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 [#permalink] New post 14 Apr 2005, 19:47
Thanks all.

wonderful discussion.

OA is E.
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Re: CR070123--chronic back pain [#permalink] New post 14 Apr 2005, 20:19
Fact 1: Back pain is caused by bad spinal disk.
Fact 2: For some people, back pain does not develop until many years after the bad spinal disk happens.
Fact 3: In this case the back pain would likely materialize by deterioration of some muscles.

(A) Four out of five people over the age of 30 can be sure they will never develop chronic back pain.
We know nothing about who wont' get back pains.

(B) People who exercise their abdominal and spinal muscles regularly are sure to be free from chronic back pain.
Lack of exercise may help developing back pains but exercising doesn't warrantee no back pain.

(C) Patients rarely suffer even mild and fleeting back pain at the time that a spinal disk first becomes herniated or degenerated.
Some patients doesn't suffer at the time, other patients do.

(D) Doctors can accurately predict which people who do not have chronic back pain will develop it in the future.
Yes, doctors can look at people's spinal disk and see if they are bad.

(E) There is a strategy that can be effective in delaying or preventing the onset of pain from a currently asymptomatic herniated or degenerated spinal disk.
Exercising may help delaying it, but we don't know if it is effective from the passage.

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 [#permalink] New post 14 Apr 2005, 20:23
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E, the other choices are too strong
in A "can be sure"
in B "are sure"
in C "rarely"
in D "accurately"


Good point. In E it says it "can" be effective. It didn't say it "must" be effective. In D "accurately" does seem too strong, for some people with bad spinal disk may never develop pains. This question is testing the relative vs the absolute. I agree with E.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Apr 2005, 20:35
ywilfred wrote:
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I will go with 'E'

Since we are told only about patients not having chronic pain 'C' cannot be concluded from the given statements.


C doesn't say the patient doesn't have chronic pain. It says the patient does not experience pain the first time the spinal disk becomes herniated. The passage tells us the chronic pain comes after a while, not immediate.


wilfred "C" can't be right...."C" talks abt ppl rarely getting mild and fleeting back pain, however, psg talks abt of chronic pains not occuring, 2 separate things. According to the psg we only know abt chronis pains and nothing abt mild pains etc.


Hi, the question is mild and fleeting back pains <> chronic pains,
'fleeting' means short-term, while 'chronic' means long-term.

right?


Yes, but C says the patient does not experience short term pain at the first time he gets a degenerated disk. That's because he should be experiencing chronic pain. The opening premise tells us that.


Hi, is this a bit of overthinking?
From the passage we just know about the chronic (long-term) pains, I don't know how to infer the short-term pains? After all, they are two different pains. That one who doesn't develop short-term pains doesn't means he will necessary develop long-term pains. Right?
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chunjuwu wrote:
ywilfred wrote:
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ywilfred wrote:
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I will go with 'E'

Since we are told only about patients not having chronic pain 'C' cannot be concluded from the given statements.


C doesn't say the patient doesn't have chronic pain. It says the patient does not experience pain the first time the spinal disk becomes herniated. The passage tells us the chronic pain comes after a while, not immediate.


wilfred "C" can't be right...."C" talks abt ppl rarely getting mild and fleeting back pain, however, psg talks abt of chronic pains not occuring, 2 separate things. According to the psg we only know abt chronis pains and nothing abt mild pains etc.


Hi, the question is mild and fleeting back pains <> chronic pains,
'fleeting' means short-term, while 'chronic' means long-term.

right?


Yes, but C says the patient does not experience short term pain at the first time he gets a degenerated disk. That's because he should be experiencing chronic pain. The opening premise tells us that.


Hi, is this a bit of overthinking?
From the passage we just know about the chronic (long-term) pains, I don't know how to infer the short-term pains? After all, they are two different pains. That one who doesn't develop short-term pains doesn't means he will necessary develop long-term pains. Right?
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It's correct to say that one who doesn't develop short term paisn doesn't mean he will nescessarily develop long term pains. But then, we're told in the passage "Chronic back pain is usually caused by a herniated or degenerated spinal disk.". So if you have a herniated or degenerated spinal disk, you'll get chronic pain. That's what I was saying :-D
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Apr 2005, 21:21
But I agree that the wording in C is too strong. Afterall the passage says Chronic pain isusually caused by herinated/damaged disk, not Chronic pain is caused only by a herniated/damaged disk.
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