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Calling Stanford Fall 2008 Applicants [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2007, 11:43
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Ok, starting a thread for each of the schools I'm applying to (hope that's ok) and didn't find one for this year (Fall 2008) yet.

Who else is applying? I'm going for R1. I live right next to the school, so I'll be visiting quite a bit, talking to student clubs (already went to their excellent infosession), hopefully meeting some adcom people, etc.

If anyone is visiting in the area, let me know (post here or PM me), maybe we can meet up and discuss!

Status - 4/4/2008

R1: Admitted: 1, Dinged: 11, W/L 1, Unknown: 6
R2: Admitted: 0, Dinged 8, W/L 3, Unknown 10


Stanford Applicants R1: Total - 19
terry12 - R1 - ACCEPTED!
dahcrap - R1 - Waitlisted w/o interview
Kryzak - R1 - Ding
IrishFan - R1 - Ding
wisepig - R1 - Ding
toploader - R1 - Ding
skaballet - R1 - Ding
nick_sun - R1 - Ding
red_s4 - R1 - Ding
jc2010 - R1 - Ding
sangoman - R1 - Ding
collegesenior - R1 - Ding
grad_mba - R1 - Ding after Interview
JamieK - R1 - Submitted
deepuaries - R1 - Submitted
abhishek.sardana - R1 - Submitted
just4u1530 - R1 - Submitted
dextrous - R1 - Submitted
ran chen - R1 - Submitted

Stanford Applicants R2: Total - 22
sudden - R2 - Waitlisted w/ interview
elhajoui - R2 - Waitlisted w/ interview
Wanderlustman - R2 - Waitlisted w/ interview
futuredukemba - R2 - Waitlisted w/o interview
UTdub - R2 - Dinged after Interview
ghgirl - R2 - Dinged after Interview
uphillclimb - R2 - Dinged after Interview
kwam - R2 - Dinged
bherronp - R2 - Dinged
TJ - R2 - Dinged
togafoot - R2 - Dinged
BCC145 - R2 - Dinged
hbs.aspirant - R2 - Submitting 1/7
dox - R2 - Submitted
trojan812 - R2 - Submitted 1/7
poochandi - R2 - Submitted 1/7
JJGooden - R2 - Submitted
malumier - R2 - Submitted
JingChan - R2 - Submitted?
iamjoesargeant - R2 - Submitted?
senseshnal - R2 - Submitted?
clarksdv2 - R2 - Submitted
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Re: Calling Stanford Fall 2008 Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2008, 11:24
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OK-

Inspired by forcefeed's terrific HBS debrief, I thought I'd post some thoughts on the Stanford experience. Keep in mind, Stanford's process is pretty unpredictable, and I come into the B-school application experience from a pretty unusual background. So, take what I say with many grains of salt :)

I eventually want to write an "Evolution of My B-School Pursuit" post. However, if I want to match up to the incredible example set by ncprasad and others, it'll have to wait 'til later.

One more thing (and I'll expand on this when I write that other Evolution post)- thanks so much to everyone here. This really is an amazing community.

Essays

Essay A. What matters most to you, and why?

The most infamous essay question of 'em all. There’s no way I can offer any sort of magic standardized approach here. As many others have said, I think this question requires a lot of introspection and honesty. Write what you really feel, as long as you can substantively back it up in some way.

Essay B. What are your aspirations? How will your education at Stanford help you achieve them?

There’s some debate as to whether you should try to link essays 1 and 2. Again, I think this is a very personal choice. In my case, I was able to link them because it flowed logically. I spoke at length about particular courses and programs at Stanford that would help me achieve my goals. I certainly also stressed the new curriculum. As a non-traditional applicant, the individualized/flexible approach is really ideal.

Essays C.

These essays are a bit more straightforward. Don’t have anything particularly noteworthy to say here.

One note in general about the essays- there was a fair amount of consternation about the page limits. Obviously, I'm only one applicant. But I did hew closely to the page limits, using Times New Roman 12 and MS Word's pre-set margins and spacing. I'm generally a pretty concise writer (sometimes too concise!), so I was able to get everything I needed in that format. I have no idea whether that made a difference.

Interview

I don’t think I’ve heard of a really nasty/confrontational Stanford GSB interview. Most take a pleasant and conversational tone. You should have a clear idea of why you need an MBA (no different from any other interview), and you do have to have a pretty clear idea of “Why Stanford." My interviewer pressed me a bit on those points. When I was able to answer them, he switched into selling mode. He was incredibly enthusiastic and did a great job getting me excited about the GSB… I walked out of the interview realizing that Stanford had clearly moved up to no. 1 on my personal B-school list.

Visits, etc.

I don't think these are as important at Stanford as they are at Haas, Sloan, etc. I’ve never been to the GSB, and I attended a single information session prior to the application deadline. After getting an interview, I did talk to some alumni in my extended network. However, most of my knowledge of Stanford came from a thorough search of the website (there’s a ton of info there). As long as you can clearly answer “Why Stanford?” in your essays and interview, you should be fine.

Summary

As Stanford’s process is probably the most idiosyncratic of any of the big schools, I can’t offer any one-word advice analogous to the “leadership” sought at HBS, or the “fit” at Wharton. I’m not exactly sure what the GSB Adcom is looking for. Probably the best general advice I’ve seen comes from a controversial source: Sandy on the B-Week forum. Yeah, I know he can be crass and bullying. But he often knows what he’s talking about. When he refers to Stanford, he often talks about “saving the world.” I really think Stanford’s looking for that sort of ambition in whatever you do.

I hope this has been helpful. Obviously, I'll do my best to answer any questions anyone might have.

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 [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2007, 09:40
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Your goals / aspirations essay naturally needs you to take a brief look at your past growth - as that defines where you want to go from here. Your resume is another place that shows the progression. And if the Stanford application is anything like the Wharton application, then while filling in your employment information, you'll get enough opportunity to explain your progression and the driving forces behind it.

ps. The combination of essays that a school asks you to write gives you the biggest hint on what matters to a school. If Stanford is not giving you much opportunity to show your career progression, then perhaps Stanford is not that much interested in getting a lot of details about you career progression. So do not try to "fit in" the career progression into another essay just because you couldn't fit it anywhere else. You may end up weakening your essay for no reason.
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Re: Calling Stanford Fall 2008 Applicants [#permalink] New post 07 Feb 2008, 13:56
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Here you go... first my original interview post, then a snippet from my post-admit "debrief" reflecting on the interview.

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Met with a recent grad in a nearby Starbucks. Unbelievably nice guy. It was essentially a conversation about my goals, and how I thought Stanford would help me achieve them.

He started off by introducing himself and talked a little bit about what he loved about Stanford.

He then asked me to talk about my experiences and what shaped me and my goals... starting with childhood! That threw me off for a second, but I went ahead and talked about my family, music activities, and schooling. When I started to talk about what motivated me to enter medicine in the first place, the interview really took a more conversational turn, eventually leading to the obvious questions about why MBA and why Stanford. Whenever I mentioned an experience or a goal, he would either ask a follow up or tell me how Stanford could help achieve that goal. It really was a conversation... I don't remember any specific questions he asked.

As that conversation wound down, he leafed through a notebook he had brought and said, "Well, I should ask at least one standard interview question. Tell me about a time you failed, and what you learned from it." I answered it, and he seemed satisfied with the response. Then I got to ask him some questions about his experience at the GSB. He was incredibly enthusiastic and spoke at length. In all, interview lasted ~45 minutes.

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I don’t think I’ve heard of a really nasty/confrontational Stanford GSB interview. Most take a pleasant and conversational tone. You should have a clear idea of why you need an MBA (no different from any other interview), and you do have to have a pretty clear idea of “Why Stanford." My interviewer pressed me a bit on those points. When I was able to answer them, he switched into selling mode. He was incredibly enthusiastic and did a great job getting me excited about the GSB… I walked out of the interview realizing that Stanford had clearly moved up to no. 1 on my personal B-school list.
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2007, 21:21
I am in :)
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 [#permalink] New post 19 Jul 2007, 13:05
good luck with this one. Last year we (G'clubbers) had all dings except for a guy with a W/L. I don't know what happened in the end with the waitlisted guy, though.

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 [#permalink] New post 19 Jul 2007, 14:53
Agree with lepium, S is a tough nut to crack...maybe even tougher than H. I applied last year and was dinged WO an interview.

So good luck and all the power to everyone who applies. I visited the campus and loved the location.
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 [#permalink] New post 25 Jul 2007, 20:12
Wow, S is not getting too much love from GMATClub ! Is it because of S not showing any love to GMATClub last year?

kryzak, you and grad_mba seem to be the only ones applying in R1 (So far). I may lock horns with S in R2 (And get as much use of your experience from R1 as possible).
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 [#permalink] New post 25 Jul 2007, 20:56
not for me.. :)

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 [#permalink] New post 25 Jul 2007, 22:01
mNeo - if ur planning on Stanford, i strongly suggest that you shoot for R1 .. thts exactly what the students specifically told when I was there on a campus visit ..
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2007, 08:36
Thanks for the suggestion, grad_mba. Yeah, I've been trying to see whether I can finish my other two apps by late Sep. That'll give me almost one month for an S app (A month seems to be the minimum that I'd have to spend on this tough app).
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2007, 08:58
"Just the two of us... we can make it if we try..." ;)

Anyway, grad_mba, where you at? We should help each other out.

Stanford will be a dream school to get in, but I understand my chances (I might as well go pull some slots in Vegas to try to retire early! =P I'm definitely applying R1 to maximize my chances and make me stand out a little more (since I'm in an impacted demographic). I hope being an alum of the school might give me a slight edge.

I'll be working on Stanford's app LAST, after Berkeley and UCLA, so I'll have enough practice by then. But I'm beginning to brainstorm the essay questions already.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2007, 21:04
haha sure we can give a shot at stanford !!

a quote from one of the adcoms i read somewhere -

"I cannot guarantee that you will be admitted if you apply, on the other hand, I can guarantee that you will not be admitted if you do not apply"
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Jul 2007, 00:06
haha, I have heard that... I think the adcom person giving the infosession said it too. speaking of which, Stanford has a VERY professional and good infosession.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2007, 20:35
Hey kryzak,

Can you list out some of the tit-bits that you picked up in the infosession.......
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2007, 20:41
Hrm... it was a while ago, but they emphasized the flexible curriculum that they're using for Fall 2007. I don't think I learned anything that I couldn't have learned from the website, but it was my first infosession, so I didn't have that many questions to ask. If I find anything in my notes after the GMAT test this weekend, I'll post them.

Anything specific you wanted to know?
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Aug 2007, 23:04
thanks man!!!

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 [#permalink] New post 02 Aug 2007, 23:43
Count me in for R1. Does Stan have any infosessions in INDIA?

I haven't found any yet.

What kind of questions does the adcom think are not dumb to ask in the infosessions?
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 [#permalink] New post 03 Aug 2007, 07:39
abhishek.sardana wrote:
What kind of questions does the adcom think are not dumb to ask in the infosessions?


Aah .. the magical doubt that keeps most of us quiet in front of the adcoms at the infosessions. :-D
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 [#permalink] New post 03 Aug 2007, 08:02
I'd love to go to Stanford, but I think that my efforts are best spent on other schools.
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