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Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at [#permalink]
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Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them
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jerrycat21 wrote: B,D, E are out. Not idiamatic.
a. so (x) as to be (Y).... correct idiom
c. so (x) that (y).... also correct idiom
the catch is in C "unable to be distinguished"... it can be summed up in on word "indistinguishable". So, A is preferred. Shorter & precise.
Although brevity is rewarded on the GMAT, we need to look at this sentence a little closer. Notice the non-underlined portion that follows contains the word "from."
Four reasons why I stand by (C):
1. Use of the active voice (always preferred)
2. ....distinguish X from Y... is also idiomatic.
3. "as to be" is an all time favorite ETS trap
4. "they" has a clear referent ---> climatic shifts
OA please.
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(C)
...so...(adverb)...that... is the preferred idiom on the GMAT
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I like D.
I think we can use "enough not to be" and it is also idiomatic.
Need some more views.
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B,D, E are out. Not idiamatic.
a. so (x) as to be (Y).... correct idiom
c. so (x) that (y).... also correct idiom
the catch is in C "unable to be distinguished"... it can be summed up in on word "indistinguishable". So, A is preferred. Shorter & precise.
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Re: SC: Climatic Shift [#permalink]
17 Jan 2006, 08:10
laxieqv wrote: gmacvik wrote: Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them a straight C. hey laxieqv....... I am stuck b/w C & E ....I chose "E"
can u explain WHY "C" IS CORRECT AND why "E" is wrong..
VIVEK , where are you ??????? 
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Re: SC: Climatic Shift [#permalink]
17 Jan 2006, 08:19
jinesh wrote: laxieqv wrote: gmacvik wrote: Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them a straight C. hey laxieqv....... I am stuck b/w C & E ....I chose "E" can u explain WHY "C" IS CORRECT AND why "E" is wrong.. VIVEK , where are you ??????? correct structure : ..... so ......that ......
or ........adj enough (for someone) to .........
E is clearly unidiomatic.
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Re: SC: Climatic Shift [#permalink]
17 Jan 2006, 08:26
Quote: ....... I am stuck b/w C & E ....I chose "E"
can u explain WHY "C" IS CORRECT AND why "E" is wrong..
gradual enough is not idiomatic with so.............that.
in between so and that only comes adj.
gradual enough is adv adj.
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Re: SC: Climatic Shift [#permalink]
17 Jan 2006, 08:36
HIMALAYA wrote: Quote: ....... I am stuck b/w C & E ....I chose "E"
can u explain WHY "C" IS CORRECT AND why "E" is wrong.. gradual enough is not idiomatic with so.............that. in between so and that only comes adj. gradual enough is adv adj. _________________
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Think I am going to differ with the crowd here and go with A...
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I would go with A
so.... as to is correct idiom..
"They" in C looks dicey.
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A sounds good...
Since PR says so[adjective] as to [verb] is fine....
there are two types of idioms here..
so .. that
or so .. as to..
C also looks good but too wordy... hence A..
BTW.. I could nto solve this in 2 mins.... I had to go back and look at books.. I would have mostly gone for C under time pressure..
What is OA?
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vivek123 wrote: Only 'A' is the best!
so X as to be Y
good to c u vivek..
wats wrong with "C".....
so gradual that they are......correct use of idiom !!!
You chose A coz its short and concise? , compared to C which is wordy ???????
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jinesh wrote: vivek123 wrote: Only 'A' is the best!
so X as to be Y good to c u vivek.. wats wrong with "C"..... so gradual that they are......correct use of idiom !!! You chose A coz its short and concise? , compared to C which is wordy ??????? Yeah, I missed the club  I was gone to Singapore for a day on urgent business trip.
Yes, 'C' is clear in meaning but is wordy by putting 'a clause', 'A' does the same job just by putting 'a noun'
"so gradual as to be indistinguishable " is good enough AND
"so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished " is wordy, same meaning is conveyed by 'A' in economical way!
"so X as to be Y" is correct idiom; also, look at it this way, closely:
"Xs are indistinguishable" VS "Xs are unable to be distinguished" , former is concise.
as far as other choices are concerned,
B - "so....that" form is needed.
D - "gradual enough to do something" is better & correct form
E - "gradual enough to do something" is better & correct form
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I go with A.
I ruled out C on the grounds that it unncessarily mentions " unable..distinguished" which basically means "indistinguishable"
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I am also going with A.
OA please... 
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OA is A. I was away for a last few days, hence is the delay in posting the OA. The explainations provided by Himalaya, vivek123 & jerrycat21 were awesome.Thanks guys
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Will "gradual enough to be indistinguishable" be as correct as A ?
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I'll go for C. The reason why D is wrong is that the proper idiom for D should be " X enough to Y." This idiom is used when x is the criteria by which an ability to achieve y is measured.
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Re: SC: Climatic Shift [#permalink]
26 Nov 2007, 05:13
gmacvik wrote: Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them
A.
Choice is b/w A & C. A uses 'so X as to be Y' while C uses 'so X that Y'.
Though GMAT prefers the latter, C leaves the question open that they are unable to be distinguished by whom?
Though 'so X to Y' is the correct idiom, in this case 'to be' is required since the sentence does not specify who is doing the distinguishing.
A should be correct.
What's the OA?
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