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University of Chicago Booth GSB - Class of 2012 Applicants

R1
Total Applicants: 53
Interview Invites: 28
Admitted: 16 (32%)
WL: 14 (26%)
Dinged: 21 (42%)

JamesT - Int Invite 11/3 ACCEPTED 12/15
latammc - Int Invite 10/26 ACCEPTED 12/15
oomp* - ACCEPTED + $$$ 12/15
BostonArmyGuy - Int Invite 10/30 ACCEPTED 12/15
Dalecooper09 - Int Invite 11/2 ACCEPTED + $$$ 12/15
ChicagoGurl2012 - ACCEPTED + 80k 12/15
PBateman - ACCEPTED 12/15
n8jg4s202** - ACCEPTED 12/15
jankynoname - ACCEPTED 12/15
Zyskind - ACCEPTED 12/15
sapphireka - ACCEPTED + 80k 12/15
davidbrent - ACCEPTED 12/15
swool101** - ACCEPTED + 30k 12/15
2010HereICome - ACCEPTED 12/15
Britguy - ACCEPTED 12/16
SuperDewey - ACCEPTED 12/16


afan - Int Invite 11/10 - WL 12/16ACCEPTED 3/23

snakesonplanes - Int Invite 11/5 - WL 12/16ACCEPTED 3/23
waitinganswers - Int Invite 11/10 - WL 12/16ACCEPTED 3/23
cozmo8* - WL ACCEPTED 3/23
ultraeasy - WL ACCEPTED 3/23
skydiver* - WL ACCEPTED 3/23
outsiderinSA* - WL ACCEPTED 3/23
march1010* - WL ACCEPTED + $$ 3/23

anu1979*[color=#FF8000] - WL[/color] - DING 3/24




cozmo8 - Int Invite 10/27 - WL 12/16
agnes - WL 12/16
topMBAwannabe - WL 12/16
deepauk - Int Invite 11/10 - WL 12/16
turbo2008 - Int Invite 11/10 - WL 12/16
dan2012 - Int Invite 10/30 - WL 12/16
gregarious - Int Invite 11/10 - WL 12/16
aadmi - Int Invite 11/10 - WL 12/16
zaphod - Int Invite 10/26 - WL 12/16
johnngalt* - WL 12/16
rza - WL
minicho3* - WL 12/16
(WITHDRAWN FOR YALE)


tuck20xx - Int Invite 11/10 - Ding 12/16
pooper - Int Invite 11/6 - Ding 12/16
quantumquark - Int Invite 10/27 - Ding 12/16
boogs - Int Invite 11/10 - Ding 12/16
hokiegenius - Ding 12/16
mustbe* - Ding 12/16
Manbehindthecurtain (REAPP) - Ding 12/16
danek* - Ding 12/16
NeeYo - Ding 12/16

swank6 - Ding (w/o Int) 11/5
rahul321 - Ding (w/o Int) 11/5
bigfernhead - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
billyjeans - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
lunaticofludhiana - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
jinbo - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
unhedged - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
hemantsood - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
nikheel - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
sandipchowdhury - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
Ginetta - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
NickTW - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
abcdef - Ding (w/o Int) 11/11
ACNguy - Ding


emailsector - Int Invite 10/27
fugo - Int Invite 10/29
adabass - Int Invite 10/29
ezekiel2517 - Int Invite 11/3
entrepreneur2015 - Int Invite 11/3
Zyskind - Int Invite 11/3
JCTplus3 - Int Invite 11/4
LBOJunkie* - Int Invite 11/10
blueblanket* - Int Invite 11/10
LetsGoMets* - Int Invite 11/10


snipertrader
flyingator (Withdrawn for CBS)
HBS2011
photoguy
quest2009
mindgame
poojashetty
kavsin
livingonarazorsedge


R1 Profileshttp://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tVT8ygwvX3S1x80mNqsXvag&single=true&gid=0&output=html

R2
Total Applicants: 107
Interview Invites: 50
Admitted:
WL:
Dinged: 30

tdave - ACCEPTED + $$ (Int Invite 2/10)
mbasc2010 - ACCEPTED + $$ (Int Invite 1/28)
Aenigma - ACCEPTED + $$ (Int Invite 2/12)
gcgirl - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 1/28)
Noodles - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 2/12)
Xerion - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 1/20)
hoping2010 - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 1/26)
luna - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 1/26)
egy - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 2/8)
passivation - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 1/21)
NickParsenuvia - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 1/20)
Comrade - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 2/11)
thisisgettingtome - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 2/4)
shana22 - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 1/26)
Yankees2008 - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 1/21)
vamsi142 - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 2/15)
pudgethefish - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 2/10)
lesdeux - ACCEPTED (Int Invite 1/21)

2012mbahopeful* - ACCEPTED + $$
bunny27* - ACCEPTED + $$
meridian17 - ACCEPTED + $$
neocalis* - ACCEPTED
sfclubber* - ACCEPTED
jbourne* - ACCEPTED
contestant1 - ACCEPTED
banyan** - ACCEPTED
RoyMcAvoy - ACCEPTED
sittingtight* - ACCEPTED
wushu2280* - ACCEPTED
allegra* - ACCEPTED
repo* - ACCEPTED
trawab01* - ACCEPTED
carlos2108* - ACCEPTED
samurai* - ACCEPTED
anxious2010* - ACCEPTED
ultraeasy* - ACCEPTED
kdubious* - ACCEPTED
nurkholisoh* - ACCEPTED


WaitList
ykostyuk - Int Invite 1/25
con - Int Invite 1/26
Reality - Int Invite 1/21
quantjock - Int Invite 1/29
robertrdzak - Int Invite 2/9
radicalchange - Int Invite 2/8
sniperssk - Int Invite 2/1
OrionMBA - Int Invite 1/20
GoalMBA2010 - Int Invite 1/20
enny - Int Invite 2/13
shiny26 - Int Invite 1/21
pinkfox - Int Invite 2/1
argifontez*
MbaDavid2012*
mashazz*
acesp14519*
joebloggs1*
quantconcerns*
lionvish*
Vamoots - Int Invite 2/8
(WITHDRAWN FOR KELLOGG)


Ding w/ Int
kinokosarada - Int Invite 2/5
KGY - Int Invite 2/10
madeinafrica - Int Invite 1/26
unplugged - Int Invite 1/27
gkumar - Int Invite 2/4
MBA42012 - Int Invite 1/12
2009mba2012 - Int Invite 2/2
luangm*
WDWFinanceGuy*
johndoe123456*
bluegray*
InLikeFlynn*




Ding w/o interview
aakaps
ador
aj1545
badgerboy
bottlegreen
case2010
cheme
Class2012
coadman
coakleym
Crashing
EBSIFounder
itsmystery
levfin2003
machg400
mitwit
mustafaj
nath99
niraja
planet51
pulandasu
proych
satyr2k
SCBooth
stler645
sudeep
tim2010
triple5soul
westsew
woncosmo


aa5786 - Int Invite 1/21
codex - Int Invite 2/3
classof2012 - Int Invite 1/20
deadlee - Int Invite 2/12
miccarlo - Int Invite 2/15
phboom - Int Invite 2/12
pintotowncar Int Invite 2/1
prakyrules - Int Invite 2/8
pztm - Int Invite 2/6
rao_1857 - Int Invite 2/16
SalarymanJ - Int Invite 2/12
tispot - Int Invite 2/10


AceofSpades
all
Arsalanmu
Ari123
bluegray
bonethugnhominy
choag82
CrushTheGMAT
DenisSh
go42011
indaclub2012
jimjohn
mechIFR
mentos
nutmba
robotrixanant
sglass
sheroo
shurugall
skydiver84
souryab
tabro
tandra_b
thescientist
USMCCommO


R3
Total Applicants:
Interview Invites:
Admitted:
WL:
Dinged:

2010 Application Essay Questions
http://www.chicagobooth.edu/fulltime/ad ... lides.aspx

Essays
1. How did you choose your most recent job/internship and how did this experience influence your future goals? What about the Chicago Booth MBA makes you feel it is the next best step in your career at this time? (750-1000 words)

1a. FOR REAPPLICANTS ONLY: Upon reflection, how has your thinking regarding your future, Chicago Booth, and/or getting an MBA changed since
the time of your last application? (250 words)

2. Please choose one of the following (500 - 750 words):
Describe a time when you wish you could have retracted something you said or did. When did you realize your mistake and how did you handle the situation?
-or-
Describe a time when you were surprised by feedback that you received. What was the feedback and why were you surprised?

Slide Presentation
We have asked for a great deal of information throughout this application and now invite you to tell us about yourself. In four slides or less please answer the following question: What have you not already shared in your application that you would like your future classmates to know about you?

We have set forth the following guidelines for you to consider when creating your presentation.
* The content is completely up to you. There is no right or wrong approach to this essay.
* Feel free to use the software you are most comfortable with. Acceptable formats for upload in the online application system are PowerPoint or PDF.
* There is a strict maximum of 4 slides, though you can provide fewer than 4 if you choose.
* Slides will be printed and added to your file for review, therefore, flash, hyperlinks, embedded videos, music, etc. will not be viewed by the committee. You are limited to text and static images to convey your points. Color may be used.
* Slides will be evaluated on the quality of content and ability to convey your ideas, not on technical expertise or presentation.
* You are welcome to attach a document containing notes if you feel a deeper explanation of your slides is necessary. However the hope is the slide is able to stand alone and convey your ideas clearly. You will not be penalized for adding notes but you should not construct a slide with the intention of using the notes section as a consistent means of explanation.

Optional Essay
If there is any important information that is relevant for your candidacy that you were unable to address elsewhere in the application, please share that information here.

2010 Deadlines
Round 1
Deadline: October 14, 2009
Mid-Decision Date: November 11, 2009
Decision date: December 22, 2009

Round 2
Deadline: January 6, 2010
Mid-Decision Date: February 17, 2010
Decision date: March 24, 2010

Round 3
Deadline: March 10, 2010
Mid-Decision Date: April 21, 2010
Decision date: May 12, 2010


Previous Year Threads
2009 - calling-chicago-booth-applicants-for-64813.html
30 ADMITS 14 MATRICULATING 26 DING 14 WL



2008 - calling-chicago-gsb-applicants-48955.html
21 ADMITS 14 MATRICULATING 31 DING


2007 - gsb-r1-and-r2-lets-the-pants-pooping-commence-40002.html
10 ADMITS 11 DING


Stats
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... utput=html


kwam (2008):
Faculty: http://www.chicagobooth.edu/faculty/directory.aspx
Courses offered: http://gsbportal.chicagobooth.edu/porta ... rue&mode=2
Curriculum requirement: http://programs.chicagogsb.edu/curriculum/degree.aspx

walker: Guide to Slide Presentation
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This is dedicated to hopefulbadger, Johnngalt, quantconerns and all the Chicago Waitlists...

I was a R1 Waitlist who got an admit yesterday.

I totally understand how it is to be in the morally depressing limbo state called waitlist. But now when i look back at the last 3 months, it has been a true test to find the answer for,"How desperately and stubbornly one wants an admit?". There is only one word which truly describes this dogmatic, arrogant stupidity - "sisu" (finnish term :). try reading about it in wikipedia. It might pep up the morale a bit, atleast for me it did)

So, the most important point to be remembered before approaching the waitlist process is to firmly believe that this is just a minor setback due to some misunderstanding because of which Booth hasn't been able to appreciate you and extend an admit.

1. With that thought in mind, first try to figure out the gaps in your application. And for this, just don't hesitate to badger all individuals who can help you (don't make it obvious though). If you think somebody in gmatclub can review your application, then send a mail to them. Do not hesitate. Try contacting first year students in Booth, club representative and recent alumnis.

Just ensure that you have atleast 3-4 individuals who review your application and provide critical comments. (and it should definitely hurt when you receive them. But its ok, this is a chance to correct it)

2. Once you collate all the comments, do an impartial review of your whole application. (implies 'be ruthless' ). Figure out the gaps based on all comments.

3. Now identify how you can address those gaps. For this the most important point to be captured as part of Step.1 is, make sure to ask the reviewers how you could address those critical comments in your update essay. For ex, there could be one comment that the essay lacks emotional touch. Get clarification from them as whether you could correlate any of your personal characteristics with Chicago Booth culture.

4. Once you identify how to address the gaps, ensure that you send the materials with a defined time interval. For ex, if the waitlist period is 3 months, try sending an update once a month. The key here is constant touch.

5. Regarding the additional materials, i believe that an update essay is an absolute must to address the various gaps. Also share all the achievements in your life after the application was submitted. This could be anything from influencing European Union to raising funds for a school kid. Just make sure it gives an additional perspective to your application.

Apart from the update essay, try sending 1 or 2 powerful recommendation notes. Powerful implies somebody whose opinion will be valued by the school and will obviously strengthen your application. The one obvious candidate is an older alumni who is still in touch with the School.
Now the risk here is, no such alumni will give a reco note just like that to an unknown applicant. But the point is, there is nothing to lose by taking this risk. If you know somebody, whose friend's friend's boss is a Booth alumni, try contacting them. Try explaining your case to them and have an interview again with them. After all, there is a 50% chance that it might click. :)

I hope the above points will be helpful to all of you.

Coming to my case, I did three main things.

1. A few days after receiving the waitlist info, i sent a 6 line mail before Dec 25th stating that i am happy to be waitlisted, how i will be sharing additional info in the coming days and then wished them happy holidays.

2. Sent one update waitlist essay (nearly 2 pages long) - it involved the following points, 1. why Booth is the right choice from a personal and future goals perspective, 2. interactions with various alumni and info received from them. 3. career front update - luckily, i had a few patents filed in the last 6 months after submitting the R1 App.
-> For this, i had my initial essay reviewed by quite a few individuals including two in gmatclub. And infact, one gmatclub member reviewed my waitlist essay as well. (Remember, i identified that nothing can be altered with Essay 2 and PPT. So the only thing i got it reviewed is Essay 1.)

3. Apart from this, i contacted a Class 80's Booth alumni through another alumni. Had an interview with him. He was impressed with my case.
He sent a reco note to admissions stating the reasons as why and how i would be a great addition to Class-2012 and beyond. (apparently, this is the first time he's recommending someone till date)

I believe that while the update essay might have given a lot of additional positive reasons, the amazing reco note from a powerful alumni definitely would have tilted the waitlist into an admit.

And the thing which i missed sending is, an update on my extracurricular front. So, if you want, you can actually split your waitlist essay into two parts - one for professional front and other for EC.

Those are my 2 cents.

Wish you all goodluck.

Btw, to ease the pain of waitlist period, i took up Half Marathon training (and also raised funds for underprivileged children). It is highly recommended :)
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The below I posted in the other thread but am reposting here in case people are interested. Its very poorly written because most of it was done on a blackberry on my way to work, but you'll get the idea.

Someone, whom shall remain nameless sent me the following message (edited to protect):

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.... could you perhaps share what you see as cons and unexpected pros of Chicago Booth? I am especially interested in the cons...

My perceptions from talking to students right now is that it's unpleasantly over-competitive in general....

you have a lot more students from part-time and evening programs competing for the same interview slots, so getting jobs is even harder. Is this accurate?


I won't just focus on the con's cause I really don't think its fair to only talk about that, but I'll give them 50% of my time.

The first thing mentioned here is that its unpleasantly over-competitive in general. On this fact, I'm split. Academics are not competitive, high profile jobs sometimes are.

Lets tackle academics. There's really very little competition here. Sure, there are those people who *care* more about their grades and there are those that practically appear to be comatose in class -- and everything in between, but there's hardly a lot of competition. A couple of reasons for this.

First, there are far more people who aim for a "B or a C" than people who aim for an "A or A-". So, right out of the gate, that reduces the competitiveness in class pretty substantially.

Second, much of what you do (with the exception of certain courses like accounting) is very team oriented. A lot of these team efforts begin to approach collusion instead of competition. For instance, if you have a 5 person team and say, 10 case writeups to do over the course of a class, some teams will just say 'ok you do the first 2, i'll do the next 2, etc..' and you just cut your workload in a fifth. Professors don't much encourage that of course, it's sort of cheating the learning process a bit being that the whole idea of team oriented learning is that you discuss (not that you just divy up the work).

Third, peeople just aren't like that -- its quite common for people to share cheat sheets for final exams ("oh i took that class last quarter, let me give you my cheat sheet for the final") or notes or other resources.

Fourth, and perhaps this should have been first, we have grade non disclosure. IT means that you cannot divulge your GPA to any recruiter until after you graduate. So (and this relates to my first point about most people not aiming for As) there's really very little incentive (outside of your own personal sense of accomplishment) to aim for As. I'm proud of my high honors but other than my parents, I'm not sure anyone cares.

Fifth, it takes EFFORT to get something lower than a C. I don't know of people who have -- although I know they exist. But honestly, you REALLY have to do nothing to get below a C. The overall difficulty of the academics are far overblown.

Sixth, part of it is just being smart -- pick your teammates well. People get reputations as 'idiots' or 'slackers' quickly, and those people won't find themselves in good groups. If on the other hand, you get the opposite reputation you'll find that people you barely know are trying to get you to join their group. Having the pick of the litter makes your life a lot easier. It's not always easy to cut out the weak ones and I've thrown a few really poor performers under a bus which I didn't like to do, but it was the right choice. By the time I got into my second year, I had all of the smartest folks in teh room pairing up on my team - most of whom (if not all) were smarter than I was.

The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. I was a <3.0 undergrad and I graduated with high honors from Booth. That either means I got smarter in the interim, everyone else got dumber, or people just dont' compete that much on academics. It seems unlikely that either of the first two things happened.

So thats academics. Lets talk jobs.

Jobs are a wierd beast -- in some ways its very uncompetitive and in other ways its hypercompetitive. A lot of it frankly, is just PERCEPTION.

On one side of the coin - people do help each other out -- I had an instance where I was walking to an interview and ran into a girl I knew who had just finished her own interview (for the same job). She mentioned to me that I should brush up on concept X and concept Y -- out of her own volition. I ended up with an offer from that company in part thanks to her heads up. I had that kind of thing happen more than once -- I made groups of people to practice cases with and we shared frameworks we developed amongst ourselves. To be completely transparent though, I have to admit that when others asked me for my frameworks, I wouldnt' share them. It's not because I'm competitive but its because I spent hours and hours building them and I wasn't about to just give that work away to people who couldn't be bothered to do it themselves. (I did share them with people I trusted however).

On the other side of the coin - you DO have the people on the other end of the spectrum as well. One guy showed up to a top 3 consulting firm recruiting dinner after having accepted a job offer in banking. Considering banking was his top choice a lot of people wondered why he didn't have the curtesy to cancel and give someone else a chance to go. He said he wanted to keep his options open. People like that don't make great impressions and I promise you it did him far more harm among his peers than it helped him -- he ended up loosing his FT job offer and I doubt a lot of people are going out of their way to help him.

Another fellow came up to me one morning and asked me if I had landed job X. I told him I didn't. He said "I did" and walked away. A few months later over drinks I complimented him by telling him: "I'm glad you got that job. I honestly think you were the better candidate and you seem happy. I know it came down to me and you at the end there and for what its worth, I think they made the right choice." His response? "Oh, I don't think they ever really liked you. I think they were just being nice to you." Another fellow that wasn't much liked to be sure.

These examples are the worst of them though - honestly, people aren't generally like this.

I honestly believe it FEELS more competitive than it is. The recruiting season at Booth (and at any other school) is a stressful time. You balance classes, activities, friends, family and job hunting in a short four or five week timeframe all the while acutely aware of who has what job. Word travels fast -- "Did you hear so and so didnt' get a 2nd round?" or "I heard they are only hiring four people this year" or "I can't believe she got an offer from Goldman, she can barely keep herself from walking into walls." You'll see friends get denied from dream jobs, you'll get 2nd rounds they don't (and feel bad about it) and vica-versa, you'll see some REALLY smart people struggle to find a gig, you'll also see some of the dumbest people you've ever met magically land gigs at top firms. You'll question your interests, etc. Imagine for a moment the stress of your MBA interview and waiting for a decision from the school -- now just repeat that experience a couple dozen times, except this time, if the answer is no, you don't just keep your old job and reapply next year -- this time, if the answer is no, you have no job and you just blew a couple hundred G. It makes the MBA admissions process look like a cake walk.

It's a stressful process and that tends to breed some degree of competition - no one wants to be the person without a job offer while all their friends are sitting on two or three. But that feeling that 'this is it' -- that this is the 'ultimate test', the 'end to all ends' is really more in your own head than anything else.

That stress effects different people in different ways - some people are perfectly content not interviewing on campus and holding out for their dream job till June. Others don't or can't.

So, is it competitive? Maybe. It certainly does feel competitive -- but I don't think thats a function of Booth, I think its just the nature of the game. I imagine you'd feel that stress at Wharton or Kellogg or any other school just as much as you would at Booth.

Now lets talk part timers.

For internships, only FT students can recruit. For full time jobs, PT students (provided they have a certain number of classes and have completed certain training) can recruit. Make no mistake about it, this will piss you off (even if half of them blow their chances within 10 seconds of opening their mouth). There is nothing more infuriating than some guy with a job he may or may-not have any real intention of leaving showing up to a recruiting event and monopolozing the recruiters time. You'll want to punch their lights out more than once.

I got my revenge one night at a recruiting dinner -- I showed up early and dressed business casual. All the part timers always overdo it and showed up in suit and tie. I'm calm and collected and drinking at the bar, and pretty soon I've got a semi-circle of these yahoos around me and frankly id prefer it if they just screwed off and let me finish my drink before the company representatives kicked thigns off. It then dawns on me they think I work for the company, so I turn to one of the guys, look him straight in the eye and say "So, what do you think are the 3 biggest challenges facing our firm over the next five years?" It was the most beautiful deer-in-headlights look I've ever seen. The guy practically crapped himself right then and there. You might think this was mean, but trust me, spend a quarter dealing with PT people showing up to every event you have and you'll be a little mean too.

The point is they are there - they will piss you off. The good thing is that they are generally pretty unpolished when it comes to recruiting and most of them blow their chances immediately.

Example - same night, same dinner. Halfway through the meal, this girl shows up, plops down next to me and apologies for being late. I'm thinking to myself, "Sweetie, 20 minutes is late, an hour into dinner is idiotic." Although she had probably already destroyed her chances, she gracefully stepped on mine after mine from taht point forward. She proceeds to explain that shes late because of "homework" but that she lives in a "really nice apartment just down the street" and that therefore it only took her a "few minutes" to walk over. Great, so you show up halfway through a meal because of homework? Yea, what a winner. As if that wasn't enough, she then interrupts the recruiter (sitting on my left, shes on my right) and proceeds to pepper her with questions. The recruiter, who was quite clearly in the middle of another conversation with the person to her left, is left in an uncomfortable position of trying to manage this. My conversation in the mean time is also cut short as this girl begins to talk across from me. As if this wasn't enough, she then starts to talk about how she's also perhaps interested in consulting (note: this was not a consulting company dinner) and starts asking me if I am thinking about consulting too..... in front of the recruiter. I deflected the question and spent the rest of the night hoping the flambe desert would accidentally set this girl on fire. In the end, the only person to get an offer from that firm was a FT student.

Another PT student recruiting for a consulting gig went to some event and commented to the recruiter "So hows the hiking thing going?". The recruiter was obviously perplexed -- how did this girl know she had started hiking? The rest of us were just confused. Turns out, I later discovered that the recruiter's profile on facebook was set to open and that this girl had basically gone e-stalking. You can bet that girl didn't get an interview.

So, does it make it 'harder' to land a job? I honestly don't know how much of a material difference it is, but it will certainly FEEL like it makes a difference. It helps that they seem to all have the sabotage switch soldered to an 'ON' position though.

If you ask me what the #1 thing that irritated me about Booth is, I'd tell you exactly this. To be fair, this situation isn't limited to just Booth, other schools have similar policies, although I think Booth makes it too easy for PT to show up.

As for the pros? I guess I'll have to get back to this - I have a meeting.
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Dear Booth,

Thank you for sending me your latest edition of the "Admissions Insider" e-newsletter. It in no way exacerbated my recent onset of cardiac arrhythmia to see an e-mail from the admissions office and, if anything, I actually found the colorful image of the Winter Garden very soothing -- which is not to say I have been in any way agitated of late. Not at all. Despite occasional bouts of compulsive "refreshing" behaviors and a mildly disruptive forum addiction, I assure you I am an entirely sane and stable individual who is supremely well-suited to your program. Not that I'm thinking about your school on a second-to-second basis. Haha! No! I assure you I have much more interesting pursuits... please see my PowerPoint collage for reference. (You did get my PowerPoint, right?) In fact, the density of relaxing words such as "Interview" and "Admissions" and "the" in your e-mail enabled me to practically forget that I had even applied to your esteemed program and drift instead on fluffy daydream clouds of hanging out in the booth table of a restaurant, enjoying rosemary-seasoned roast with a glass of sparkling Martinelli's cider... this is in no way subliminal or associated with the "Liquidity Preference Function" I may or may not be conducting alone at my desk due to application-related stress... I could go on and on but I'm afraid my two-minute break from refreshing GMAT Club is over and I am nothing if not committed to my important work here. Please see my resume for further detail. (You did get my resume, right?)

Thanks again. I really look forward to the next edition!

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Whew! Trying to catch my breath here. Congratulations!!!! to everyone who has heard good news. I hope to see you all at at least one of the events coming up...

For those of you still waiting: listen up. There is still hope. I did a little sleuthing for y'all and grilled my admissions lady (who was super-nice, by the way). As of about an hour ago, she said she was only about halfway done with calling people.

At the risk of giving you too much information, she said she started out this morning with the parts of Asia she felt she could call before bedtime. After doing that, she started calling names off her spreadsheet in reverse alphabetical order. Then after a little while she started calling names in actual alphabetical order from the top. (Note that she did not tell me whether admits were ordered alphabetically by first name or last name, so this still fundamentally gives you no information.) And now she says she's calling pretty randomly.

She hasn't called Australia yet.

There are five or six other people also making calls... imagine how they must all have their own crazy systems! Don't give up yet.
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Lets get another con out of the way before we move onto some positives. I'll steal a bit from another old post.

LEAD.

LEAD is arguably the most overhyped utterly useless entirely worthless bag of garbage ever concieved by man. And that's me being polite. In all seriousness, I don't think I could create something more worthless if I tried.

The problems with LEAD are numerous. First, from the get go they tell you take it seriously, but then clearly set it up so that you don't have to. 50% of your "grade" in LEAD is attendance. Soemthing like 25% is just submitting the homework and the remaining 25% is discretionary. Keep in mind that LEAD is just a "pass fail" course. So in other words, if you show up, hand ANYTHING in (even if its a blank piece of paper with teh words 'i hate you' written on it) you've got a 75% in the class. How can you possibly fail? Moreover, how can someone tell you this is a capstone course that you should take seriously when the grading is set up this way?

You might not believe it, but there is always someone who DOES fail LEAD. If you find someone who does, take note -- they are the type of person you dont want in your study group.

To me, thats enough to kill it, but lets continue painting this pig, shall we? Now, a leadership development class, you would presume, would be taught by people with, well, leadership experience. Not so. It's taught by second year students. Now some of these people are impressive, but its hard to take a 22 year old analyst from Merrill seriously when they tell me how to be a CEO. I have undigested meat in my colon thats older than some of these people.

Its a farce of the highest order and one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. These people know nothing more about leadership than you do, some of them barely have more than a few years experience. Bring in a CEO to talk, or bring in someone who does this stuff for a living. But to purport that a 2nd year is somehow now qualified to teach ethics and leadership is insulting to my intelligence and to theirs. As for crisis management? Seriously? A 25 year old teaching you how to manage life crises? With what? Some 'johari window' or other such crap pulled from some framework? It's the equivalent of my attending swimming lessons at a local pool and then teaching a class on 'how to ditch an airplane in high seas and survive'.

AThen there's the mock cases you do that are supposed to represent 'real life' situations...... just kill me now. The real life examples are so far removed from real life, they might as well be taken from the latest harry potter movie. How about this for a nice realistic situation you might find yourself in? *real case*. You play the CEO of a 5B dollar hospital. I play the CFO. Someone else plays the Private Equity buyer. The nurses at the hospital have been giving free medical care to some homeless people and the CEO and CFO are worried that if they sell to the PE buyer they firm will put a stop to it. Is it unethical to withhold that from the buyer? What should they do? Then you get together and pretend to debate it for 30 minutes. The key word here is pretend.... because here's the kicker: everyone already knows everything: everyone has read the same case, and everyone knows each others arguments ahead of time because they are all in the written case, so you just spend half and hour mentally regurgitating out crap you ALREADY KNOW to each other. (You aren't allowed to make up facts).

Worse, they tell you what the supposed personalities of each person are - so if the CEO is supposed to play hard and tough - are you supposed to be hard and tough? What if thats not the type of person you are? They also tell you what point of view you are supposed to argue. What if you don't agree with the supposed point of view you are supposed to take? How will this help you practice your skills by pretending to be someone else and pretending to adopt some viewpoint you don't actually have?

So here's how it goes: Nurse: "But its not that expensive!" (page 2 of case) CFO: "How expensive is it?" Nurse: "Uhm uh I don't know the case doesn't say". CEO: "Well I think its important for our community" (page 3 of case), other guy: "But its bad for our relationship with the PE guy" (page 4 of case)..... Third guy: "Well I don't actually feel this way but I'm supposed to say that I oppose telling the buyer...." (page 5 of case) . CEO: "Yea, ok, well uhm, I disagree) (page 6 of case, except you can tell he doesnt)

As if that didn't render the excercise entirely meaningless already, there's absolutely no evaluation of an outcome. There is never a 'right' answer. It doesn't matter what you decide. They don't even take a tally to see if you all come to a similar decision.

Here's how LEAD Should be. First, don't hand me the exact same case info as everyone else, because thats just retarded. Second, use something realistic. How about this: A member of your study group hasn't been pulling their weight and you arent sure how to deal with it. Or maybe you've started a new job and you arne't happy with your assignment, and want to take on more leadership, how do you handle that? Or maybe your new boss is doing something you are concerned about, who, if anyone do you tell? Now *thats* real, relevant, and unlike becoming the CEO of a fictitious hospital, probably something will happen to you in the next 5 years. Third, make the !(#!(#@ decision matter. In another course I took they actually had each game be zero sum - someone wins, someone looses, and although your grade isn't tied to the outcome you do see z-scores for everyone so you can see how you did.

You want to know who benefits? The people who teach the class - they get to get up in front of an audience 2x a week and practice public speaking, they get a large amount of one-on-one training with a real executive coach (he's older than 25). I honestly believe LEAD exists not for the students in the class but for the people selected to teach it.

so there's another con of the program.

Now lets talk a bit about some of the better stuff:

* The curriculum is flexible
* You can take classes elsewhere in teh university
* You can take two courses Pass / Fail
* The name DOES open doors and it does command respect

So lets talk about the flexible curriculum a bit. The school really sucks at selling this. Two reasons. First, they lie about how flexible it is. Second, even though they lie, they still forget to mention why what IS true is actually interesting.

So, first off, raise your hand if you've heard "There's only one class required at booth!". Ok you can all put your hands down now, cause that's not true. Reality is here.

http://www.chicagobooth.edu/fulltime/ac ... index.aspx

Sure, LEAD is the only required class (if you can even call it that) -- but you DO have to take classes among the foundations and functions.

What that means is that you will have to take an accounting course, you will have to take a microeconmics course and you do have to take a stats course. As far as I'm concerned, getting to pick between Accounting I and Accounting II isn't flexible.

So lets say there are 4 required courses.

Nevertheless, the flexible curriculum IS cool. Here's why:

* First, you get to know 2nd year students during your 1st year. This is good for a number of reasons. They know how to manage the reqruiting process and they provide a lot of great insights / help / cover letter reviews etc. They are also likely teh very people who will be reading your cover letter for the FT job in a year, so being friends with the new associate at company X certainly doesn't hurt. Third, if they end up in your study group, they know how to 'play the game' and have figured out how to prioritize tasks so that you dont' feel overwhelmed. This is a pretty big perk -- because honestly, without it, you aren't going to get to know 2nd years that easily.

* Second, its flexbile not just in what kind of classes you take (e.g. I dont want to take that, I'll take this) but also in what order you take them in. That's cool. For instance, if you plan on recruiting for banking but havent a clue about finance, its nice that you can jump right into investments in your first quarter rather than have to be stuck taking accounting first. That helps when it comes time to interview because now you actually know *something* relevant to the subject. Similarly, if you plan on going into marketing, take marketing your first quarter and worry about takign statistics later. In fact, some people dont' do accounting until their LAST quarter on campus. (yes, accounting is that boring)

* Third, the flexibility means you can have a kick ass schedule. Only want classes monday and tuesday ? Thats doable -- in fact, my final quarter at Booth I had that schedule. What a beautiful schedule -- no class Wed, Thurs or Fri. World's longest weekends. Its also helpful if you want to find a part time job (as some peopel do) because you can actually work two full 8 hour days if you want (and a number of people do in PE and VC)

* Fourth, even the same classes -- say, introductory economics, are taught by different professors with different styles. One professor might prefer team oriented work like a final report while the other might be a more traditional midterm and final. Hate math? Don't take the one with the midterm and final. Hate teamwork? Try it with professor Y. Prefer a class that has no midterm at all? Take professor Z. Or if you want a class with 70% of your grade determined by homework? Try professor Q. Etc. You can really pick what YOU like and what YOu want.

* Fifth, you can combine classes to craft a schedule that works. If class A is going to be heavy on reading, then dont' take two other heavy reading classes at the same time - combine a case-heavy class with a non-case based course. Combine a teamwork intensive class with one thats more individually focused.

You put this altogether and you get a VERY flexible curriculum that really lets you take what you want, when you want, with what professor you want. (I got all the courses I ever bid on).

So thats a big pro at Booth. The school talks about it, but again I think they just don't do a great job of selling that.

Some of the other related perks here is that you can take classes outside of Booth if you want (e.g. intensive chinese if you are a masochist) -- some people take classes in the law school as well (e.g. private equity law). I'm told the law school is crazy and its awful, but you can do it if you want. Similarly, you can take two classes pass fail and have them count towards your graduation requirements. Thats cool. Either because you can take something you know will be hard and just pass fail it, or because you can lighten the stress of a quarter you otherwise knew was going to be tough.

The name does open doors. I imagine thats pretty obvious -- but it really does. I like how when you mention you went to Chicago people's eyebrows go up -- they immediately assume you are smart (unless you are a PT who asks a corporate recruiter about consulting, then they and I both think you are an idiot).... and the cachet and almost 'table stakes' assumption about you is certainly a nice perk.

There's obviously other positives, and perhaps I can get to some of those later.

Finally, FYI, here's the PT recruiting policy for the curious:

Evening MBA and Weekend MBA Program students who meet the following eligibility requirements may be invited by companies to participate in the Full-
Time MBA Program’s on-campus invitational interview recruiting for entry-level full-time employment during the Autumn Quarter of each year. Evening MBA
and Weekend MBA Program students are not eligible for participation in on-campus internship recruiting. Evening MBA and Weekend MBA Program students
must abide by Career Services’ On-Campus Recruiting Policies and Procedures available at career. ChicagoBooth.edu/fulltime/about/policies/ocr.aspx,
and meet the following eligibility requirements:
1. Be seeking full-time employment.
2. By the end of the Summer Quarter in the year they are planning to participate in on-campus recruiting, have successfully completed at least 12 courses that meet Chicago Booth’s degree requirements.
3. Be enrolled in at least one Chicago Booth course during the Autumn Quarter they are participating in on-campus recruiting.
4. Have the following documentation on file with Career Services:
a. A completed and signed Eligibility Certification form.
b. Documentation to prove that they are not employed, or have not received any financial support of reimbursement from their employer (i.e., that they paid 100 percent of all Chicago Booth tuition, fees, and other expenses) or prove, with a statement from their employer on company letterhead, that their participation in on-campus recruiting does not violate corporate policy and that the company is aware that the student may participate in autumn recruiting activities.
5. Have not previously participated in on-campus interviewing. Participation in on-campus recruiting is only allowed once.
6. Have participated in all mandatory recruiting training sessions.
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Rhyme's I'm Lazy 540 second guide to Waitlists.

Those of you that remember last year may know that Booth had a higher than expected yield, resulting in an intake well over their usual target. This created some real problems,from logistical (how to fit the extra students into lead), to even structural (e.g. not enough lockers). As such, it wouldn't come as a surprise to me if this year they are playing the numbers a little closer to the chest. One class thats "too big" is one thing -- two classes that are too big would yield some serious challenges.

Thus, don't be overly discouraged by a waitlist -- even if it does kind of sting.

My advice? The people who tend to get off the waitlist are the people who bother to keep in touch. This means sending more than a single update letter now and then just sitting back and waiting until the end of time.

If you intend to stay on the waitlist, send a statement to that effect to the school. Put a little thought into it - re-iterate your interest - and close with your continued enthusiasm. If you intend to go somewhere else, do the right thing and take yourself off the list. Too many people stay on just "too see" in some kind of half-hearted effort to collect admits like they are some kind of badge of honor (as you'll soon see, no one gives a crap where you got admitted).
My hats off to the one guy who already said he'd pull himself. Good on you.

Now assuming that you ARE staying on the list, my advice would be to continue to send updates every 2 to 3 months. Feel free to send in whatever you think might be of value to the admissions committee, but try to add something new to your application if you can. Absolutely send updates involving promotions, material change in responsibilities, etc. If you have no idea what to say, consider reaching out to alumni or current students and discuss how your conversation with those people either reinforced something you already knew or perhaps introduced you to a new aspect about Booth that interests you. Visiting again (assuming youv'e visited) won't do you much good. Visit if you want to, or if it costs you next to nothing, but don't go out of your way to do so. There isn't a secret checkbox that says "Visited more than once" on the application.

Thats my five hundred and fourty second allotment timer dinging at me.
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Paging Dr. Rhyme - stat! Booth applicants seriously confused and anxiety-ridden! Your insight needed urgently! Paging Dr. Rhyme - stat!
:)


HEY! I was sleeping!

Damn pager.

Look, here's the dilly:

* You will not be interviewed by someone who has read your application. That is the case for both students and adcom staff.
* If you interview on campus, you will be interviewed by a student. There is a remote possibility it will be an adcom member, occasionally they do backfill slots when demand exceeds supply or when there's a need. Regardless, the school will ensure its not an adcom that has read your app.
* Not all adcoms read every app. It would be impossible.
* The interview is not a phase-gate.
* You are being evaluated on fit -- that means everything from intellectual curiosity, to why mba, why booth, your background, interests, history, plans, goals, etc. Honestly, I think 50% of the interview is just trying to figure out if you are an ass**** or otherwise just not the kind of person you would want representing your brand/school.
* Recall that the interviewer is just a single data point - and a small one at that.
* At committee there is someone who is your proponent - someone who wants you to be admitted - they make a case for your admission to the rest of the adcoms and you are then debated. The debate could be on anything - leadership background, your teamwork skills, your interview, your GMAT, your poor undergraduate grades, your fit, whatever.

Bottom line....

relax.... breathe in... breathe out... just be yourself and enjoy the interview like youd enjoy a coffee chat with a friend (but keep it professional).
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This is in response to some of ThomasCrown's questions via PM. I decided to post my reply here to help those with similar questions. Please feel free to correct or add to my responses.

ThomasCrown wrote:
Thanks a lot for your detailed answer. Since this is my first interview I have a lot of questions I need to address and if you don't mind I'll ask some of them to you.

1. I know one of the most asked questions is "walk me through your resume". How detailed should my answer be? Should I just briefly talk about my career progress up to date and my accomplishments?

Your Booth interview is going to be like the typical 30-45 min banking interview. Your response to this question should be brief but must also hit the main points i.e. personal background, educational background, work experience, personal interests. Be warm and conversational or you'll end up reading back your resume to the interviewer and that's a no-no. Just imagine that you're interviewing for a job at a top-notch corporation.

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2. I have several strong points about why Booth but do you think I should be ready talk about particular professor and classes in detail? I mentioned some of the professors I found interesting in my essays but I would not be able to answer detailed questions about them at the point.

Your interviewer will be checking to see that you've done your homework on Booth. This doesn't mean s/he will expect you to discuss a particular professor or class in detail. S/he will definitely expect much more than "Booth is a terrifc school with a strong reputation in [XXXX]". Say something about Booth's reputation in your home-country... or mention that you have a lot of family at or close to Chicago if applicable. You can also find something you like about Booth that's unique (i.e. something Booth has that other schools don't). What are you hoping to get from Booth that you can't get from ANY other b-school?

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3. Were you asked any questions that you were not ready to answer or you did not expect?

I interviewed with a recent alum and he didn't ask me any question I was not expecting. Each interviewer is sent an interviewing guide and I suspect that most of interviewers stick to the suggested set of questions. An experienced interviewer might deviate a bit from the script though but you just have to be ready to think on the spot and land on your feet.

ThomasCrown wrote:
4. Any other interview tips that you think are important and that have helped you to get accepted? ( your perspective on why Booth would be nice)

I'll give the same advice I'll give to job candidates:

1) Be personable and likeable. It will account for almost 50% of your interview "score"
2) Be enthusiastic and passionate. If you can't sell your story successfully to your interviewer, then you will not be getting an endorsement
3) Read through your application and have a solid grasp of your reasons for pursuing an MBA from Chicago Booth now.
4) Carry yourself like a successful person. Convince your interviewer that you're going to be a super-successful alum. Even if you don't feel like a million bucks, fake it! Good luck!

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Actually please don't reinforce essays. I've spoken to the adcoms at Booth about the PPT before and they've consistently indicated (and I think in some instances even in public chats, maybe someone can find one) that the biggest single mistake people make is re-iterating what was already stated elsewhere in the application.

If you've already said it, don't say it again, unless it truly adds some new dimension that the rest of your app didn't cover. For instance, if the only place you mention that you took 10 blind orphans to the top of everest in a bullet on the bottom of your resume, then by all means, have a slide with you and the kids holding a flag. If however, all of some other essay was about this, then there is NOTHING to be gained by repeating yourself.

Also, don't waste too much time on 'looks'. This isn't art school. Its ok if you aren't a master in photoshop. Try and avoid a near seizure inducing color scheme, but don't worry if it doesn't look like you spent the last 5 years in the art department of Leo Burnett. Some very effective PPTs look like they were made with a bout of spastic mouse clicking.

Avoid wasting a trillion hours trying to find a 'cute' theme that ties your PPT slides together. It's cute, but odds are (1) you arent the first and (2) its not that memorable. If you don't have a clue what I mean, thats OK, you are probably better off that way :) All too often however, the ppts I've seen have a tendency to rehash known facts. Often, they are 'clever' and creative, but the novelty of the concept wears thin within about 10 seconds - and what they really lack is meaningful content. For instance, I saw one last year where the guy used his name to spell out something like "D.A.N" = "Dedicated, Adventure...". That might be 'clever' and a bit creative, but its pretty low on the scale of actually communicating anything of consequence. There was another I saw last year where the guy turned the whole thing into a 'client presentation' (he wanted to be a consultant) about himself, complete with the regurgitation of lots of facts from his resume. It was cute that he made up a consulting company and was presenting on himself - but again, that novelty is quickly forgotten. I've seen lots of variations of this - bankers creating "mock" pitch books on themselves, marketers presenting "sales figures" on a candy bar named after themselves (hint: sales are through the roof!), , the 'pre and post MBA human capital valuation' (on themselves again, and guess what, the post MBA valuation is really high! Lets invest!) from someone wanting to do VC. Those are all cute, and you get a laugh - but they aren't particularly memorable. (In other words, odds are, you aren't the first to come up with a 'pitch book' concept). Like I said, these are all fine - intrinsically, there's nothing wrong with any of them -- but often the tendency is for the 'cute hook' to be 70% of the point of the powerpoint, with the actual content simply reinforcing the hook rather than saying something of consequence. For instance, the VC post and pre valuation investment book had a page with, basically, resume bullets before mba and resume bullets post mba. Again, very much supports the 'pre-post mba valuation' hook, but all the pre mba resume bullets were basically what was on the resume already, and the post mba ones essentially outlined his goals, which were in the essays. You didn't actually learn anything new from the slide.

So, my advice, is this: rather than get hung up coming up with something cute, figure out what you have and have not yet told the admissions committee.

The other thing I'd caution against is attempting to rehash other essays from other schools into some kind of PPT. It doesn't work. Bullet pointing your story about saving the engineering team from fudging up the doohikie doesn't lend itself to an interesting PPT.

Final note: If you are a guy, avoid the picture of you doing a kegstand. If you are a girl, avoid sending pictures of you in a tiny bikini. No, I'm not kidding.

Ok time to go to TNDC. Later boys.
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Me? I am in Buenos Aires, Argentina...definitely, I won't make it


Yea, doesn't look good. :)


There should be wifi in the event, no? Perhaps use skype and webcam through a Chicago friend? ;-)


Yea, that should go a long way towards changing the perception that Booth people are geeks.... I'll just show up with a laptop, wifi card and a webcam strapped to my head....

Course, that would help your R2s since the R1s yield would be like 3%
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Re: Calling Fall 2010 Chicago Booth Applicants [#permalink] New post 09 Feb 2010, 07:13
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Almost had an heart attack seeing a mail from Booth..Alas, 'a live chat' email!


alpha_plus_gamma, clearly you are not taking this seriously enough. What else is an interview, after all, than a live chat? Now y'all might be schlubbing it up at your desks during this chat, simultaneously eating the lunch that your jobs afford you -- gold-flecked fugu for many of you, "cart guy" for me (NYCers say word) -- and typing low-brow lowercase questions and wondering if the only chick involved in the chat is actually cute or if maybe you should head to a school in a warmer clime where at least there will be more bikinis... But know this! I too will be there at this "live chat" and I will be wearing a suit -- a black suit and what! -- at my computer, as befits a possible Booth admit. I shall google all the school representatives and create bonds by sending in relate-able asides like, "Sometimes I think recruiting for consulting is a lot like that one time at band camp, if you know what I mean!" I shall pose all my questions aloud in modulated and mellifluous tones, my queries honed by the clarity that only fasting for 24 hours can provide. The sonorous rumbling with which my belly punctuates every inquiry will be admired as assertive but not aggressive, as every professional woman's hunger-growls ought to be. I will smile. I will nod. I will take notes.

In short, you should see this live chat as an opportunity to get your foot in the door. Too late now, though. I got this.
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Re: Calling Fall 2010 Chicago Booth Applicants [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2010, 11:42
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I have a question for those of us with some insider knowledge of Booth's admissions process. I understand from Rhyme's comments in R1 that the interview is not a "phase gate" for native English speakers (comments from the interviewer just go into your file as another data point). What I don't understand is what happens after the interview at the committee level. Since the file of every candidate invited to interview has been read by 3 or more persons (possibly including Rose herself), what kind of issues come up in comittee that lead to dings? I am assuming that if these issues are indeed deal-breakers, they would have been caught by at least two of the first 3 readers. In short, it's just hard for me to imagine why Booth would bother interviewing a candidate they know will not make it past the admissions committee, especially when the interviews don't "make or break" candidates.

What additional criteria is used to evaluate candidates at the committee stage? Is it fit? Diversity? Industry quotas? Geographic quotas? GMAT-balancing to improve the overall class profile? Recruitability?

I just need some clarity so I can stop worrying that some typo in my application that the first-stage readers missed will be noticed in committee and be cause for a ding. Any insights would be much appreciated. :)


Tdave,

I am a R1 admit to Booth. Not much insider info but let me help you calm down.

First, regarding your typo, don't worry at all unless you wrote how much you would love to attend Kotler's class at Kellogg or something like that. If it helps you, I completely missed the part of the instructions where it said "Please include your name in the header of ALL essays". Actually, I realized reading this forum of that and I sent an email to the Adcom apologizing and asking if I should consider myself automatically dinged for being an ass they told me "relax and enjoy the ride". And here I am, three months later and 1K less in my account crossing the days like an inmate until August 17th when I will move to Chicago for good.

On your main question regarding Interviews I would say that FIT is really important. Also, the interview is to find out if you are who you said you were in your essays. Also, you need to consider that all schools, probably with the exception of HBS and Stanford, are worried of losing their admits to other higher ranked schools. Therefore, you need to make a compelling case on why Chicago.

Also, if something looks weird on your app (i.e. weird career moves) you might be given the benefit of doubt and get interviewed and then dinged after you fail to explain why you X vs. Y.

Not sure how it is in Chicago, but in other schools (Stanford for example) when the interviewer submits the interview report, they also give a recommendation. Your interviewer might be either an idiot or just don't like you and recommend the adcom not to admit you. Then Rose and crew can decide that your app was that stellar that they can ignore your interview report. Or, it could be the case where you went to interview with some concerns from the adcom that the report really makes or break your application.

Finally, the Geo/industry/Gender/Race quota plays a its role. If you look at schools stats in certain countries, you will find that consistently they admit pretty much the same number of people...

If anybody has further info on this...
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Re: Calling Fall 2010 Chicago Booth Applicants [#permalink] New post 07 Mar 2010, 11:53
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I am only applying to Booth at this point. Do you guys think it is advantageos to mention it in my essay after writing about all the benefits of Booth?


No, I think you should leave this fact out of your application entirely for 2 reasons:

1. The adcom is looking for evidence that you are committed to getting your MBA right now, not next year or the year after that. Admitting that you are only applying to one school, especially in R3, implies that you're "kinda" interested and may not have a clearly defined direction.

2. The adcom is evaluating your application as a strategic initiative; applying to only one school could cause them to call your strategic ability into question, a thought you don't want running through their heads.

I understand that there may be some value in expressing that you feel Booth is such a perfect fit that you're not even applying anywhere else. In my opinion though, the potential costs of making that statement outweigh the benefits.
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Want to laugh....go ahead and read this

http://forums.businessweek.com/bw-bscho ... ?msg=78595
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Re: Calling Fall 2010 Chicago Booth Applicants [#permalink] New post 22 Mar 2010, 06:59
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Hey Rhyme....since you are student at Booth, can you make sure that all GMAT club members get an admit? We will build you a statue just outside the Harper Center!


You mean like this
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They're already done with Asia ??!! Damn are these guys Mongol Horsemen or what ??

But if they are done with Asia this means that i've been shafted. One more notch on my String of Dings :cry:

Well anyway congrats to all those who got it. Au Revoir.
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YOU GUYS!

I got the call! I'm in - with $$!

A little more info to follow, first I have to call my folks. (Yes you heard it from me before they did!)
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Congratulations to all the surprise admits! Like shana22, I too had hoped that there would be more of you this morning, but nonetheless I'm very glad for you!

For everyone on the waitlist, hang in there. I agree with rhyme that Booth was probably conservative about its admits this year because of over-enrollment last year, so there may well be movement on the list in the months to come. Stay focused. I am crossing my fingers for you.

For folks who got dinged, don't lose heart. There are very very few people on these boards who have not been or will not be rejected from at least one school they wanted to attend. I will be. Admissions committees don't always get it right, or they're forced to make difficult decisions, and it's their loss - and in a sense ours, too, those of us who have been admitted. If you made it this far, you scored an interview. You had recommenders who praised you. You had a compelling profile. You had an advocate on the admissions committee. Good work!

Now, you too, stay motivated if you can, if this is what you really want. Another school this year or Booth next year or taking on more responsibilities at your current job -- wherever you end up, use this rejection as a motivation to do so well that in fifteen years Adcoms all over the country will be kicking themselves for not recruiting you with mad love and dollars.
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Re: Calling Fall 2010 Chicago Booth Applicants [#permalink] New post 29 Oct 2009, 12:44
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adabass wrote:
Got my interview invite this morning - what is meant by "I can do only one successful alumni search"?


It means exactly that....unlike Wharton where you can search up to 9 alums and try to find the "easiest" one...for Chicago, it is what it is...if your alum is a j*rk you are stuck with it...


how do u search for the ONE alumni - does the application system throw up a random name or can u type in his/her name??

and again, what about wharton - are the 9 alums random?

(sorry, haven't received an invite but i'm really curious! :) )


In the case of Chicago, you input your country/state/city and then in shows only one alum and that's it...the system actually sends an email to the alum saying that he will be your interviewer and that you will contact him.

In the case of Wharton, the system works differently, you can search alums by different criteria and it will show you a maximum of 3 results for each search and you can search until you get 9 results. Once you reach to 9, then you have to contact one of those 9...
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