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Despite the criticism in the early 1890’s that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish, by the late 1890’s photographs were found in most newspapers and magazines.

(A) that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish,

(B) that if journalists use pictures it will diminish the intellectual quality of publications,

(C) that the use of pictures by journalists would diminish the intellectual quality of publications,

(D) of the intellectual quality of publications being diminished by the use of pictures by journalists,

(E) of the use of pictures by journalists diminish the intellectual quality of publications,

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in my point of view, the event is from the past so future tense does not work here, B is out. conditional "would" is used with present verb form "use", which is incorrect so A is out. D is just wordy. in E "diminishing" incorrectly modifies journalist. correct me if i am wrong or is there another way to attack this question.

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the following question is from gmatprep question pack 1. in my point of view, the event is from the past so future tense does not work here, B is out. conditional "would" is used with present verb form "use", which is incorrect so A is out. D is just wordy. in E "diminishing" incorrectly modifies journalist. correct me if i am wrong or is there another way to attack this question.

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That's an impressive review of this problem! The tense issue is the big problem in A/B here both within the clause, use/would and use/will, and in the sentence as a whole, present tense "use" where "used" is required. D and E both have a modifier problem because "of the..." is modifying 1890s instead of criticism. Also, D contains the word "being", which is almost never used correctly on the GMAT.

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In this question, the IF-then construct isn't correct in option A and B its missing a comma? Can we eliminate the answer choice because of that issue?
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In this question, the IF-then construct isn't correct in option A and B its missing a comma? Can we eliminate the answer choice because of that issue?


Nope.

When form "the past" you make a prediction looking forward, "would" is correct; so B is out.

In A, the conditional clause is not correct even if you add a comma. The correct form is

"if + simple Past, + would", A uses the present "use", so even with the comma both A and B are not correct.
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In this question, the IF-then construct isn't correct in option A and B its missing a comma? Can we eliminate the answer choice because of that issue?


GMAC doesnt tests on PUNCTUATION...so never eliminate a choice on the basis of punctuation.
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Despite the criticism in the early 1890’s that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish, by the late 1890’s photographs were found in most newspapers and magazines.

(A) that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish,

(B) that if journalists use pictures it will diminish the intellectual quality of publications,

(C) that the use of pictures by journalists would diminish the intellectual quality of publications,

(D) of the intellectual quality of publications being diminished by the use of pictures by journalists,

(E) of the use of pictures by journalists diminish the intellectual quality of publications,
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Despite the criticism in the early 1890’s that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish, by the late 1890’s photographs were found in most newspapers and magazines.

(A) that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish,
Parallelism not maintained. That clause is followed by an if-clause, which i think is a wrong construction.
(B) that if journalists use pictures it will diminish the intellectual quality of publications,
placeholder 'it' has no proper antecendent. Parallelism not maintained (both tense and construction)
(C) that the use of pictures by journalists would diminish the intellectual quality of publications,
Parallelism perfectly maintained between "the use of pictures" and "photographs" and also between the verbs
(D) of the intellectual quality of publications being diminished by the use of pictures by journalists,
too many errors in this construction. It is not direct. Usage of "by the use of pictures by journalists" conveys a wrong meaning. Usage of 'being' is not needed.
(E) of the use of pictures by journalists diminish the intellectual quality of publications
SV agreement error. Use should be followed by diminishes. 'Use of pictures by journalists' conveys a different meaning.
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Despite the criticism in the early 1890’s that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish, by the late 1890’s photographs were found in most newspapers and magazines.

(A) that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish,
IMO : THAT IF construction is fine. That + (clause)
Problem with A is hypothetical subjunctive form of then statement is used without past form of verb in if statement. -- I rejected A because of this reason.

(B) that if journalists use pictures it will diminish the intellectual quality of publications, -- it is trying to express idea rather it should refer to some noun. further there is no proper antecedent of it.

(C) that the use of pictures by journalists would diminish the intellectual quality of publications, -- good.

(D) of the intellectual quality of publications being diminished by the use of pictures by journalists, -- criticism of ... being -- wrong

(E) of the use of pictures by journalists diminish the intellectual quality of publications -- fragmented -- verb is not expected in such construction.
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The event is from the past so future tense does not work here, B is out. conditional "would" is used with present verb form "use", which is incorrect so A is out. D is just wordy. in E "diminishing" incorrectly modifies journalist.

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The event is from the past so future tense does not work here, B is out. conditional "would" is used with present verb form "use", which is incorrect so A is out. D is just wordy

D says: Despite the criticism in the early 1890’s of the intellectual quality of publications... That is incorrect, because criticism was not about the intellectual quality of publications; criticism was about the use of pictures.

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in E "diminishing" incorrectly modifies journalist.

I didn't notice diminishing in E. E says: Despite the criticism in the early 1890’s of the use of pictures by journalists diminish the intellectual quality of publications. The issue is that despite is a proposition and so, cannot be followed by a main verb; however here, diminish is used as a main verb. This makes the sentence ungrammatical.
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Despite the criticism in the early 1890’s that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish, by the late 1890’s photographs were found in most newspapers and magazines.

(A) that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish,
(B) that if journalists use pictures it will diminish the intellectual quality of publications,
(C) that the use of pictures by journalists would diminish the intellectual quality of publications,
(D) of the intellectual quality of publications being diminished by the use of pictures by journalists,
(E) of the use of pictures by journalists diminish the intellectual quality of publications,

This is a GMAT Prep Question and the answer is C.

In Option A and Option B do you think that the usage of present tense "use" correct? Because the criticism happened in the past and the criticism is not continued till date.
Apart from this the If___ Then___ construction is correct in B, but incorrect in A. Right?

Three Conditionals tested -

Likely - If Simple Present then Simple future.
Unlikely - If Simple Past then Clause beginning with Would.
Impossible- If Past Perfect then Clause beginning with Would

I request you sir to please help me with Option C, D and E.

I couldn't understand how "would" is correct in Option C.

Dear RichaChampion,
I'm happy to respond. :-)

First of all, I totally agree that the present tense of "use" in (A) & (B) is train-wreck wrong. All this is in the past.

Here's what I would say about conditions. For the first one, the "likely" case, it's perfect try that we use simple present and simple future if the condition is a present-time condition, but we have to change tense if we are talking about a condition in the past.
Present time:
In the US today, if a person refuses to pay his income tax, he will be arrested and thrown in jail.
That's factually true, not only likely but just about certain. Here, we use simple present tense in the first part, simple future in the second.

Now, a past event. The US has had income tax continually since the passage of the XVI amendment in 1913, but it was only sporadic in the 1800s. The use no longer has poll taxes, but it did in the past. Thus we could say
In the 1840s, if a person refused to pay his poll tax, he would be arrested and thrown in jail.
Not only was this 100% true at the time, but it actually happened to Thoreau. Here, we use the simple past in the first part, and the "would" construction in the second part. You see, among other things, the construction "would" + [verb] is used to indicate the future of the past, the future from a past frame of reference. This is also the case in sequence of tenses. Answer choice (C) is correct, and it's closer to a sequence of tenses construction.

Does all this make sense?
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Despite some criticism that sth would have bad consequences, it happened.

    Despite the criticism in the early 1890’s that
      if journalists use pictures
      the intellectual quality of publications would diminish,
    by the late 1890’s photographs were found in most newspapers and magazines.

............intended meaning is usage of pictures would diminish the quality.

(A) that if journalists use pictures the intellectual quality of publications would diminish,............this does not give intended meaning. the stricture is without proper link.

(B) that if journalists use pictures it will diminish the intellectual quality of publications,.............it does not have proper antecedent usage.

(C) that the use of pictures by journalists would diminish the intellectual quality of publications,............use would diminish quality correctly.

(D) of the intellectual quality of publications being diminished by the use of pictures by journalists,............criticism of quality doesn't make sense.

(E) of the use of pictures by journalists diminish the intellectual quality of publications,............criticism of use of pics doesn't make sense.
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