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Got admission letter two days ago with some $$$. :)
But I am going to decline it, coz I have a full-ride from an American business school.
Good luck to everyone!!!
Nona, i will keep my fingers crossed for you. :)
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How does the class size(75) of Desautels compare with other canadian b-schools which have class sizes of more than 300 ?
I found only 500 Desautels connections on LinkedIn as compared to others schools which have more than 10000.

Does it mean lack of networking and alumni support during and after MBA ?


The size of the network is highly overrated IMO. The quality of it is what really matters. For instance, it happens frequently that smaller programs have graduates who feel very passionate about their school and are always open to help younger people. You ideally want people like this, and even better if they are in the location and industry where you want to work. The advantage of having a very large network however is that by sheer probabilities you are likely to find a graduate that can guide you wherever and whatever you want to do. In sum, I think you need to figure out what you want to do and see if the network offered by Desautels can help you achieve that: as small as Desautels's network might be, it is the best you can find for a career in Montreal, for instance. On the opposite, say HBS or Wharton, have thousands of graduates but I wonder how many would be in Montreal.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the network can be very important to land your first job, but very soon after that it will become less relevant.

EDIT: A very easy way to find out the kind of network you will get is to directly email a few people. For instance, looking on LinkedIn for a few graduates, and sending an email where you politely introduce yourself, explain to the point what you want to do after an MBA, explain why you think Desautels can help you achieve that, and then kindly ask them if they share your view and would encourage you to apply or enroll. When I did this, I found in general that people from smaller programs were a lot better at writing back with feedback than those from larger ones.



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Re: Desautels (McGill U) 2013 - Calling All MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 01 May 2013, 18:48
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Hi Caramia81.

Any update on your interview result?
Mine was also conducted on 19 April but still no update...


Check your box, vinay1s. The thing is that I never had my interview. :)

mehrabounr - things are like that not only for you. I am almost in the same "shoes". I think it is because of their hectic schedule at this time of the year. I think CarlMtl had a quick review, because he has applied a lot earlier than any of us, AND another reason may be that he is local. So, don't compare the review timing for your application with that of others.
You already let the AdCom know about yourself and as far as I understand, you were very persistent in that. So, you can only wait for their decision now and save your nerves for something else. :) As long as Jonathan is in touch with you, he remembers that you are waiting for him and AdCom team decision. If you keep pushing, even J will stop answering your inquiries some day.
Even if you get a "reject" in the end, don't feel upset about it. And next time - learn your lesson and make sure to apply as early as possible. C'est la vie, man!
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Dear everybody ... as I shared with you all my stress and GMAT defeats during the last long months , I would like to share with you my good news . I took my 3rd attempt a couple of hours ago scoring 620 (Q42 V33). It is not a booming score but I already know from Jonathan they are looking for a minimum of 600 .At last , I am done with the GMAT! Thank you all for your patience .I will rest for a few days then start working on my John Molson application as a back up for Desautels
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Case in point, the following is a verbatim discussion I had with Jonathan on the day of the interview:
Me: How could I improve my chances at receiving a scholarship?
Jonathan: Get a 750 on the GMAT.
Me: Really?
Jonathan: Yes.

That being said, I received a 35% scholarship with my admission (almost certainly due in large part to my 700 on the gmat).


But, makes sense, right? I mean, you will get a scholarship if they REALLY want you. And they will want you if you can bring something to the table: maybe a high GMAT, maybe diversity. You cannot really do much about diversity at this stage, but you can do a lot about your GMAT, so I guess that is the right strategy to improve your chances of receiving a scholarship.
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Dear Sally I really appreciate your kind care .Unfortunately this diploma does not offer a student transcript they only offer a certificate of completion ,and this is what making me highly stressed.In fact I am thinking of asking Jonathan but also afraid that this might give a negative impression.


Schools understand that students come from countries with vastly different education systems to the Canadian/Quebecois. Wherever you are from, chances are that they will have had a student from there before. I would suggest you explain to Jonathan the situation, show him the document you have now, and also explain when/where you will have a more official document. It will NOT give the wrong impression.
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The issue with French IMO is not if you can land a job. You will with an MBA from McGill for sure. What one needs to keep in mind is that French is a must to make a career.
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How does the class size(75) of Desautels compare with other canadian b-schools which have class sizes of more than 300 ?
I found only 500 Desautels connections on LinkedIn as compared to others schools which have more than 10000.

Does it mean lack of networking and alumni support during and after MBA ?


The size of the network is highly overrated IMO. The quality of it is what really matters. For instance, it happens frequently that smaller programs have graduates who feel very passionate about their school and are always open to help younger people. You ideally want people like this, and even better if they are in the location and industry where you want to work. The advantage of having a very large network however is that by sheer probabilities you are likely to find a graduate that can guide you wherever and whatever you want to do. In sum, I think you need to figure out what you want to do and see if the network offered by Desautels can help you achieve that: as small as Desautels's network might be, it is the best you can find for a career in Montreal, for instance. On the opposite, say HBS or Wharton, have thousands of graduates but I wonder how many would be in Montreal.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the network can be very important to land your first job, but very soon after that it will become less relevant.

EDIT: A very easy way to find out the kind of network you will get is to directly email a few people. For instance, looking on LinkedIn for a few graduates, and sending an email where you politely introduce yourself, explain to the point what you want to do after an MBA, explain why you think Desautels can help you achieve that, and then kindly ask them if they share your view and would encourage you to apply or enroll. When I did this, I found in general that people from smaller programs were a lot better at writing back with feedback than those from larger ones.
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For Indian candidates par GMAT score is 720- 730, we are very good at quant, almost everyone gets 49+ score in this section... :)...
Your point being?


My point is that, when I apply for a b-school, I am competing against candidates from India (as no school will take more than 5 to 10% of its class from 1 International country). Also,as the competition for Indian places in an mba program is tougher (because of large pool size of Indian candidates and limited opportunities for GMAT scores in domestic schools), the par score for Indian students is higher.

Also GMAT score is just one of the many components in my application that I am focussing on improving for next round of admission cycle. Additionally, in terms of scholarships, GMAT score is the most important criteria for most schools.


Ahh, I see. No doubt it is very hard for an Indian candidate to stand out among his/her peers, and certainly competing against high quant scores can only make it tougher. Perhaps you`re right that a higher GMAT score will help you, but I maintain that you should find a way to differentiate yourself another way. For example, many Indian applicants work in IT. I am certain that if you had work experience in another relevant, dynamic field, you would be given preference amongst your IT peers. Maybe this is easier said than done though, as you are probably already somewhat entrenched in a certain sector by this point. Forgive me if you`ve posted about this earlier in the thread, but what domain do you work in, what do you do for work exactly?

Oh, and you are absolutely correct about increasing your odds of gaining a scholarship through a higher gmat score.
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hi everybody
Are there any female admits here? I have a few questions only from women :D can anyone help me?


Now I'm curious.

You know, "women in business", its an issue everywhere. I wanted to know if McGill gives enough support to female students.
Also wanted to ask them about the "women in leadership" scholarship and see if anyone has gotten this scholarship this year or in previous years.

I had my interview few days ago. I'm told they'll give me an answer in 2 weeks (2 MORE WEEKS IN PURGATORY). I'm optimistic about the admission but not funding. I had my interview with Carine which was a pleasure talking to her.
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I never know when they say in an interview (at the end) something like this: "so, will see you in Montreal" or "so, when you come here you'll see for yourself" is that an indication that they are giving you the thumbs up, or that's just what they say to everyone and doesn't mean anything.
Also, I never know when an interviewer is laughing a lot, is it good or bad?
Any thoughts on this 2 issues?



I met Carine face to face a while ago. She is amazing to talk with, I think that's a very good part of her character. Nothing particular should come out of it.

Per your question about the "Montreal indication on the interview", I suggest that you shouldn't take it as thumbs up or down , but be positive about the possible outcome. Best of luck.

By the way, for the scholarship admission committee implements a holistic approach strategy. IMO, where you come from (for the diversity of the class), your professional background and work experience, application package (essays, GMAT etc...) , and interview performance matters as a whole for both admission and scholarship.
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I got admitted with 12K entrance award.
I need to make a decision but I need some help. Can anyone help me?
I need some information that is not about McGill. (deciding between 2 programs)

I need to know the monthly living costs (for a student) in 2 cities "Shanghai,china " and "Jamshedpur,India"
does anyone here have any idea about living costs in these 2 locations (rent,food,etc.)


http://www.numbeo.com/common/

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with tears of joy and a big "yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss " scream I received my admission email from Antoinette Molino a few days ago :) at last ! what annoys me is financing the project . I am considering different options for the student loan , but do you think it is possible to negotiate with them the amount of financial aid provided?
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Hi! Probably my first post ever!

I don't think they have deadlines. according to their website, admissions are rendered on a rolling basis, about 4 weeks after they get the whole material (probably more at this time of the year, with the holidays coming). Anyway, I wouldn't worry much about that, since you're submitting in December, so you're way ahead of most people (me included).

I'll apply to pretty much the same schools you're applying to, from what I can see from your profile. Have you made your mind about which one is your priority? I have some ideas, but would love to hear different opinions. Also, just out of curiosity, any reason why Canada if you're from the US? (I'm from Latin America and my reason for Canada is easier work permits).

Good luck with your app!


Hey cofre,

I hope submitting early gives me a fighting chance with the app. I'm a bit worried about the GPA, but adcom was very encouraging (unlike some other schools). Scholarships and tuition fees will probably ending up deciding which school I go to, as is the case with many students. But say, if tuition for all schools is exactly the same, then the only real competition is b/w McGill and Rotman.

Rotman has location on its side, its basically one train stop away from Bay Street. Plus its more national-oriented than internationally focused, which is good since I would like to work in Canada. On the other hand its a very competitive program and since I want to major in finance, I'll be up against half the school.

McGill has a very good environment and seems community oriented, specially because of the small class size. The students seems very happy and the placement rate is off the charts. On the other hand, location is not good at all. As a non-french speaker, I probably wont be working in Montreal, which means I'll have to network across borders. Not an easy thing.

P.s. why would you think I'm from US? Deep, deep south Asia. Same as you, I'm heading to Canada for the working conditions!
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Hi! Probably my first post ever!

I don't think they have deadlines. according to their website, admissions are rendered on a rolling basis, about 4 weeks after they get the whole material (probably more at this time of the year, with the holidays coming). Anyway, I wouldn't worry much about that, since you're submitting in December, so you're way ahead of most people (me included).

I'll apply to pretty much the same schools you're applying to, from what I can see from your profile. Have you made your mind about which one is your priority? I have some ideas, but would love to hear different opinions. Also, just out of curiosity, any reason why Canada if you're from the US? (I'm from Latin America and my reason for Canada is easier work permits).

Good luck with your app!


Hey cofre,

I hope submitting early gives me a fighting chance with the app. I'm a bit worried about the GPA, but adcom was very encouraging (unlike some other schools). Scholarships and tuition fees will probably ending up deciding which school I go to, as is the case with many students. But say, if tuition for all schools is exactly the same, then the only real competition is b/w McGill and Rotman.

Rotman has location on its side, its basically one train stop away from Bay Street. Plus its more national-oriented than internationally focused, which is good since I would like to work in Canada. On the other hand its a very competitive program and since I want to major in finance, I'll be up against half the school.

McGill has a very good environment and seems community oriented, specially because of the small class size. The students seems very happy and the placement rate is off the charts. On the other hand, location is not good at all. As a non-french speaker, I probably wont be working in Montreal, which means I'll have to network across borders. Not an easy thing.

P.s. why would you think I'm from US? Deep, deep south Asia. Same as you, I'm heading to Canada for the working conditions!



Echelon,

It's because your profile says Location: United States (maybe you hadn't realized that until now? ;)

GPA will also be sort of an issue for me, but I have contacted admissions people from Schulich and Rotman and both schools encouraged me to apply.

As for schools: I'm finding it kind of hard to decide among Canadian schools. It's not like in the US where some schools (HBS, Wharton, Stanford) are obviously better than others. The rankings differ a lot, and personally I'm more inclined to Rotman, then Schulich, then McGill. They are all great schools, but the location to me will be very important, since I don't speak French either. If I were to sum up the pros and cons, they would be:

Rotman - pros: location, international reputation, good rankings; cons: tuition.
McGill - pros: international reputation, job placement rate, smaller program (I have the impression this could mean it's easier to get a job); cons: location, small network (the "other side" of a small program)
Schulich - pros: good rankings, location (not as good as Rotman, but still Toronto) and tuition; cons: York doesn't have great overall reputation.

If you plan to go to finance, I'd say Rotman would be the best choice. Yes, you're going to be just one more of half of the class, but then again the best opportunities might be there after all. That's just my opinion, though. I'll probably have a more informed one after I visit the schools. And just like you, scholarships will play an important role in my decision. All things equaled I'd go to Rotman, but I'd need a generous scholarship from them for that condition to be true (and no scholarships from the others).

Now, even more important than which school, what do you think it's gonna be like in the Canadian job market for foreigners like us? I contacted a girl from Rotman and she said it's actually hard to get a good job. A guy from Schulich was more optimistic and said that it's totally possible to get a good job on par with Canadian-born MBAs.
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The 2012 brochure states that the application deadline from Canada is 1st of May and from outside (international students) is March 15th.I have booked my GMAT for Feb. the 3rd please wish me good luck :)

By the way did anybody check the student loan page on their website ?? Could not afford time to read it
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The 2012 brochure states that the application deadline from Canada is 1st of May and from outside (international students) is March 13th.I have booked my GMAT for Feb. the 3rd please wish me good luck :)

By the way did anybody check the student loan page on their website ?? Could not afford time to read it



Good luck!

Seeing your ug gpa, i see we're in the same boat. Hope you kock one out of the park with the gmat
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Rotman - pros: location, international reputation, good rankings; cons: tuition.
McGill - pros: international reputation, job placement rate, smaller program (I have the impression this could mean it's easier to get a job); cons: location, small network (the "other side" of a small program)
Schulich - pros: good rankings, location (not as good as Rotman, but still Toronto) and tuition; cons: York doesn't have great overall reputation.


I would say McGill's location is its greatest asset! IMO the best city in the continent.
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Rotman - pros: location, international reputation, good rankings; cons: tuition.
McGill - pros: international reputation, job placement rate, smaller program (I have the impression this could mean it's easier to get a job); cons: location, small network (the "other side" of a small program)
Schulich - pros: good rankings, location (not as good as Rotman, but still Toronto) and tuition; cons: York doesn't have great overall reputation.


I would say McGill's location is its greatest asset! IMO the best city in the continent.



I couldn`t agree more!
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