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Dr. Hegsted argues that just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio, mass dietary change is needed to protect the significant number who are susceptible to the life-threatening effects of press eating habits.

(A) just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio
(B) like polio vaccine, which is given to every person to protect the few who might contract polio
(C) similar to polio vaccine which is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio
(D) while, to protect the few who might actually contract polio, polio vaccine is given to every person
(E) similar to the giving of polio vaccine to every person in order to protect the few who might contract polio actually

edited by scthakur: underlined. Please always underline the SC question.

pls discuss option B in details
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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 02 Mar 2009, 07:18
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I think you have already posted the OA. It is B.

A is wrong for incorrect use of idiom "just as....so".
C is wrong for not using comma before "which".
D brings in contrast in place of comparison.
E is awkward.
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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 02 Mar 2009, 09:24
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completely overlooked "just As X, so Y"
JUST AS you practice, SO shall you play(Manhattan)
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I think you have already posted the OA. It is B.

A is wrong for incorrect use of idiom "just as....so".
C is wrong for not using comma before "which".
D brings in contrast in place of comparison.
E is awkward.

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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 02 Mar 2009, 13:08
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I disagree with OA.

It should be A.

"Just as" it self is not wrong..

we are comparing clauses vs clause

in B.

Like Polio vaccine, mass dietary change is needed to protect the significant number who are susceptible to the life-threatening effects of press eating habits.

It says Polio vaccine protects from .. threatening effect of press eating habits

Clearly B is wrong.

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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 02 Mar 2009, 17:23
I am not sure but I think "like" is used when we are comparing two persons and we use "as" to compare two things like polio vaccines, etc... so if that is true then option B is wrong... Can somebody throw some light on this please...

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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 02 Mar 2009, 17:24
I am not sure but I think "like" is used when we are comparing two persons and we use "as" to compare two things like polio vaccines, etc... so if that is true then option B is wrong... Can somebody throw some light on this please...
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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 02 Mar 2009, 18:03
IMO B.....

(A) just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio - Just as X so Y

(B) like polio vaccine, which is given to every person to protect the few who might contract polio - right use of like, since we are comparing polio vaccine with mass dietary change also which is referring to polio vaccine

(C) similar to polio vaccine which is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio - comma should come before which

(D) while, to protect the few who might actually contract polio, polio vaccine is given to every person - IMO use of while after that is not correct

(E) similar to the giving of polio vaccine to every person in order to protect the few who might contract polio actually - wordy and actually is awkward.
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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 02 Mar 2009, 18:45
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IMO B.....

(A) just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio - Just as X so Y

(B) like polio vaccine, which is given to every person to protect the few who might contract polio - right use of like, since we are comparing polio vaccine with mass dietary change also which is referring to polio vaccine

(C) similar to polio vaccine which is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio - comma should come before which

(D) while, to protect the few who might actually contract polio, polio vaccine is given to every person - IMO use of while after that is not correct

(E) similar to the giving of polio vaccine to every person in order to protect the few who might contract polio actually - wordy and actually is awkward.



Gramatically B is correct (comparing noun vs noun), but logically it doesn't make sense.


How can Polio vaccine protect from ...threating effects of press eating habits.?????????? Is it make sense.


In A... Just as..X , Y is also idiomatic.. there is no issue with that.
.. where X and Y are clauses.

here comparision logically makes sense.



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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 02 Mar 2009, 22:25
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OA -A
My Question was..why not B?
sorry for the confusion I have created :)

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reply2spg wrote:
IMO B.....

(A) just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio - Just as X so Y

(B) like polio vaccine, which is given to every person to protect the few who might contract polio - right use of like, since we are comparing polio vaccine with mass dietary change also which is referring to polio vaccine

(C) similar to polio vaccine which is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio - comma should come before which

(D) while, to protect the few who might actually contract polio, polio vaccine is given to every person - IMO use of while after that is not correct

(E) similar to the giving of polio vaccine to every person in order to protect the few who might contract polio actually - wordy and actually is awkward.



Gramatically B is correct (comparing noun vs noun), but logically it doesn't make sense.


How can Polio vaccine protect from ...threating effects of press eating habits.?????????? Is it make sense.


In A... Just as..X , Y is also idiomatic.. there is no issue with that.
.. where X and Y are clauses.

here comparision logically makes sense.



What is the source.

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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 03 Mar 2009, 01:16
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OA -A
My Question was..why not B?
sorry for the confusion I have created :)

x2suresh wrote:
reply2spg wrote:
IMO B.....

(A) just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio - Just as X so Y

(B) like polio vaccine, which is given to every person to protect the few who might contract polio - right use of like, since we are comparing polio vaccine with mass dietary change also which is referring to polio vaccine

(C) similar to polio vaccine which is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio - comma should come before which

(D) while, to protect the few who might actually contract polio, polio vaccine is given to every person - IMO use of while after that is not correct

(E) similar to the giving of polio vaccine to every person in order to protect the few who might contract polio actually - wordy and actually is awkward.



Gramatically B is correct (comparing noun vs noun), but logically it doesn't make sense.


How can Polio vaccine protect from ...threating effects of press eating habits.?????????? Is it make sense.


In A... Just as..X , Y is also idiomatic.. there is no issue with that.
.. where X and Y are clauses.

here comparision logically makes sense.



What is the source.

Dr. Hegsted argues that just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio, mass dietary change is needed to protect the significant number who are susceptible to the life-threatening effects of press eating habits.

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(A) just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio ---> IMO, ‘just as’ doesn’t always require ‘so. Also, ‘as’ is used correctly here for the reason mentioned below:

Like Vs. As
Like – regulates noun/noun phrase/pronoun
As – introduces a clause

(B) like polio vaccine, which is given to every person to protect the few who might contract polio ---> This option is totally wrong because it changes the meaning of the original sentence. This option is actually trying to say that “…like polio vaccine, mass dietary change is needed to protect the significant number who are susceptible to the life-threatening effects of press eating habits”.

Do you think it’s right? Obviously not!

(C) similar to polio vaccine which is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio ---> No comma before ‘which’.

(D) while, to protect the few who might actually contract polio, polio vaccine is given to every person ---> The whole sentence looks awkward.

(E) similar to the giving of polio vaccine to every person in order to protect the few who might contract polio actually ---> The whole sentence looks awkward.
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Hence, option A.

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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 03 Mar 2009, 08:33
I also chose A for the reasons stated
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Dr. Hegsted argues that just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio, mass dietary change is needed to protect the significant number who are susceptible to the life-threatening effects of press eating habits.

(A) just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio

(B) like polio vaccine, which is given to every person to protect the few who might contract polio

(C) similar to polio vaccine which is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio

(D) while, to protect the few who might actually contract polio, polio vaccine is given to every person

(E) similar to the giving of polio vaccine to every person in order to protect the few who might contract polio actually


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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 10 Dec 2009, 06:39
the easiest way to rule out all the incorrect choices is to look at the verbs .... only A has the verb IS in the first (underlined) part which corresponds to the structure and the verb in the second part of the sentence. Hence A is correct
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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 10 Dec 2009, 08:00
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I am not sure but I think "like" is used when we are comparing two persons and we use "as" to compare two things like polio vaccines, etc... so if that is true then option B is wrong... Can somebody throw some light on this please...


"Like" is used to compare nouns or noun phrases.

Also, elinka makes an interesting point about parallelism.

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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 10 Dec 2009, 10:53
so the consensus is that A is correct then? B uses "like" incorrectly because it can only be used to compare nouns directly to other nouns?
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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 10 Dec 2009, 15:16
"Just as" can stand alone and means - in the same way

so a is fine
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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 15 Dec 2009, 13:18
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so the consensus is that A is correct then? B uses "like" incorrectly because it can only be used to compare nouns directly to other nouns?


Exactly! "Like" is used to compare N. to N. "As" is used to compare clause (S+V) to clause.
In this context, the sentence intends to compare the "polio vaccine" to "mass dietary change" in their action.
A) Dr. Hegsted argues that just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio, mass dietary change is needed to protect the significant number who are susceptible to the life-threatening effects of press eating habits.

B) Dr. Hegsted argues that like polio vaccine, which is given to every person to protect the few who might contract polio, mass dietary change is needed to protect the significant number who are susceptible to the life-threatening effects of press eating habits.
If you use like in this context it implies that they are similar in terms of "polio vaccine and mass dietary change is needed to protect the significant number who are susceptible to the life-threatening ..."--> not intended meaning.

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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 17 Dec 2010, 06:45
E.

This is one place where passive voice makes sense because of parallel structure.
to the giving of Polio vaccine is parallel to mass dietary changes
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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 18 Dec 2010, 01:18
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IMO B.....

(A) just as polio vaccine is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio - Just as X so Y

(B) like polio vaccine, which is given to every person to protect the few who might contract polio - right use of like, since we are comparing polio vaccine with mass dietary change also which is referring to polio vaccine

(C) similar to polio vaccine which is given to every person to protect the few who might actually contract polio - comma should come before which

(D) while, to protect the few who might actually contract polio, polio vaccine is given to every person - IMO use of while after that is not correct

(E) similar to the giving of polio vaccine to every person in order to protect the few who might contract polio actually - wordy and actually is awkward.


A indeed.

Assuming we have eliminated all options but A and B.
First of all A sounded perfect :oops: and secondly according to me here comparision is between "polio vaccine given" and "mass dietry change is needed"

So like shall be avoided.

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Re: SC-Dr Hegsted [#permalink] New post 06 Jan 2011, 21:35
A stated above the main choice is between option (a) & option (b):

In option (a) the punctuation separates the ideas neatly A, B
In option (b) the punctuation doesn't clearly separate the ideas A, A, B

In the written form, you should always try and phrase the argument to use punctuation to separate ideas.

Therefore option (a)
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Re: Dr. Hegsted argues that just as polio vaccine is given to [#permalink] New post 22 Dec 2011, 17:21
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It's A. Choice B change the meaning of the sentence as Ron Purewal explain in Manhattan forum.
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no, 'just as' doesn't require 'so'. in fact, it almost certainly occurs more often WITHOUT the 'so'.

in evaluating choice (b), note that the modifier between the two commas - 'which is given ... contract polio' - is nonessential (because it's bracketed by commas) and can thus be eliminated from the overall structure of the sentence. after that elimination, the sentence reads as follows:
like polio vaccine, mass dietary change is needed to protect the significant number who are susceptible to press(?) eating habits.
this doesn't make sense, because it implies that polio vaccine protects against the effects of poor eating habits.

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