2positive wrote:
So by now I've read all TBD advice and reports I could find. Looks like in many cases the whole team does well, everyone is friendly and collaborative and provides decent comments etc. It's not clear to me how admissions officers ding 50-60% of applicants in these cases. Even if there is some small difference in performance between candidates, it is obviously often marginal compared to difference in experience etc.
So (IMHO) either there is simply a lot of randomness as much weight is put on a noisy low resolution data of performance on TBD (or opinion of admissions officer about this performance)
Or admissions officer is looking at something more subtle, that people who write reports or advice don't really understand.
Or, not much weight is put on the TBD as long as some minimum threshold performance is demonstrated, and success is determined by other factors.
You raise very valid points. As someone who was invited to the TBD and PI but dinged later, I felt that my TBD was good, I participated, brought my ideas forward, summarized a part of it at the end (to give everyone some speaking time) and PI was a short 10 minute conversation (was able to answer all questions properly). I dont think TBD+PI is used as a marker to select people. It is more of a filtering mechanism to eliminate candidates who can not play well in a team based setting. PI was too short to have much of a value. I wasnt asked any TBD based reflection question, which was weird IMO.So the final decision does rest with the adcom member who has reviewed your application to invite you for the TBD/PI and who will again review your application one final time with TBD+PI feedback received from the admission officers.
There always will be some sort of subjective analysis of any application. 2 different admission officers might have a different take on the same application. So you need to play your cards correctly and hope that your application stands out to any reader who reads it. There is no set formula or subtleness that adcoms are looking for but apart from
1. Academic excellence
2. Extra curriculars
3. Community involvement
4. TBD+PI
5. Diversity of the class (ethnicity, industry, function, country etc). This last factor is heavily linked to the pre-application cycle decision of the admissions committee on how many students from a particular pool (lets say Indian engineers or US investment bankers) to accommodate based on past data of their school. Also, this is a factor that you can not do anything about but to make sure that you put in your best application forward.
Good luck with the TBD+PI.
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