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So, I Got a 670 (84%) Q:47 (76%) V:35 (74%). I'm not overly ecstatic, but not terribly disappointed either. This was pretty much the lowest "acceptable" score for me. It's still a solid score, I just REALLY wanted that 7 in the hundreds place - sue me. At least, I don't believe that I killed my shot at any of my target schools (my GPA, well that's another story..at least I got a 3.97 in my MA program).

I was fairly confident going in to this exam, especially on the quant section. After the the first try, I went out and purchased the MGMAT Advanced Quant book. I cannot stress to everyone how crucial this book was to getting me those extra 3 points in quant (and could have been more, more on that in a bit). It really helped shape or reshape, depending on how you look at it, the way I view a lot of the questions I was either having difficulty with or wasn't really sure how to solve. If you've done all the MGMAT books and still need a little extra something, that book is it. I also purchased the CR Bible, and went through it, did all the exercises. It's a solid book, but I'm not really sure how much it helped (not that much obviously). It outlines the concepts and different questions very well, and it is certainly worth a read...but I think that, by nature, the CR questions are better mastered by scrutinizing the OG questions. Don't take it from me though, obviously :lol:

So on to today's test.

I wasn't anywhere as nervous this time around as I was the first time. I was more relaxed, and more importantly, I was more confident in my abilities than I was that I would get the score I was looking for (if that makes any sense). Having been through the routine once already definitely helped the nerves a bit...test day experience is huge. Sometimes I wish I would have had that perspective at the start of my studying so I could envision what I was in for from the start. Expensive lesson when you know the score is a throwaway...I just say that to stress the importance of familiarity to such a stressful and perhaps traumatizing :o event.

It was the same proctor as the time before. Everything about the check in routine was essentially the same. Decided against the 5 hour energy drink this time though, for whatever that's worth (hey, the debrief says to be detailed!)

Essay - I reviewed the Chinese Burned essay from GMAT Club this morning before heading out, only to go totally blank when I sat down to write...DOH! Not a huge deal, I had the general gist of it. I felt better about the essays I wrote today than about the essays from last month. In fact I didn't even finish the last sentence on my second essay last time and still got a 5.5. This time I finished each with about 5 minutes left and don't think I could have added anything if I wanted. I'd be totally shocked if I got less than a 5.5.

Quant - I took a GMAT Focus test 2 days ago, and one last night. I got 47-51 on the first and 44-49 on the second (80% confidence interval), so the scoring is pretty dead on. I was doing it less for the score and more to get my mind trained to to work through official problems in a timed/pressured situation. It's totally worth it, as I only saw a couple repeats. After working through Advanced MGMAT questions all month, it was a nice change of pace and definitely got my brain working in the right way. I would definitely recommend it if you've got a little cash to spare 24 questions/45 minutes, so it's not overly strenuous. As far as the test, again, totally blanked on the first question, it was a weighted average question, which I am usually OK with, but had NO clue how to solve it. Kind freaked me a little bit...at best got me unsettled. Worked through the next few questions and definitely felt like I found my groove. Tried to stay aware of the time during the entire section. I was doing great, until there was a 'series' question around #27. I probably spent 5-6 minutes on it...stupid, I know. I took the wrong approach initially, but I knew I could get there and just couldn't let it go. I know for a fact that I got the answer right, but who knows if it ended up killing me at the end. I think I had about 7 minutes for the last 5 questions. Doable, so I just kept chugging along and doing my best. Well, I rushed through the penultimate question, though I think I got it right. Then had about 45 seconds to get through the last...there was no way I had time to set up the equations etc...but I did it get down to 2 answers...I filled in the bubble and TIME!!! before I could hit 'Next'. Not sure if this counts as a guess or not...anybody know? Anyway, I was somewhat mortified as I went on break, thinking I has stupidly allowed myself to get penalized...especially after what I had been through the first time on verbal. I did manage to get it out of my head during the break and did not let it affect me during the verbal section. I am very happy with my quant score overall..I figured I would probably max out at 48, based on innate abilities alone.

Verbal - No real surprises here. Sentence correction did not seem anywhere as difficult this time around as it did last month. I put a huge emphasis on sentence correction by reviewing the MGMAT SC guide and re watching the SC lessons on the Knewton course. The CR and RC were all on par with what one would expect. Absolutely no curveballs on the verbal section. My timing was virtually impeccable on this section - I paced myself perfectly. I finished the last question, which was a SC question with about 30 seconds to spare. Though, I did rush through the 40th question, a CR, anticipating another CR question to close out the test. I saw no bold faced questions, a slight disappoint because I always found those to be the easiest for some reason. I am little miffed at my final score of 35 however. I was testing closer to 40 both before the previous test and the couple of practice tests I took. I am not sure what to really make of that...I never felt overly confused, rushed, or lost on any of the question (like last time!).

Overall, I am satisfied. I don't believe I will be taking the GMAT again, so I guess I will never be part of the 700 club. I'm OK with that...as long as my score is good enough to get me into at least one of my target schools, I am happy. That's the point of taking this test, right? RIGHT?!

A little background. I started studying mid September. I immediately signed up for the online Knewton course and had a diagnostic test of 570., First GMAT Prep on 9/3 was 550 (Q:36 V: 30) (HOLY CRAP!) Knewton course is really great. I thought it was particularly helpful to get the math basics down, but the SC sections were probably the most helpful. It was helpful having a person talking me through it rather than diving right in and staring at a book - MGMAT SC guide is pretty intimidating if you're just diving in right away. I also used all the MGMAT math guides. Number properties, word translation, and sytem/equations are absolute must haves in my opinion. The Geometry and Probability books are good to brush up, but if you aren't weak in those areas, I think you could find sufficient info online. During the last month of study I added MGMAT advanced quant book, which is so incredibly crucial to get your score into the 47-49 range if you are not there already. I also added the CR Bible - it was good, but I wish I had it from the start. Based on my performance, I would say that it did not add anything to my score, tough to really say though.

And lastly, thank you to everyone for the support. I swear if I had never found this forum I probably would have bought the OG one Kaplan guide, studied for a month, scored a 590 and called it quits. The wealth of knowledge and inspiration in this place with everyone's stories really is truly outstanding. I didn't get my goal of 700, which I felt I needed to offset my terrible GPA, but I think I've done well enough to at least not get tossed into the "No" pile. So cheers to that!
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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2011, 19:56
Excellent debrief!
I will say congratulations on your new score - and that I am very impressed with your good attitude. If you try your hardest in preparation, and then feel confident about your performance on exam day, what is there to be disappointed in?

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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2011, 05:43
Thanks I appreciate it! And good luck on your applications as well!

The only slight dissapointment is my verbal. I feel like I could have and should have done better, especially as a native speaker, but at the same time 76%/74%/84% split is something I can at least live with in context of the schools I am applying to. I'm pretty sure that if I at least get an interview invite I will be able to use my boyish charm to make up for whatever other deficiencies exist on my application :lol: .

The other slight dissapointment is not getting to confirm that last question...still wondering if my score would have been 48 if I would have just hit SUBMIT in time. I guess I will never truly know. Did some research online and have seen conflicting reports. Still happy with my quant though...I used the GMAC analyzer and saw that 47 is 94th percentile among Americans...I can live with that.
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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2011, 06:45
94th percentile? That is AWESOME! I wonder what my 48 is - how did you find out?

I think that's really useful context as demographics do matter to ad comms. (I'm a Midwestern white gal - and a humanities major to boot - so I totally believed that 48 was about as good as I could ever expect)

Again I commend you on your positive attitude! There are so many stories of people who beat themselves up for not scoring better than 98% of test takers and they're usually not giving themselves the credit they deserve.

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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2011, 07:38
http://www.gmac.com/NR/rdonlyres/AC32AD ... s.swf//url

That is the link I used to determine those percentages, it was previously posted on this forum at some point, I'm kind of surprised it doesn't get more discussoion. It is a really useful tool to see how you stack up against your peers, whether by gender, nationality, age group etc. For adjustment to US my %ile is Overall 86%, Quant 94%, Verbal 66% (ouch). I guess you can't put too much stock into it since we all must submit overall %ile breakdown, but at the same time, it's hard to imagine that the adcomms don't consider these factors.

I will be applying to Georgetown, UNC, BU, USC, and Washington-Seattle. First 3 apps go out next week...going to be a long weekend again! All those schools' median GMAT hover around 680, so I've at least stayed relevant in terms of GMAT score. It would have been nice to get a little higher to help offset my undergrade GPA...I think I have a solid profile otherwise (MA in International Relations, dual citizen, international work experience, confident in my essay writing abilities blah blah), so who knows. How about you, how are your apps coming? Looks like you have a few apps to work on yourself...
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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2011, 08:54
I read your entire post like a mystery novel, and I am so happy to hear that you got what you needed. You do seem like a person who is happy and positive. I wish all the luck to you for your future. Nice to read your post.

In my opinion, you already are a winner and have what it takes to be a great leader.
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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2011, 11:48
Thanks I appreciate it! I'm glad others were able to enjoy and perhaps learn a couple things from my story. It has definitely helped me just to get it out there; my friends don't want to hear it and I don't blame them! :lol: I've tried to stay positive throughout despite a couple bumps in the road...it's not an easy one. I would LOVE another crack at the test, but it just doesn't make sense with my time contraints. As long as I get into to one of my 5 choice schools, I will be 100% satisfied with score...my end goal isn't finance or consulting, so my GMAT score will not likely come up during employment interviews.

At this point, while everyone always strives for the best scores, I think that anything short of of 700 or 710 probably wouldn't make an incremental difference to strength of my application. I feel like I would probably need another month and half to get there on the verbal alone, as I've found that section to be much more difficult to make strides in, despite being a native speaker. I think it is in part because I don't read enough. :oops:
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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2011, 11:58
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Congratulations. Happy to hear the GMAT saga is over (and we all need closure).
I think your score is right on par with averages (within 20 points) at your target schools, so you are all set with that.



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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2011, 15:28
Thanks BB! So glad it's over, although, I would be lying if there is a part of me that isn't going to miss it. How demented is that? Also, thanks for posting that list...that is a really helpful of way organizing the schools. Hmm...I didn't realize I was -20 at UNC and Georgetown, I thought they were closer 680, wishful thinking I guess, though that doesn't change anything, will still be applying...I guess I will just have to make those essays extra good. And thanks for this amazing site, I seriously doubt business school would even be an option for me if not for this site! Seriously!

Also, I clicked through the quant section of GMAT prep and below is the result. I found conflicting results on various forums, including GMATClub, about whether the test will submit an answer if you fill in the bubble but do not hit "Next", so I tried it out on GMATPrep, and this was the result. It appears it DOES count the answer, assuming the actual GMAT functions exactly the way GMATPrep does. I filled the correct answer for #36 but did not hit next then let the time run down and it accepted it as the corrected answer but just omitted #37 altogether from the review screen. Not sure if that makes me feel better or worse, but it does appear I got all my answers in on time, even if the last one was a blind guess. It's possible that a correct answer, assuming I guessed incorrectly, would not have changed my scaled score anyway. Too bad, I was thinking about adressing this in my optional essays to explain why I didn't get a 48. :o

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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 06 Jan 2012, 00:25
Although 700+ would have been nice, the 670 should make you very competitive at your target schools. Best of luck in the application process!
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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 07 Jan 2012, 16:31
670 is a great score! Congrats!
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Re: Choke! (Q:44 V:33 - 640) -> OK, I guess! (Q:47 V:35 - 670) [#permalink] New post 08 Jan 2012, 09:00
So, how go the applications?

(I've got three in, three to finalize this week, first interview this week...)

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I have two submitted and still working through a couple more this week. I ended up missing the UNC deadline unfortunately..I just couldn't a put quality application together in time and I figure I would be better off submitting in last round rather than submitting a rushed application. Studying for the GMAT last month then having 3 deadlines in 3 days killed me. I've been working to complete it by today and will probably submit it tonight or tomorrow. I'll take studying for the GMAT over these essays any day!

Got one invite so far as well and interviewing on Thursday!

Must be nice to have almost all 3 in, being done with and sending an application off is such a great feeling. Good luck on interview!
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I have two submitted and still working through a couple more this week. I ended up missing the UNC deadline unfortunately..I just couldn't a put quality application together in time and I figure I would be better off submitting in last round rather than submitting a rushed application. Studying for the GMAT last month then having 3 deadlines in 3 days killed me. I've been working to complete it by today and will probably submit it tonight or tomorrow. I'll take studying for the GMAT over these essays any day!

Got one invite so far as well and interviewing on Thursday!

Must be nice to have almost all 3 in, being done with and sending an application off is such a great feeling. Good luck on interview!


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Update: I am in the incredibly fortunate position to turn down a generous fellowship offer for my top choice. I thought for sure I would get dinged across the board. I am totally humbled and I could not be happier. Thanks for the all the support everyone. I am certain I would not have had the know-how or motivation to crack 600 without this site.

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Update: I am in the incredibly fortunate position to turn down a generous fellowship offer for my top choice. I thought for sure I would get dinged across the board. I am totally humbled and I could not be happier. Thanks for the all the support everyone. I am certain I would not have had the know-how or motivation to crack 600 without this site.

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Update: I am in the incredibly fortunate position to turn down a generous fellowship offer for my top choice. I thought for sure I would get dinged across the board. I am totally humbled and I could not be happier. Thanks for the all the support everyone. I am certain I would not have had the know-how or motivation to crack 600 without this site.

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FANTASTIC!!! MANY CONGRATS


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