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05 Jun 2015, 03:56
Hey Y'all!

I sat for the GMAT on Monday and got my final score today - 660 (Q:48, V:32, IR:7, AWA: 6).

What was shocking to me was my performance on the verbal section. I am a native English speaker and my baseline score on the GMAT Prep 1 CAT was a 32 (a few months back). Since then, I had progressed to the 37-39 range on MGMAT and Kaplan Premier CATs in March before diving back into the GMAT Prep CATs 2-4 in April (Verbal score was between 41 and 42). For what it's worth, my average Q on the final 3 GMAT Prep CATs was a 49, so I theoretically should've been looking at a score in the 740s.

However, my goal is around a 720 (targeting a run at some of the top programs), so this was disheartening to see that while everything else went according to plan, my verbal was a far cry from what I know it should've been. I wish I could chalk it up to a bad day, but clearly that wasn't the case as everything else was in line with what I know I was capable of (on the flip side maybe it was a bad day and I should've gotten a perfect Q score ). I've already booked a GMAT retake for August and I am determined to show the verbal section who's boss. I think that the next 2 months will be more than enough time to improve on Verbal even more, while maintaining/refining my Quant score without having to sacrifice every moment of my spare time practicing or thinking about the GMAT (it is summer after all).

I wish I knew what part of my verbal I bombed out on, but at this point I'm going to try building up from the bottom again. I've already exhausted all of the OG material and am currently using the Economist free 7 day trial just to get a feel for different verbal topics I may have missed, but I don't think I'm willing to shell out that much for just verbal prep.

FYI - On my first go around I relied primarily on the OG books, perused the MGMAT books and did the tests, and used Kaplan for its CATs. Not that it adds much to this topic, but my SATs were a Q:750/V:700 (1450 on the old scale), so I feel like a 32 was simply appalling.

Are there any good resources I should consider using? Does anyone have any tips or suggestions for me as I approach the next two months? Thanks in advance!
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05 Jun 2015, 04:40
GMATinthehouse wrote:
I wish I knew what part of my verbal I bombed out on

You might want to consider the Enhanced Score Report option that will let me know precisely the information you are looking for.

Since you are a native English speaker, my guess would be that SC and RC would be your relative stronger areas inherently.
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05 Jun 2015, 06:09
Ah - Thank you! I had no idea that existed. This will definitely provide me with some clarity as to where I will redirect my focus.
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05 Jun 2015, 10:24
Hi GMATinthehouse,

First off, a 660/Q48 is really good score (it's right around the 80th percentile overall), so you can comfortably apply to any Business Schools you choose. Given your past practice CAT scores, it's understandable why you would want to retest though.

1) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections?
2) What time of day did you take your CATs and what time of day was your Official GMAT?
3) Do you take your CATs at home or do you go to a different location?
4) Do you do anything during your CATs that is not 'test-like' (skipping sections, pausing the CAT, listening to music, etc.)?

For what it's worth, you probably don't need another 2 months of study time before re-testing.

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05 Jun 2015, 15:07
So I just checked my Enhanced Score Report. Q was fine, but Verbal was weird. I thought I performed poorly across the board, but evidently not...

Breakdown of Verbal: 35 RC, 36 SC, 22 CR. I think that pretty much means I answered all of the CR questions incorrectly? I'm quite flabbergasted to be honest given my typical Verbal scores on MGMAT, Kaplan, and GMATPrep were 38-42. A 22 is simply unacceptable for me...

Based on the GMAT score chart I've seen floating around, it looks like the lowest score is a 470 (Q30, V25). It looks like I have my work cut out for me after all?
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05 Jun 2015, 17:46
Hi GMATinthehouse,

While you didn't get ALL of the CR questions wrong, you certainly missed a lot of them. From a tactical standpoint, I'm curious about how you were approaching those questions on Test Day...

What kind of notes do you take when you solve a typical CR?
How often do you just eliminate answers that don't "sound right" and end up at the correct answer?
How often do you find that you narrow it down to 2 choices, then "guess?"

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13 Jan 2016, 09:07
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Hi GMATinthehouse,

It sounds like you have the right "order of steps" for dealing with CR, but by not taking notes, you're REALLY putting the burden on yourself to have perfect recall

Hello Rich, can you suggest what kind of notes we should be taking?

The passages in CR are anyway quite long and take quite a good time to read. After that, if we takes notes as well, it looks like quite a time consuming strategy.
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13 Jan 2016, 12:15
Hi PrijitDebnath,

1) How long have you been studying?
2) What materials have you been using?
3) What 'steps' do you go through when dealing with a typical CR, SC and RC prompt?

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15 Jan 2016, 14:49
Did you retest? What were your scores?

GMATinthehouse wrote:
Hey Y'all!

I sat for the GMAT on Monday and got my final score today - 660 (Q:48, V:32, IR:7, AWA: 6).

What was shocking to me was my performance on the verbal section. I am a native English speaker and my baseline score on the GMAT Prep 1 CAT was a 32 (a few months back). Since then, I had progressed to the 37-39 range on MGMAT and Kaplan Premier CATs in March before diving back into the GMAT Prep CATs 2-4 in April (Verbal score was between 41 and 42). For what it's worth, my average Q on the final 3 GMAT Prep CATs was a 49, so I theoretically should've been looking at a score in the 740s.

However, my goal is around a 720 (targeting a run at some of the top programs), so this was disheartening to see that while everything else went according to plan, my verbal was a far cry from what I know it should've been. I wish I could chalk it up to a bad day, but clearly that wasn't the case as everything else was in line with what I know I was capable of (on the flip side maybe it was a bad day and I should've gotten a perfect Q score ). I've already booked a GMAT retake for August and I am determined to show the verbal section who's boss. I think that the next 2 months will be more than enough time to improve on Verbal even more, while maintaining/refining my Quant score without having to sacrifice every moment of my spare time practicing or thinking about the GMAT (it is summer after all).

I wish I knew what part of my verbal I bombed out on, but at this point I'm going to try building up from the bottom again. I've already exhausted all of the OG material and am currently using the Economist free 7 day trial just to get a feel for different verbal topics I may have missed, but I don't think I'm willing to shell out that much for just verbal prep.

FYI - On my first go around I relied primarily on the OG books, perused the MGMAT books and did the tests, and used Kaplan for its CATs. Not that it adds much to this topic, but my SATs were a Q:750/V:700 (1450 on the old scale), so I feel like a 32 was simply appalling.

Are there any good resources I should consider using? Does anyone have any tips or suggestions for me as I approach the next two months? Thanks in advance!
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