanks!

It should. The best way to verify this is to go to the VA website and request your letter of eligibility. That should confirm what % of the GI bill you're eligible for.
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29 Dec 2012, 07:19
langaroo wrote:
I am still a year out from applying to schools but have a question about the GI Bill. I did ROTC but did not take a scholarship, does anyone know if my 3 year active duty obligation will count towards meeting the GI Bill service requirements since I did not receive any financial help during school. Thanks!

If you didn't take any scholarship money you should be considered pretty much the same as an OCS officer, which means 3 years of active duty time will give you 100%. When you contact the VA, make sure the "no scholarship" part is very clear....you don't want them seeing ROTC listed as your commissioning source and assuming that you had to pay back the 4 year obligation.
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