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# Calling Columbia applicants for 2008

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CEO
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Yes I heard that it will be a lot more competitive this year. To be honest I prefer a smaller class size.

Ozmba2006 wrote:
bsd_lover wrote:
I am applying for the January start program. Do I still count ?

I guess you are aware that this year J-term ,will be 2 batches instead of 3...

So i am yet to decided about the J-term!
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Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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Location: Ann Arbor
Schools: Ross '10
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Essay Topic Analysis [#permalink]  25 Jul 2007, 17:57
Columbia essay topic analysis from clear admit

Essay 1: What are your short-term and long-term post-MBA goals? How will Columbia Business School help you achieve these goals? (Recommended 750 word limit)

Because Columbia is very sensitive to the fact that it is often treated as a backup for Wharton and other leading programs, it’s especially important to convince the adcom of your interest in the program by packing your essay full of school-specific details about classes and clubs.

Essay 2: In a recent speech delivered to the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business, Dean Glenn Hubbard discussed the new, essential elements of the 21st century MBA. How will your MBA prepare you for a rapidly changing business environment? (Recommended 500 word limit)

In a way, this question is similar to last year’s Harvard question about the sorts of ethical dilemmas that the applicant would face in the future; both invite reflection on future considerations and challenges. Though not explicitly stated in Columbia’s question, it would make sense to personalize your response by touching upon some of the points raised in Dean Hubbard’s speech and commenting on how an MBA education would come to bear in one’s future career as set forth in the first essay. While you’ll want to show that you’ve read the dean’s comments (Columbia provides that URL for a reason), don’t be afraid to introduce some ideas of your own as well. This essay could also be a great place to name some courses or curricular features that apply to one’s goals and/or anticipated changes in the global business landscape.

Essay 3: The entrepreneurial mindset is an integral component of the Columbia Business School MBA. Please discuss a time in your own life when you have identified and captured an opportunity (Recommended 500 word limit).

Essay 4: Please tell us about what you feel most passionate in life (Recommended 250 word limit).

This question is nothing new for Columbia, though in the past applicants have had the option to answer a question about how they would spend a free day instead. Both questions provide the chance for the candidate to share information about his or her interests and priorities, but this one is notably narrower, requesting a discussion of the applicant’s greatest passion. It’s possible that a dual focus could be introduced, but this could prove difficult given the 250 word limit.

While it’s important to write about something that you are truly passionate about, it’s also important to approach this essay from a strategic standpoint and write about something that is relevant to your business school candidacy. While your hobbies and interests are certainly of interest to the adcom, it’s important to avoid getting too personal. For instance, writing about one’s family can make an applicant sound immature (as though he or she hasn’t fully left the nest), and it’s difficult to predict how a reader will react to comments on potentially sensitive topics like politics or religion.

The best topics for this essay are activities and interests that you can connect to some contribution you would make to the school community, ideally those in which you are currently active and to which you have a long-standing commitment. Although it is good to keep in mind that more unusual activities are advantageous, you don’t need to have something that is really rare for this essay to succeed. It is more important to discuss what you do in a compelling and personal manner that conveys the depth of your enthusiasm for your topic by exploring your individual experiences. Finally, remember that specific anecdotes will make a greater impression on your reader than a broad discussion.
CEO
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Kudos [?]: 467 [0], given: 210

For those applying for J-Term, note that the essay #2 has been changed for ED.
Director
Joined: 13 Mar 2007
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Schools: MIT Sloan
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I remember a previous conversation on this forum. Technically, you can choose not to "Honor" the commitment by declining the offer. But there is a possible down side.

Eventhough Columbia hasn't black balled anyone so far for refusing to adhere to the ED guidelines, it may be done in the future. Add to this, you stand to lose $6000. I personally would be very uncomfortable doing it. Why not wait until RD starts? Hi Prasad, what exactly do you mean by black balled? what might be the consequences ? just wondering .. Manager Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 192 Followers: 2 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0 [#permalink] 25 Jul 2007, 22:27 djhouse81 wrote: No, I did not. Did you? If so, what did you think of the interview? Yeah, I did. I think my interview went really well. In fact, the interviewer strongly encouraged me to get in touch with AdCom, and express my strong interest in Columbia. The interview was in NYC with a 05 grad. It was fairly relaxed and up-beat. The guy works for a hedge fund and was extremely smart. However, I did not get any feedback session, which really bummed me off. CL is my top choice and a feedback session would have been great. But oh well, am ready to roll the dice one more time. Last edited by DJM on 26 Jul 2007, 00:27, edited 1 time in total. SVP Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 1560 Location: Ann Arbor Schools: Ross '10 Followers: 13 Kudos [?]: 169 [0], given: 1 [#permalink] 25 Jul 2007, 22:36 Submitting an application for ED and not honoring the admission, demonstrates questionable ethics and possible lack of integrity. What if CBS decides to share information about such applicants with other schools. The applicant can get blacklisted. I dont think CBS does this today, but by not honoring a contract applicants are in danger of being denied admission at other schools. Anyways, my take is that if some one does not really want to attend CBS, they are better off applying during RD than ED. grad_mba wrote: ncprasad wrote: I remember a previous conversation on this forum. Technically, you can choose not to "Honor" the commitment by declining the offer. But there is a possible down side. Eventhough Columbia hasn't black balled anyone so far for refusing to adhere to the ED guidelines, it may be done in the future. Add to this, you stand to lose$6000. I personally would be very uncomfortable doing it. Why not wait until RD starts?

Hi Prasad, what exactly do you mean by black balled? what might be the consequences ? just wondering ..
SVP
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Submitting an application for ED and not honoring the admission, demonstrates questionable ethics and possible lack of integrity.

What if CBS decides to share information about such applicants with other schools. The applicant can get blacklisted. I dont think CBS does this today, but by not honoring a contract applicants are in danger of being denied admission at other schools.

Anyways, my take is that if some one does not really want to attend CBS, they are better off applying during RD than ED.

I remember a previous conversation on this forum. Technically, you can choose not to "Honor" the commitment by declining the offer. But there is a possible down side.

Eventhough Columbia hasn't black balled anyone so far for refusing to adhere to the ED guidelines, it may be done in the future. Add to this, you stand to lose \$6000. I personally would be very uncomfortable doing it. Why not wait until RD starts?

Hi Prasad, what exactly do you mean by black balled? what might be the consequences ? just wondering ..

Not to mention screwing over people who would honor the ED acceptance.
Senior Manager
Joined: 30 May 2007
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Kudos [?]: 69 [0], given: 0

DJM wrote:
djhouse81 wrote:
No, I did not. Did you? If so, what did you think of the interview?

Yeah, I did. I think my interview went really well. In fact, the interviewer strongly encouraged me to get in touch with AdCom, and express my strong interest in Columbia.

The interview was in NYC with a 05 grad. It was fairly relaxed and up-beat. The guy works for a hedge fund and was extremely smart.

However, I did not get any feedback session, which really bummed me off. CL is my top choice and a feedback session would have been great. But oh well, am ready to roll the dice one more time.

I wouldn't sweat not getting feedback; the fact that you got an interivew says a lot about your application--considering the applicant pool. By the way, did you visit the school before the interview? Did you ever end up getting in contact with someone from the school? From what I hear-- and this is coming from a current Columbia student who got in with a 690, 3.0 GPA, and solid work experience--they particularly like to see you put forth a genuine effort in getting to know the school. That does not mean that is the magic admission potion, but with a competitive school like Columbia it could make all the difference.
Current Student
Joined: 17 May 2007
Posts: 385
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Kudos [?]: 7 [0], given: 0

In the Employment History part of the application, there's a non-required field for "Salary PIN". What is this? Google tells me nothing and my HR group has never heard of such a thing.
Senior Manager
Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 407
Followers: 4

Kudos [?]: 35 [0], given: 11

Sending in your transcripts or using the self-reporting Excel file? My understanding that it's an 'either or' option. However, in theory it would be much better to send in the actual transcript to avoid any complications?

Has anybody decided how to define entrepreneurship for Essay 3?
Current Student
Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Posts: 140
Location: New Delhi
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Kudos [?]: 3 [0], given: 0

Read about what Dean Glenn Hubbard has to say in his speech...you will find the "Columbia" definition of entrepreneurship there....
CEO
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Kudos [?]: 467 [0], given: 210

I had the same problem. My course was not an option in the excel template and my undergrad grading system doesnt fit too well either. So I e-mailed columbia about it and they asked me to just fax the real transcript instead.

Sending in your transcripts or using the self-reporting Excel file? My understanding that it's an 'either or' option. However, in theory it would be much better to send in the actual transcript to avoid any complications?

Has anybody decided how to define entrepreneurship for Essay 3?
Senior Manager
Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 407
Followers: 4

Kudos [?]: 35 [0], given: 11

bsd_lover wrote:

I had the same problem. My course was not an option in the excel template and my undergrad grading system doesnt fit too well either. So I e-mailed columbia about it and they asked me to just fax the real transcript instead.

Sending in your transcripts or using the self-reporting Excel file? My understanding that it's an 'either or' option. However, in theory it would be much better to send in the actual transcript to avoid any complications?

Has anybody decided how to define entrepreneurship for Essay 3?

You're from Australia right? Sorry, I can't really remember

Fax? I was told to send the originals. I'm thinking it's better to send the originals because sooner or later I would have to send them for verification when I'm accepted?
CEO
Joined: 17 May 2007
Posts: 2994
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Kudos [?]: 467 [0], given: 210

Yeah thats correct, I am from Australia

I guess I will need to send them an original eventually. I will probably make a full "pack" and courier it along once I have it all ready.

For now, still grinding through those essays ...

bsd_lover wrote:

I had the same problem. My course was not an option in the excel template and my undergrad grading system doesnt fit too well either. So I e-mailed columbia about it and they asked me to just fax the real transcript instead.

Sending in your transcripts or using the self-reporting Excel file? My understanding that it's an 'either or' option. However, in theory it would be much better to send in the actual transcript to avoid any complications?

Has anybody decided how to define entrepreneurship for Essay 3?

You're from Australia right? Sorry, I can't really remember

Fax? I was told to send the originals. I'm thinking it's better to send the originals because sooner or later I would have to send them for verification when I'm accepted?
Manager
Joined: 30 Jul 2007
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Kudos [?]: 12 [0], given: 0

I did my undergrad in Lebanon and my grad work in Canada. Both institutions have different grading systems. Columbia is requesting applicants to do the conversion themselves. Well, an 80% at one institution isn't the same as an 80% at another. I think Columbia is the only school that is requesting this. And it seems pretty stupid. I am contemplating not even applying just for their approach to the matter.

Do any of you have any opinions on the matter?
Senior Manager
Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 407
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Kudos [?]: 35 [0], given: 11

I'm sweating it out over Columbia's Essay 2 - the Dean Glenn Hubbard speech... everything else has been drafted and is currently being fine tuned, but i'm hitting a road block here..
Manager
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0

havent heard anything on this tread for a while. Just wanted to check-in and see how everyone is doing?

Review for ED starts in 9 days....and it feels like such a short time with so many things to cover.

I am a re-applicant, so I just have one essay, but I am still stressing. Am about 70% done with my first draft, which means I am about 40% done with the entire process!

Hope others are doing better than me.
Current Student
Joined: 22 Apr 2007
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I've written one essay (And I think I'll have to redo it). Working on the essay about 21st century MBA. I don't think I'll be done before the end of the month. I am spending very little time on the essays every day.
Senior Manager
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What 21st century mba essay are you doing!?

I don't remember any of the topics talking about a 21st century MBA... have they changed the questions again?

Current Student
Joined: 22 Apr 2007
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In a recent speech delivered to the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business, Dean Glenn Hubbard discussed the new, essential elements of the 21st century MBA. How will your MBA prepare you for a rapidly changing business environment (Recommended 500 word limit)?

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