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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2012, 09:25
Hey guys,

I have a quick question for some of you. I'm also a military applicant and am probably going to be applying this season (may push it to 2014 class depending on my GMAT Score).

I'm going to start studying for the gmat this month. I have a somewhat different background in the military. I served 5 years total enlisted (37 months active, 24 months drilling reserves while in college) and have since commissioned as a Naval Officer. I'll probably have two years of commissioned service for a total of five active and 7 years total service if I separate this coming May. My problem is I didn't graduate until 24 so I have a lot of experience, but I'm not sure if the schools will even count my enlisted experience because I wasn't post bachelors yet. My transcripts shows LOA's for military service and part time schooling when I was active.

I have a strong GPA from a state school with a degree in Finance. I'm going to use my GI bill and yellow ribbon since I have two years of it left. I'm worried I'm going to have to go to entry level finance jobs and work my way back up before applying to MBA programs. I don't want to go outside of the top 50 schools because I want to maximize my GI bill. No point in wasting it.

Do you any of you think my situation will hurt me? FWIW, I had a strong record of enlisted service (2 dets overseas, junior NCO of the year, #1 of XXX fitreps, etc...).

I was in flight school but got disqualified for a medical issue. With the draw down, they're really not reassigning junior Officers. TBH, I think it's just my time to move careers.

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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2012, 19:12
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Hey guys,

I have a quick question for some of you. I'm also a military applicant and am probably going to be applying this season (may push it to 2014 class depending on my GMAT Score).

I'm going to start studying for the gmat this month. I have a somewhat different background in the military. I served 5 years total enlisted (37 months active, 24 months drilling reserves while in college) and have since commissioned as a Naval Officer. I'll probably have two years of commissioned service for a total of five active and 7 years total service if I separate this coming May. My problem is I didn't graduate until 24 so I have a lot of experience, but I'm not sure if the schools will even count my enlisted experience because I wasn't post bachelors yet. My transcripts shows LOA's for military service and part time schooling when I was active.

I have a strong GPA from a state school with a degree in Finance. I'm going to use my GI bill and yellow ribbon since I have two years of it left. I'm worried I'm going to have to go to entry level finance jobs and work my way back up before applying to MBA programs. I don't want to go outside of the top 50 schools because I want to maximize my GI bill. No point in wasting it.

Do you any of you think my situation will hurt me? FWIW, I had a strong record of enlisted service (2 dets overseas, junior NCO of the year, #1 of XXX fitreps, etc...).

I was in flight school but got disqualified for a medical issue. With the draw down, they're really not reassigning junior Officers. TBH, I think it's just my time to move careers.

Thanks.


Experience is experience regardless of whether it's enlisted or commissioned or whether it's before or after undergrad. Two guys in my HBS class did their bachelor degrees after finishing their enlisted time so their "work experience" was made up entirely of stuff they did before college. Definitely mention your enlisted time on your resume and in your essays since it sounds like it was more significant than your commissioned time, both in terms of duration and the experiences you'll be able to talk about.

Don't feel like you have to apologize for the med discharge or anything like that. I know of at least one vet in my class who left active duty prior to finishing his initial commitment due to a training-related injury. That stuff happens.
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2012, 23:24
Thanks for all the great replies. Goes a long way in clearing my dilemma.

Since I got so many great responses I am gonna ask some more questions.

The application says to list each employer only once even if one has served multiple positions under the employer and explain the positions in resume.

So do we list Army as single employer and explain various positions in different units in resume or do we list employer as each unit I have served in and then explain various positions in each unit in the resume?? basic question is my employer army or my unit?? seems a bit silly but would be great if somebody could clear this up.

Secondly, after my graduation, I went to training academy for officer training for one year. do we count the one year training in our experience?? I am asking this because my classmates in corporate add training in their respective firm before starting work in their experience.

Any views would help!!!
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2012, 15:33
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2012, 16:10
I'm not real sure how the Army works, but I know a CO can extend you (especially if you have IRR time left) if he deems you mission essential to make you deploy with them. I know it sucks but there isn't really much you can do. Your CO will have to sign your resignation so you're in a tough position. Try talking to them and explaining why you would like to get out.

Just wondering, if you were planning on leaving, why did you PCS?
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2012, 16:19
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2012, 22:26
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I'm getting some pushback from my battalion commander on my REFRAD. I was wondering if anyone has run into similar issues with getting the mandatory counseling from their battalion and brigade commanders.

I PCS'd to my unit at the end of summer and promptly submitted my REFRAD. I've jumped through all the hurdles so far and just need the counselings from my battalion and brigade commanders before I can move forward. The problem is that my battalion commander has cancelled our meeting twice, yelled at me for even coming to the unit, and wants me to postpone my plans to get out to deploy with the unit in 9 months.

Anyone have any advice on how much he can interfere with this process? I'd hate to think I've spent so much time on my applications so far to be yanked around by one individual.


Technically speaking in the Army you don't even need your battalion commander to counsel you for the refrad process to go forward. By regulation, you only need the first O6 in your chain of command, which would be the BDE commander. If your BN Cdr is really giving you the run around, I'd use the open door policy to talk to him about it. If that doesn't work, let him know you need to exercise the same policy to speak with the BDE Cdr. Hopefully it won't come to that, but you can't let a domineering field grade officer crush your career and educational prospects.

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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2012, 04:12
Another reminder about HBS's Military Prospective Students' Day--registration here: https://hbs.askadmissions.net/Portal/EI ... 0a1acaa9de

It's a great way to spend a day on campus and get some firsthand observations about HBS in particular or business school life in general. A lot of the stuff we'll cover about admissions, finaid, recruiting, etc. will be applicable for any school, and the presentations are geared specifically towards military applicants. Plus you'll have access to about 40-50 of our current veteran students so you'll have opportunities to ask questions about anything on your mind.
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2012, 04:16
What are your guys opinion on school rank vs area you want to live post grad? Just curious. Are you trying to settle somewhere or are you still somewhat mobile?
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2012, 07:50
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What are your guys opinion on school rank vs area you want to live post grad? Just curious. Are you trying to settle somewhere or are you still somewhat mobile?


Personally my opinion is go to the best school you can get into regardless of location. I would prefer to not spend my career in NYC but I'm applying early decision to Columbia because I think as a top tier school it will open the most doors into the career field I want. I will worry about location as a secondary issue, for me the doors that open from being in the best program possible is more than worth the location trade-off.
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2012, 11:24
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What are your guys opinion on school rank vs area you want to live post grad? Just curious. Are you trying to settle somewhere or are you still somewhat mobile?


Personally my opinion is go to the best school you can get into regardless of location. I would prefer to not spend my career in NYC but I'm applying early decision to Columbia because I think as a top tier school it will open the most doors into the career field I want. I will worry about location as a secondary issue, for me the doors that open from being in the best program possible is more than worth the location trade-off.

That's what I figured. I really like USC because of the program in real estate and the network in SOCAL. I want to settle in Orange County with my wife and raise my family there when that time comes. The problem is my GI bill will pay full tuition at higher ranked schools. USC would cost me 40k or so total out of pocket after YR and VA payments. I could (theoretically and depending on where I can get accepted) go to Michigan, Virgina or Texas for free (Top choices) or any UC school like Irvine. I'm still in the early research stages but just wanted to get your guys opinions. I don't have kids yet so I'm thinking my wife and I won't have as much trouble moving and being away from our families (her's in Socal, mine in Hawaii) while I'm in school. I'm also really interested in the UT energy finance concentration. Thanks for listening to my rambling.
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2012, 12:14
Never thought of UCLA. Looking into now.
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2012, 12:19
Higher ranked than USC, less expensive, GI Bill goes further, further reaching brand outside of Southern California.

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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2012, 14:39
Attention brother officers!!!

Most of you might know this beforehand but I came to know this just now. Hence i am posting this for benefit of everyone.

If you are active duty Defense personnel you do not have to pay admission fee for duke, Kellogg and London business school. Duke and kellogg will need you to get in touch with admission committee for the fee waiver and send them a copy of your military identification. LBS just need you to select operation MBA in fee waiver drop-down menu.

Any other schools that provide fee waiver may please be indicated by those who come across such offers.

Applicants of Duke ED and Kellogg round 1 please hurry as very less days are left for you to claim the waiver!!

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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2012, 08:29
You can add Columbia to that list as well.
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Sep 2012, 12:18
Gentlemen some more cheer to go around!!

MIT Sloan also waives the fee for active duty military applicants!!


come on guys!! the thread is dying!! I know everybody is busy in applications so am I!! but dats an excuse civilians can make !! we were brought up to juggle responsibilities and create time!!

Lets try to make this thread more lively!!
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 19 Sep 2012, 11:11
Does anyone know whether or not the Post-9/11 GI Bill will cover test prep courses? I took a course with Kaplan, and I called the VA and Kaplan and neither seem to know for sure. I'm getting the run around, but if I could get use the GI bill to pay for Kaplan's $1400 tuition that would be sweet! Thanks
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 19 Sep 2012, 17:17
hey

Anybody has any idea as to whether cornell gives fee waivers to military applicants??? till now MIT, Kellogg, LBS, Duke and Darden have come through with fee waivers!!

and yah I have used 3 posts now for these fee waivers!! If its helping please gimme a kudo so that I continue posting these waivers!! at my end it seems I am benefiting nobody!!! :(
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Re: Calling all US Military Fall 2013 Applicants! [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2012, 04:45
Gents,

While I'm smart enough to realize that I'm not going to get into any ultra-elite/elite schools, I'd like to throw out my profile and see if you think I'm aiming about right.

Profile: 620(38V/36Q)/2.6 from Top 5 public school/Army Captain/3 Afghan deployments (total 30 months)/7 years WE at matriculation

R1 I'm applying to:
Olin (Washington)
Fordham GBS
McDonough (Georgetown)
Smith (Maryland)
Rutgers
George Washington

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
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