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Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five mile per hour speed limit is reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution from the decreased amount of time trucks spend on the road.


A) reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution

B) reducing neither the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for trucking companies, or to less polluting

C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution

D) not reducing the congestion on rural highways, it is not contributing to savings on gas for trucking companies, it is less pollution

E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution


The question is, whats the guiding rule in such constructions and why the answer is what it is.

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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 19 Jul 2011, 21:09
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@sudhir18n can you please eloborate more on 'C' and how 'E' is much better than 'C'

C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution..........uses the wrong idiom and does not follow the rule of parallelism


Observe both C and E.

C: not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution


E:not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution


Not reducting THE congestion vs not reducing congestion
subtle difference..

Not reducting THE congestion : This means reducing X to do Y
is it contributing to save gas : this should be in the form of : is it contributing the saving of gas .. to be parallel

E makes those changes- Reducing congestion and contributing to lower gas costs...

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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 19 Jul 2011, 20:55
@sudhir18n can you please eloborate more on 'C' and how 'E' is much better than 'C'

C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution..........uses the wrong idiom and does not follow the rule of parallelism
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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 19 Jul 2011, 22:42
I too agree with E...thanks sudhir18n
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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 20 Jul 2011, 04:13
[quote="sudhir18n"][quote="jn.mohit"]


Not reducing THE congestion vs not reducing congestion
subtle difference..

Not reducing THE congestion : This means reducing X to do Y What do you mean by this?

I haven't really got what you explained for the usage of "THE".. A lil more explanation please...
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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 20 Jul 2011, 12:53
Good question and very good explanation by Sudhir!
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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 20 Jul 2011, 16:15
+1 E

I eliminated choice C because "save gas" is not the real meaning of the sentence.

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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2011, 10:57
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Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five mile per hour speed limit is reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution from the decreased amount of time trucks spend on the road.

A) reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution
B) reducing neither the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for trucking companies, or to less polluting
C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution
D) not reducing the congestion on rural highways, it is not contributing to savings on gas for trucking companies, it is less pollution
E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution


Answer: E
*note: not necessary that 'nor' be used with 'neither'

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A) reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution.........does not follow the correct idiomatic usage... neither X nor Y.


B) reducing neither the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for trucking companies, or to less polluting............follow the correct idiomatic usage neither X nor Y, and uses an incorrect tense 'polluting'- thus is incorrect

C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution..........uses the wrong idiom and does not follow the rule of parallelism

D) not reducing the congestion on rural highways, it is not contributing to savings on gas for trucking companies, it is less pollution............wrong on the use of tense 'it is less pollution'

E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution...........unconventional but the most clear and concise option

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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 28 Sep 2011, 23:10
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Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five mile per hour speed limit is reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution from the decreased amount of time trucks spend on the road.


A) reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution

B) reducing neither the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for trucking companies, or to less polluting

C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution

D) not reducing the congestion on rural highways, it is not contributing to savings on gas for trucking companies, it is less pollution

E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution


The question is, whats the guiding rule in such constructions and why the answer is what it is.

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It's tough question.
I also chose C. But Sudhir's explanation is impressive.
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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 19 Oct 2011, 05:29
Toughie, i selected C :(
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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 24 Oct 2011, 04:59
+1 for E.

Elimination of other choices is the way to go in this problem, rather than picking the correct choice.

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Re: One of the Kind of SC that cause congestion in my brain [#permalink] New post 29 Oct 2011, 03:38
RohitKalla wrote:
Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five mile per hour speed limit is reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution from the decreased amount of time trucks spend on the road.


A) reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution

B) reducing neither the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for trucking companies, or to less polluting

C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution

D) not reducing the congestion on rural highways, it is not contributing to savings on gas for trucking companies, it is less pollution

E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution


The question is, whats the guiding rule in such constructions and why the answer is what it is.

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+1 for E. E uses correlative conjunctions most idiomatically.
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Re: Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five [#permalink] New post 15 May 2012, 22:29
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Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five mile per hour speed limit is reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution from the decreased amount of time trucks spend on the road.


A) reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution

B) reducing neither the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for trucking companies, or to less polluting

C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution

D) not reducing the congestion on rural highways, it is not contributing to savings on gas for trucking companies, it is less pollution

E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution


The question is, whats the guiding rule in such constructions and why the answer is what it is.

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+1 for E.
Here is the explanation:

A) reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution--> wrong,it is neither ... nor.

B) reducing neither the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for trucking companies, or to less pollution--> it doesnot makes sense with the clause after the second comma.

C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution-->The use of and makes it wrong.

D) not reducing the congestion on rural highways, it is not contributing to savings on gas for trucking companies, it is less pollution-->for the argument to be true, idiomatically neither should be accompanied by nor.hence this one is wrong.

E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution--> this one is correct.



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Re: Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five [#permalink] New post 15 May 2012, 23:52
"E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution--> this one is correct. "

But what you suggest is: neither A nor B or C.

Shouldn't it be: neither A nor B nor C??
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Re: Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2012, 11:36
E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution

I see that this choice violates parallelism. it should've been "nor contributing" if it is to be parallel to "not reducing"
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Re: Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five [#permalink] New post 27 Jan 2013, 23:35
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Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five mile per hour speed limit is reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution from the decreased amount of time trucks spend on the road.


A) reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution

B) reducing neither the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for trucking companies, or to less polluting

C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution

D) not reducing the congestion on rural highways, it is not contributing to savings on gas for trucking companies, it is less pollution

E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to {lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution}

In C, the use of "and" changes the meaning.
But regardless of this error, one thing that I noticed is that in E, we are talking about "gas costs", whereas in the original choie we are talking about its "amount".
Hasn't the answer choice E deviated from the sense?
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Re: Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five [#permalink] New post 27 Jan 2013, 23:55
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Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five mile per hour speed limit is reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution from the decreased amount of time trucks spend on the road.


A) reducing neither congestion on rural highways, or it is not contributing to save gas for trucking companies and less pollution

B) reducing neither the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to lower gas costs for trucking companies, or to less polluting

C) not reducing the congestion on rural highways nor is it contributing to save gas for trucking companies, and it is not lessening the pollution

D) not reducing the congestion on rural highways, it is not contributing to savings on gas for trucking companies, it is less pollution

E) not reducing congestion on rural highways, nor is it contributing to {lower gas costs for truck companies or less pollution}

In C, the use of "and" changes the meaning.
But regardless of this error, one thing that I noticed is that in E, we are talking about "gas costs", whereas in the original choie we are talking about its "amount".
Hasn't the answer choice E deviated from the sense?

Not really.
The meaning of the sentence is : The hope was to get following benefits by imposing speed limit : 1. reduced congestion 2. lowered gas consumption 3. reduced pollution. But none of these has happened.
Actually apart from meaning, only E retains the grammatical structure. Notice C has three elements connected with not, nor, and. While in E there are 2 elements connected with not-nor and second elements itself has 2 elements connected with or. Perfectly done.

Therefore Ans E it is.
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Re: Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 00:12
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I don't have any problem with the grammatical construction of E. The only think that is bothering me here is the use of "gas costs". We were originally concerned with the saving of gas.
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Re: Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five [#permalink] New post 28 Jan 2013, 00:19
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I don't have any problem with the grammatical construction of E. The only think that is bothering me here is the use of "gas costs". We were originally concerned with the saving of gas.

Logically both mean same things isnt it? If you are saving gas your are saving gas cost. Not everyone is environmentalist but still wants a car with better mileage? ;-)
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Re: Despite what was hoped, the introduction of a sixty-five [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2013, 11:04
Please elaborate on how "E" is the solution for the above problem???I am unable to understand !!
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