Find all School-related info fast with the new School-Specific MBA Forum

It is currently 27 Aug 2014, 13:04

Close

GMAT Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

Events & Promotions

Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

Calling Columbia applicants for 2008

  Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  
Author Message
TAGS:
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
User avatar
Status: Um... what do you want to know?
Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 5464
Location: SF, CA, USA
Schools: UC Berkeley Haas School of Business MBA 2010
WE 1: Social Gaming
Followers: 64

Kudos [?]: 333 [0], given: 14

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 11 Sep 2007, 15:40
NC, can I get you NOT to apply to UCLA then? :wink:
Director
Director
User avatar
Joined: 24 Apr 2007
Posts: 589
Followers: 3

Kudos [?]: 17 [0], given: 0

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 11 Sep 2007, 16:03
ncprasad wrote:
Dabots, River, Dosa, Bherronp...et al, I am talking to YOU. Dont apply to Ross. Its a really bad school. Mrs.mNeo said that their alumni are boring. Surely, you guys are not boring. So WHY are you applying?

:evil:


Hah, nice try. I really like what I have heard about Ross so far. The only concern I have is whether my wife can find a job in the area. Hopefully her company will let her work remote while I am in school, though the odds are not good.
Manager
Manager
User avatar
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 192
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0

 [#permalink] New post 11 Sep 2007, 17:40
So, another person reported of receiving an interview invite on BW forums. looks like things have finally started to simmer for the ED applicants.
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
User avatar
Joined: 30 May 2007
Posts: 496
Followers: 7

Kudos [?]: 69 [0], given: 0

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 07:11
I went to the CBS Info Session in Miami last night, and it was pretty informative. There was a lot of local alumni there, all of whom are already tremendously successful!

The adcom who was there did tell us that if your recommender(s) ask you to write your recommendation, you either did not give them enough lead time or you should not use them. He says that he busts people all the time because after reading thousands upon thousands of essays and recs, he can pick up on peoples' writing styles precisely. To remedy this situation, he said, make sure you give your recommender two months notice, if possible, and give them an outline of your achievements. They don't have a problem with you giving input, as long as the recommender writes the rec.

Also, I spoke with a lot of the prospectives and surprisingly a lot of them seemed behind the 8-ball. For example, some still have not taken the GMAT, and there were even a lot of recent college grads! I hope this bodes well for us.

Congrats to those who have submitted their app already! Mine is about a week or two away from completion.
Current Student
avatar
Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 981
Location: Hong Kong
Concentration: Finance, Economics
Schools: HKUST MBA - Class of 2014
GMAT 1: 740 Q48 V44
GPA: 3.2
WE: Consulting (Consulting)
Followers: 9

Kudos [?]: 45 [0], given: 8

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 15:29
Hijacking the thread here for a moment.
Both my recommenders sent me their copies as a pdf document for me to read after I had sent out my columbia recommendations yesterday by mail. They wanted me to know what they had written (even though I had created outlines and drafts for them in the first place)

1. They used their own material and not my draft - which is good.

2. One senior recommender's letter was tempered and used adjectives like well, good, nice, while the other recommender with whom I have worked more often and professionally quite close has used a plethora of adjectives as exemplary, excellent and extremely (she used extremely 3 times in 3 different questions - extremely enthusiastic, extremely positive attitude and extremely high standards). That got me worried.

The balance between the 2 letters is a bit screwed.. Is that something the ad-com is going to notice?? and would they notice the liberal use of the word extremely??? The only advantage I can think of is that the recommender loves using the word extremely and it shows up in the letter as her own writing style.

Any comments on this.
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
User avatar
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Posts: 4320
Location: Back in Chicago, IL
Schools: Kellogg Alum: Class of 2010
Followers: 78

Kudos [?]: 692 [0], given: 5

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 15:40
ncprasad wrote:
Dabots, River, Dosa, Bherronp...et al, I am talking to YOU. Dont apply to Ross. Its a really bad school. Mrs.mNeo said that their alumni are boring. Surely, you guys are not boring. So WHY are you applying?

:evil:


Don't worry my wife wont be able to find a job in the area so that immediately knocks it out of contention.
Current Student
User avatar
Joined: 22 Apr 2007
Posts: 1097
Followers: 5

Kudos [?]: 21 [0], given: 0

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 16:15
I received a packet from my ex-colleague. It had a print-out of my essays, and her comments on almost every line. Her comments are just beautiful .. and make me realize how lacking my essays really are. Unfortunately her comments reached me a few days too late.

So count me out of running for Columbia :( . Now I know that if Columbia admits me, then that would be despite my essays. Well, the good news is that I can incorporate her suggestions for W/S much earlier.
Current Student
avatar
Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 981
Location: Hong Kong
Concentration: Finance, Economics
Schools: HKUST MBA - Class of 2014
GMAT 1: 740 Q48 V44
GPA: 3.2
WE: Consulting (Consulting)
Followers: 9

Kudos [?]: 45 [0], given: 8

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 16:23
Not necessarily.....

This is the ED round. I bet most applicants will be in the same boat as you or me. The more our essays get reviewed the better they become.

You will be better prepared for the next school. But so will be the others

Using my CR skills.

ps.. somebody please comment on my recommendation dilemma.. I am chewing my finger nails.
Manager
Manager
User avatar
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 192
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0

 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 16:50
aviroop wrote:
ps.. somebody please comment on my recommendation dilemma.. I am chewing my finger nails.


Aviroop, I think you are ok. The AD knows that applicants typically have very little control over their recs. I think you are in a much better position than someone whose reces soundsed a whole lot similar.

The most important thing is for few key ideas to get across: leadership, managerial, etc. etc.

So, I wouldnt sweat it. Plus, there is not much you can do about it anyways.
SVP
SVP
User avatar
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 1560
Location: Ann Arbor
Schools: Ross '10
Followers: 12

Kudos [?]: 161 [0], given: 1

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 17:40
riverripper wrote:
ncprasad wrote:
Dabots, River, Dosa, Bherronp...et al, I am talking to YOU. Dont apply to Ross. Its a really bad school. Mrs.mNeo said that their alumni are boring. Surely, you guys are not boring. So WHY are you applying?

:evil:


Don't worry my wife wont be able to find a job in the area so that immediately knocks it out of contention.


1 down. 2 to go.

dabots, dosa : Give it up. I am the borg... Resistance is futile... You... will be assimilated.
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
User avatar
Joined: 30 May 2007
Posts: 496
Followers: 7

Kudos [?]: 69 [0], given: 0

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 19:43
aviroop wrote:
Not necessarily.....

This is the ED round. I bet most applicants will be in the same boat as you or me. The more our essays get reviewed the better they become.

You will be better prepared for the next school. But so will be the others

Using my CR skills.

ps.. somebody please comment on my recommendation dilemma.. I am chewing my finger nails.



Aviroop,

What about the content? Temperate or not, do they go into detail about you, and how comprehensive is that detail? "Good" and "nice" are fine if they are used as follows (I do not know what you do, so this is hypothetical):

"Aviroop's interpersonal skills are good. In our line of business we do not need the greatest communication skills, but Aviroop certainly has those skills. He is extremely well-spoken in meetings with executives, he is a extremely well-liked amongst his peers, and he communicates tasks extremely well to his subordinates."

Suddenly "good" becomes great without even using that word. Now if the recommender uses "good" as follows then you might want to head that recommender off at the pass:

"Aviroop's interpersonal skills are good. He works well with his peers, subordinates, and supervisors. Were the tables turned, I would enjoy working for Aviroop."

That is a short and not sweet answer to an entire CBS rec question. "Good" is not so good anymore. There was no meat to that recommendation. At that point, the adcom is going to look to the other rec and other areas of your app to balance that, as opposed to that rec being a strong point.

My guess, I think you are good to go. Both recommenders cared enough to show it to you, and that is a good sign. Plus you picked up on their writing style; it is hard to get a sense of writing style when it is bland. Keep the faith!
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
User avatar
Joined: 30 May 2007
Posts: 496
Followers: 7

Kudos [?]: 69 [0], given: 0

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 20:07
mNeo wrote:
I received a packet from my ex-colleague. It had a print-out of my essays, and her comments on almost every line. Her comments are just beautiful .. and make me realize how lacking my essays really are. Unfortunately her comments reached me a few days too late.

So count me out of running for Columbia :( . Now I know that if Columbia admits me, then that would be despite my essays. Well, the good news is that I can incorporate her suggestions for W/S much earlier.


Don't count yourself out until you are out. One of my frat bros, an HBS grad, sent in three apps: H/S/K. Dinged at Stanford and Kellogg before he heard back from Harvard. He though, "Crap, I am not getting in anywhere, Harvard was my first and worst app!" All I have to say is, little did he know.

Since then he has pulled out the proverbial red pen on my essays, but considering he graduated from HBS, I think it is in my best interest to take his suggestions.
Current Student
avatar
Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 981
Location: Hong Kong
Concentration: Finance, Economics
Schools: HKUST MBA - Class of 2014
GMAT 1: 740 Q48 V44
GPA: 3.2
WE: Consulting (Consulting)
Followers: 9

Kudos [?]: 45 [0], given: 8

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 20:11
djhouse.
Thank you for the comments.

Both recommenders, especially my senior manager backed up every sentence with an example.

He started writing .Aviroop displayed solid team-skills,, blah blah.. by working late on projects, helping team -mates carry out admin tasks.. (routine stuff).
He talked about stuff I did at work..

Same for my other recommender..

Both used examples, plenty of them, to back up every of their adjectives.
I am thankful of that, except my prior concern was the overuse of adjectives.
You have cleared all my issues with your post.

Both did what was asked - in terms of giving examples and not routine bland statements with tons of adjectives that are not backed up with proof.
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
User avatar
Status: Um... what do you want to know?
Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 5464
Location: SF, CA, USA
Schools: UC Berkeley Haas School of Business MBA 2010
WE 1: Social Gaming
Followers: 64

Kudos [?]: 333 [0], given: 14

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2007, 23:28
sounds like you're fine Avi... I think it's the examples that count, not which adjectives they use. As long as they quantify your results some how (top 5%, best I've ever seen, etc...).
Current Student
User avatar
Joined: 07 Aug 2007
Posts: 1062
Followers: 4

Kudos [?]: 30 [0], given: 0

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2007, 04:59
Nc...I wish I could drop Ross but I am not really afraid of borg's.... :P

And its a desi friendly school- maybe the two of us can get in anyways. Dabots wont be coming to Ross as he will get into a higher ranked school :)
Current Student
avatar
Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 981
Location: Hong Kong
Concentration: Finance, Economics
Schools: HKUST MBA - Class of 2014
GMAT 1: 740 Q48 V44
GPA: 3.2
WE: Consulting (Consulting)
Followers: 9

Kudos [?]: 45 [0], given: 8

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2007, 10:05
submitted my application today. submitted first, then paid by credit card.. refreshed the page 3 times in 5 minutes out of anxiety...

1 done 4 more to go
Current Student
User avatar
Joined: 22 Apr 2007
Posts: 1097
Followers: 5

Kudos [?]: 21 [0], given: 0

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2007, 10:15
Congrats avi. Join the anxious "Ctrl-F5" team.

Last edited by mNeo on 13 Sep 2007, 10:28, edited 1 time in total.
SVP
SVP
User avatar
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 1560
Location: Ann Arbor
Schools: Ross '10
Followers: 12

Kudos [?]: 161 [0], given: 1

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2007, 10:18
avi, congratulations. Now the nail biting begins...
Director
Director
User avatar
Joined: 13 Mar 2007
Posts: 550
Schools: MIT Sloan
Followers: 4

Kudos [?]: 14 [0], given: 0

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2007, 10:20
Ok I am extremely frustrated and feeling totally helpless !
The only thing that is delaying my submission is my 2nd reco. Gave the pointers 1.5 months ago, reminded every two weeks and still nothing's done :(
Seriously, at this point I have no clue as to how to proceed. Well figured the forum would be the best place for me to vent my frustration.

God help me.
SVP
SVP
User avatar
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 1560
Location: Ann Arbor
Schools: Ross '10
Followers: 12

Kudos [?]: 161 [0], given: 1

GMAT Tests User
 [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2007, 10:22
grad, check politely if he has second thoughts. ALso, see if you can line up another recommender.
  [#permalink] 13 Sep 2007, 10:22
    Similar topics Author Replies Last post
Similar
Topics:
5 Calling Darden 2008 Applicants nervousgmat 291 15 Aug 2007, 11:26
Calling all Duke 2008 applicants... lanter1 440 08 Aug 2007, 08:30
2 Calling all Cornell 2008 applicants jsnooky33 855 03 Aug 2007, 17:59
68 Calling Chicago GSB 2008 applicants ncp 2680 16 Jul 2007, 22:03
6 Calling UCLA Fall 2008 Applicants kryzak 703 14 Jul 2007, 11:45
Display posts from previous: Sort by

Calling Columbia applicants for 2008

  Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  

Go to page   Previous    1  ...  8   9   10   11   12   13   14  ...  42    Next  [ 836 posts ] 



GMAT Club MBA Forum Home| About| Privacy Policy| Terms and Conditions| GMAT Club Rules| Contact| Sitemap

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group and phpBB SEO

Kindly note that the GMAT® test is a registered trademark of the Graduate Management Admission Council®, and this site has neither been reviewed nor endorsed by GMAC®.