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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 09:35
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The first 50 minutes of the interview went fine. While the questions were tough ("give me a ballpark estimate of how many brand managers get hired every year" "Besides the six companies and three industries you mentioned that use brand management, what other companies recruit at Columbia for your desired field?").

I was answering them pretty well, I thought. But near the end the interviewer asked me how I chose him as my interview contact. I replied that I followed the instructions on Columbia's letter, which was to contact the first person on the list of three. He became visibly upset at this and told me that I had done it wrong: rather, I should have done research on all three Ambassadors and chose my contact that way, as in business you're supposed to vie for every advantage. I replied that while I agree in theory with that, I wasn't about to try and cross the admissions committee on this. He noted that someone he interviewed just the week prior had done this very thing, and had chosen him because they had a lot in common.
Then he started lecturing me about the importance of seizing the advantage in networking, noted that I'm competing against my fellow students "including the guy with two years' of experience at McKinsey who is just interviewing for fun, but who looks better on paper."

He then asked me why I was applying so late and to so few schools. I replied that I had applied to five schools and submitted my application to Columbia on November 20. He said that was too late and to too few schools, and didn't seem optimistic about my chances of getting in.

Honestly, none of his advice was bad or unwelcome (though I still disagree about not following Columbia's instructions), but the tone of the conversation took a very negative turn near the end. I'm not sure if I was unlucky, if I said the wrong thing, if he was trying to push my buttons or that's just his manner.


I'm amazed that you were given the estimation question in an interview for an MBA program... did you indicate you are in (and going for) consulting?

I went through many pages of CBS interview experience posts on clearadmit.com and don't remember any interviews like this... I'm sorry you had an interview like this, and for your ding :( I hope you have better luck with other interviews


Thanks, I hope so too!

I'm in marketing and communications right now, and hope to make a switch to marketing-brand management. So the questions about brand management weren't far afield at all. I have 'leadership' as a secondary interest because I've done a lot of speechwriting for CEOs and communicating change management messages, and I might be interested in keeping my hand in that during school, either for corporate marketing or shareholder-type communications.
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 13:08
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The first 50 minutes of the interview went fine. While the questions were tough ("give me a ballpark estimate of how many brand managers get hired every year" "Besides the six companies and three industries you mentioned that use brand management, what other companies recruit at Columbia for your desired field?").

I was answering them pretty well, I thought. But near the end the interviewer asked me how I chose him as my interview contact. I replied that I followed the instructions on Columbia's letter, which was to contact the first person on the list of three. He became visibly upset at this and told me that I had done it wrong: rather, I should have done research on all three Ambassadors and chose my contact that way, as in business you're supposed to vie for every advantage. I replied that while I agree in theory with that, I wasn't about to try and cross the admissions committee on this. He noted that someone he interviewed just the week prior had done this very thing, and had chosen him because they had a lot in common.
Then he started lecturing me about the importance of seizing the advantage in networking, noted that I'm competing against my fellow students "including the guy with two years' of experience at McKinsey who is just interviewing for fun, but who looks better on paper."

He then asked me why I was applying so late and to so few schools. I replied that I had applied to five schools and submitted my application to Columbia on November 20. He said that was too late and to too few schools, and didn't seem optimistic about my chances of getting in.

Honestly, none of his advice was bad or unwelcome (though I still disagree about not following Columbia's instructions), but the tone of the conversation took a very negative turn near the end. I'm not sure if I was unlucky, if I said the wrong thing, if he was trying to push my buttons or that's just his manner.


I'm amazed that you were given the estimation question in an interview for an MBA program... did you indicate you are in (and going for) consulting?

I went through many pages of CBS interview experience posts on clearadmit.com and don't remember any interviews like this... I'm sorry you had an interview like this, and for your ding :( I hope you have better luck with other interviews


Thanks, I hope so too!

I'm in marketing and communications right now, and hope to make a switch to marketing-brand management. So the questions about brand management weren't far afield at all. I have 'leadership' as a secondary interest because I've done a lot of speechwriting for CEOs and communicating change management messages, and I might be interested in keeping my hand in that during school, either for corporate marketing or shareholder-type communications.


Wow, that story is ridiculous! I'm sorry to hear that was your experience Fool (ha sorry I just had to). If that had been me I probably would have gotten extremely defensive and angry. I interviewed about a week ago. I went with your thinking and picked the first person on the list because that is what they said to do. My interviewer was perfectly nice, if not a tad standoffish. But I'm not trying to make a new friend here, she is simply there taking time out of her busy work day to interview me. She certainly didn't ask me any questions like that. She asked me the standard "what are your goals why columbia", "what clubs are you most excited about, how will you contribute", "give me a time you showed leadership at work" questions and said "oh and the only question I have to ask you is what a professional setback you have faced is". She also asked me the ethical dilemma question, which I totally bombed. I was expecting it and before my answer seemed fine but once I said it to her I realized it was pretty bad.

I think with Columbia where they have so many alumni interviewers you can either get someone really great or not so great. Unfortunately you got someone awful, and it's unfortunate you didn't get in, because if you did you would have had more leverage to warn the school about him.
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 15:18
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Wow, that story is ridiculous! I'm sorry to hear that was your experience Fool (ha sorry I just had to). If that had been me I probably would have gotten extremely defensive and angry. I interviewed about a week ago. I went with your thinking and picked the first person on the list because that is what they said to do. My interviewer was perfectly nice, if not a tad standoffish. But I'm not trying to make a new friend here, she is simply there taking time out of her busy work day to interview me. She certainly didn't ask me any questions like that. She asked me the standard "what are your goals why columbia", "what clubs are you most excited about, how will you contribute", "give me a time you showed leadership at work" questions and said "oh and the only question I have to ask you is what a professional setback you have faced is". She also asked me the ethical dilemma question, which I totally bombed. I was expecting it and before my answer seemed fine but once I said it to her I realized it was pretty bad.

I think with Columbia where they have so many alumni interviewers you can either get someone really great or not so great. Unfortunately you got someone awful, and it's unfortunate you didn't get in, because if you did you would have had more leverage to warn the school about him.


I'm glad you got someone really great - and that interview sounds like it went well! Congrats! Also it's good to hear someone else thought to follow the instructions. I'm glad to know that I wasn't just that schmuck who didn't get the memo about ignoring the Columbia interview instructions :wink:
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2013, 07:00
Hi guys. Just got dinged without interview. I submitted around Christmas. All the best to those still waiting to hear back.
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2013, 11:09
How are you guys receiving your responses for both ADMITTED and DENIED? Email or Mail?
I am waiting for a response too.

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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2013, 11:39
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How are you guys receiving your responses for both ADMITTED and DENIED? Email or Mail?
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2013, 12:05
Tks for the response!
If accepted do you get an email or only the acceptance package per mail?
Just so I know what to expect when I get an email (the response or obly a ding)

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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2013, 12:08
You get a phone call if you're accepted and then get an email later. My experience at least...
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2013, 21:51
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You get a phone call if you're accepted and then get an email later. My experience at least...


Hey Guys,

I will be submitting my application in a couple of days and have a question for you all. I spoke to my recommender and he told me that there are no word-counts for the recommendation questions. His letter runs over six pages :o and I wanted to check with you all on if this kind of length would be OK. I personally think that this is very long. 4 pages should be more than good. My recommender is trying to cite example for questions like "List three to five adjectives describing applicants strengths" Giving examples for all three to four adjectives is making this letter very long.

Any suggestions ? :)
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 26 Jan 2013, 17:21
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You get a phone call if you're accepted and then get an email later. My experience at least...


This is correct. Interview invite is an automated email, dings and wait lists are also automated emails. Acceptances are given via phone call. You should get a call from a blocked number. You won't get an email or website update until after the call, even if you miss the call. I missed the call on a Friday afternoon at work and had to wait until Tuesday for them to call again, I was going crazy.
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Jan 2013, 11:01
Did the admissions call you or did you receive a phone call from your interviewer?

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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 08:36
Just got dinged after interview.

App submitted: 12/6/2012
Invited for interview: 1/3/2013
Interviewed: 1/9/2013
Feedback Submitted: 1/18/2013
Decision Released: 1/28/2013

My interview was fine, no tough questions and pretty straightforward. I clearly indicated my desire to stay in NYC and commitment to CBS, man this sucks.

Should I reach out to my interviewer for feedback? The interview went well, but my interviewer didn't submit feedback for more than a week, and after I sent a reminder e-mail, the feedback was submitted very fast, early next morning...
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 08:52
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Just got in off the waitlist.

Got a call this morning, I'm in. Doing the Pre-MBA World Tour for 2 months for sure, who's down?


Congratulations! Just curious, what was your timeline - when did you interview, when were you waitlisted, etc.? I interviewed on 1/17, feedback was submitted on 1/18, and now I'm playing the waiting game.
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 09:09
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Just got in off the waitlist.

Got a call this morning, I'm in. Doing the Pre-MBA World Tour for 2 months for sure, who's down?


Congratulations! Just curious, what was your timeline - when did you interview, when were you waitlisted, etc.? I interviewed on 1/17, feedback was submitted on 1/18, and now I'm playing the waiting game.


Didn't have to wait much longer. Just got the ding.
Applied: 10/30
Invited to interview: 12/13
Interviewed: 1/17
Feedback submitted: 1/18
Dinged: 1/28

Thought the interview went really well. My interviewer ended things by saying that he thought I'd be a great fit for the program. Good luck to everyone still awaiting decisions.
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 09:35
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Just got in off the waitlist.

Got a call this morning, I'm in. Doing the Pre-MBA World Tour for 2 months for sure, who's down?






Congrats!! What was your timeline: applied, interview, waitlisted, etc?
I am also on the waitlist, timeline-
Applied: Aug. 9, 2012
Invited to interview: Sept. 17, 2012
Interview feedback: Sept. 26, 2012
Waitlisted: Oct. 9, 2012
Admissions sent us a mail stating that they will respect the Feb. 1 deadline to notify the early decision waitlisted applicants
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 10:35
Question for the group:
I sent an email to one of the 3 folks on the interviewer list. He hasn't responded yet (only 2 business days...plus a weekend). His email was not common (it was for a company he started on the side), but on his CV I found by googling him, I found a more common email related to his full time job. Should I forward it to this email, or is that inappropriate? I want to have a great interview, and our backgrounds/interests are very aligned, whereas the other two interviewers work in very different areas than myself.

Thanks for any advice on this!
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 11:22
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Question for the group:
I sent an email to one of the 3 folks on the interviewer list. He hasn't responded yet (only 2 business days...plus a weekend). His email was not common (it was for a company he started on the side), but on his CV I found by googling him, I found a more common email related to his full time job. Should I forward it to this email, or is that inappropriate? I want to have a great interview, and our backgrounds/interests are very aligned, whereas the other two interviewers work in very different areas than myself.
Thanks for any advice on this!


I wouldnt contact the interviewer through a different email that is registered at CBS.
I had trouble finding interviewers too. Most of them with old emails and no response.
Wait a few days if he doesnt respond try another interviewer. Best of luck!

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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 11:33
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Question for the group:
I sent an email to one of the 3 folks on the interviewer list. He hasn't responded yet (only 2 business days...plus a weekend). His email was not common (it was for a company he started on the side), but on his CV I found by googling him, I found a more common email related to his full time job. Should I forward it to this email, or is that inappropriate? I want to have a great interview, and our backgrounds/interests are very aligned, whereas the other two interviewers work in very different areas than myself.

Thanks for any advice on this!


Hmm, my personal opinion would be to not email that other address. I would think he would know that he receives requests at the email address you were provided so it would stand out if he received it at this other email. Maybe it wouldn't bother him, but he might find it odd/off-putting that you stalked him to get it. I feel like your downside is larger than your upside in that situation.

It's interesting because you want to meet w someone who has similar interests while in discussion a few pages ago people said it might be better to go with someone who has a different background as they would be more likely to view you as a helpful peer vs competition. Don't know which is better, seems like a lot is being read into interviewers, I agree you could get someone who is great or sucks, but my feeling is that has much more to do with their personality.

Anyways, just my thoughts, could be wrong. Good luck with the interview!
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 11:37
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Question for the group:
I sent an email to one of the 3 folks on the interviewer list. He hasn't responded yet (only 2 business days...plus a weekend). His email was not common (it was for a company he started on the side), but on his CV I found by googling him, I found a more common email related to his full time job. Should I forward it to this email, or is that inappropriate? I want to have a great interview, and our backgrounds/interests are very aligned, whereas the other two interviewers work in very different areas than myself.

Thanks for any advice on this!


My own feeling is that if I were that interviewer and I got an email to an address other than the one that I originally submitted, it would be just a bit creepy/stalkery. I know people (myself included) try to do research on their interviewers, but to have it that clear and in your face might raise red flags and send a message you don't want to be sent. On the other hand, he could have all of his emails forwarded to one email address, so he may not even realize it. But I'd lean toward not using that email

A bit about my interview experience. My interviewer and I didn't really share much in common in terms of industry and interests, but I actually felt that it made for more natural conversation because she was very intrigued about what my work is and what I like to do. The fact that we didn't have much in common actually served as one icebreaker after another for us.
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Re: Columbia 2013 (CBS) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 13:18
Anyone who submitted on the merit deadline hear anything yet ?
Also, two observations from last years thread - Firstly, by Jan 20s there had been 140 pages of discussion , could it mean that the app volume has further tanked (just putting it out there , I realize gmatclub's thread-length may not be an accurate indication of app volume) and secondly apps went under review before interview invites. Has that happened to anyone this yr ?
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