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Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly

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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  07 Oct 2010, 19:58
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Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity.
The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided level of output is held constant

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?
(A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
(B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion.
(C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(E) Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.

Other type of this question exists but this is another version. Please explain in a detailed way.Nice explanation will be appreciated with kudos ) . OA after explanations.

I have a fundamental question do you consider the role of just the boldface portion of the sentence or the whole sentence. In PowerScore CR I see that they consider the whole sentence.

If we look at the for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. I firmly believe that it "identifies the content of that conclusion." which is option B. I wont agree with E as second statement does not provide any support to conclusion, it instead raises a question to gather support for the conclusion.
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  12 Nov 2010, 17:33

Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity.The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided level of output is held constant

Different areas were bolded and I found consistency with the second bold. This would've changed my own answer if I saw the actual bolds of the text. I chose B, but the answer is E, and I see why now.
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  14 Nov 2010, 03:55
B- 1st provide the premise that supports the conclusion , 2nd is the content that projected theconclusion
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  14 Nov 2010, 09:01
Chill Guys.

The actual question is :

Delta products, Inc., has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity. The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output, Delta’s operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided that the level of output is held constant.

In the argument given, the two boldface portions play which of the following roles?
A: The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
B: The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion.
C: The first states the position that the argument opposes; the second states the conclusion of the argument.
D: Each provides evidence that calls the conclusion of the argument into question.
E: Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.

And the OA is : E
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  15 Nov 2010, 23:51
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I belive it is B, what is the OA?

oh if anybody who claimed that the answer is E is definately mistake for another CR which is the same contend but with another boldfaced sentence... here is the sentence which the answer is E
Delta products, Inc., has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity. The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output, Delta’s operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided that the level of output is held constant.

In the argument given, the two boldface portions play which of the following roles?
A: The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
B: The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion.
C: The first states the position that the argument opposes; the second states the conclusion of the argument.
D: Each provides evidence that calls the conclusion of the argument into question.
E: Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.

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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  16 Nov 2010, 01:18
I also went for B.
But after analyzing it may be E, because we need to bring the " Clearly, Yes" factor to complete the conclusion. If the bold face portion would have included "Yes" part, then we can call it as conclusion of the argument. Failing this, its mere a support to the conclusion.

I have tried to justify OA E but still willing to take IMO B
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  16 Nov 2010, 01:53
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Lately, I see that a lot of CR questions, the OA is different from most guy's answers of the board
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  16 Nov 2010, 12:17
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In bold faced questions, quickly break down the argument to see what role each statement is playing.

Premises:
1. Delta products, Inc., has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity. (Data given to us to support the conclusion)
2. the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided that the level of output is held constant. (Again, data provided to support the conclusion)

What is the conclusion? By giving this data, what is the author trying to say?
- for a given level of output, Delta’s operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly
He says, 'whether it can be concluded' and then says 'The answer, clearly, is yes'. So this is how he has given the conclusion.

According to what is in bold, choose your answer. In the original question, the answer is (B).
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By giving this data, what is the author trying to say? - for a given level of output, Delta’s operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly He says, 'whether it can be concluded' and then says 'The answer, clearly, is yes'. So this is how he has given the conclusion. According to what is in bold, choose your answer. In the original question, the answer is (B). hi, so yu meant that the question's answer i posted is E and the question's answer the other guy posted is B? Manager Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 169 Followers: 1 Kudos [?]: 31 [0], given: 7 Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink] 17 Nov 2010, 11:12 arundas wrote: perfectstranger wrote: Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity. The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided level of output is held constant In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles? (A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion. (B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion. (C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question. (D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question. (E) Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument. Other type of this question exists but this is another version. Please explain in a detailed way.Nice explanation will be appreciated with kudos ) . OA after explanations. I have a fundamental question do you consider the role of just the boldface portion of the sentence or the whole sentence. In PowerScore CR I see that they consider the whole sentence. If we look at the for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. I firmly believe that it "identifies the content of that conclusion." which is option B. I wont agree with E as second statement does not provide any support to conclusion, it instead raises a question to gather support for the conclusion. I agree. The first statement supports the conclusion by showing that the method by which fossil fuels have been reduced in the conclusion has been utilized by Delta. The second bold statement forms a question of sorts that identifies what conclusive evidence is provided that a reduction in fossil fuels has taken place - clearly not a support comment for the conclusion. Veritas Prep GMAT Instructor Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 5682 Location: Pune, India Followers: 1413 Kudos [?]: 7319 [0], given: 186 Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink] 17 Nov 2010, 11:48 Expert's post diebeatsthegmat wrote: VeritasPrepKarishma wrote: In bold faced questions, quickly break down the argument to see what role each statement is playing. Premises: 1. Delta products, Inc., has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity. (Data given to us to support the conclusion) 2. the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided that the level of output is held constant. (Again, data provided to support the conclusion) What is the conclusion? By giving this data, what is the author trying to say? - for a given level of output, Delta’s operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly He says, 'whether it can be concluded' and then says 'The answer, clearly, is yes'. So this is how he has given the conclusion. According to what is in bold, choose your answer. In the original question, the answer is (B). hi, so yu meant that the question's answer i posted is E and the question's answer the other guy posted is B? The question you posted doesn't have any statements in bold. But I am assuming you wanted to put the first statement and the last statement (after since) in bold and hence answer to your question will be (E). 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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  11 Jun 2011, 23:12
Why is it D...the second boldface calls the conclusion into question ..The reason I am saying this is because before the second boldaface it says : - " The question has been raised whether i ...... "
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  12 Jun 2011, 13:58
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Why is it D...the second boldface calls the conclusion into question ..The reason I am saying this is because before the second boldaface it says : - " The question has been raised whether i ...... "

I think you meant to ask why the answer is not D.
The most important step in CR questions is 'identifying the conclusion'. What is the conclusion in this argument?
The conclusion is the author's opinion, the point that he/she is trying to make. The conclusion is that Delta's operation causes less fossil fuel to be consumed now.
The second boldface part is only "for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly" which is exactly what the conclusion is. It gives the content of the conclusion.
There are many ways of giving the content of the conclusion. Say the conclusion is 'X'. You can say:
So we can conclude X.
or
Can we conclude X? Yes we can.

A statement that calls the conclusion into question would give an argument that would be against the conclusion.
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  13 Jun 2011, 02:37
B is clean here.
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  14 Jun 2011, 17:06
B for me....
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  25 Jul 2011, 22:40
u r right ..it OG 12 Ed problem no 107 ..OA given is B .
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  07 Aug 2011, 02:04
+1 for E
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  13 Sep 2011, 09:24
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Re: Delta Products Inc.-bold face [#permalink]  14 Sep 2011, 04:24
According to what is given as bold phrases.. I feel the answer must 'B'e B

the second bold phrase just takes content of the overall sentence 'the question is...' and in the next sentence, it is stated that the answer is YES.

So B it is..
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Re: Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly [#permalink]  31 Mar 2013, 09:00
Basically we can conclude from this CR :
'identifies the content of conclusion' means the Conclusion.

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