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Dr. Sayres lecture recounted several little-known episodes [#permalink]
 19 Oct 2006, 17:10
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Dr. Sayre’s lecture recounted several little-known episodes in the relations between nations that illustrates what is wrong with alliances and treaties that do not have popular support.
(A) relations between nations that illustrates
(B) relation of one nation with another that illustrates
(C) relations between nations that illustrate
(D) relation of one nation with another and illustrate
(E) relations of nations that illustrates
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Re: SC - Dr. Sayre’s lecture [#permalink]
19 Oct 2006, 17:58
ivymba wrote: Dr. Sayre’s lecture recounted several little-known episodes in the relations between nations that illustrates what is wrong with alliances and treaties that do not have popular support.
(A) relations between nations that illustrates
(B) relation of one nation with another that illustrates
(C) relations between nations that illustrate
(D) relation of one nation with another and illustrate
(E) relations of nations that illustrates
B?
A,C,E that modifies nation OUT
was left with B and D.
D seemed odd with illustrate as its not clear who illustrated and its not in parallel form
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I'm going w/ C..
We need illustrate not illustrates right?
Episodes illustrate..
not Episodes illustrates...
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C
episodes....illustrate so A,B and E are out
D is wrong because it would be "one nation to another"
But wouldn't it be "relations among nations" or are we assuming that there is only an alliance and treaty between two nations.
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Re: SC - Dr. Sayre’s lecture [#permalink]
19 Oct 2006, 23:38
ivymba wrote: Dr. Sayre’s lecture recounted several little-known episodes in the relations between nations that illustrates what is wrong with alliances and treaties that do not have popular support.
(A) relations between nations that illustrates
(B) relation of one nation with another that illustrates
(C) relations between nations that illustrate
(D) relation of one nation with another and illustrate
(E) relations of nations that illustrates
Lecture ...illustrates..
C and D out.
"relations of nations" in E is vague..
"relation of" is not so good in B. I will go with A.
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Clear B.
"between" is used for comapring 2 things.
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Re: SC - Dr. Sayre’s lecture [#permalink]
20 Oct 2006, 00:34
ak_idc wrote: ivymba wrote: Dr. Sayre’s lecture recounted several little-known episodes in the relations between nations that illustrates what is wrong with alliances and treaties that do not have popular support.
(A) relations between nations that illustrates
(B) relation of one nation with another that illustrates
(C) relations between nations that illustrate
(D) relation of one nation with another and illustrate
(E) relations of nations that illustrates Lecture ...illustrates.. C and D out. "relations of nations" in E is vague.. "relation of" is not so good in B. I will go with A. Not so i believe....
Lecture recounted......episodes....that illustrate
Between can be used here because we are describing one-to-one relationship among the nations : For example: Peace between nations.... Or..... Comparison of birth rates between nations
However, that is a bit awkward and risky to choose in C....
I choose C.... 
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Re: SC - Dr. Sayre’s lecture [#permalink]
20 Oct 2006, 01:08
ivymba wrote: Dr. Sayre’s lecture recounted several little-known episodes in the relations between nations that illustrates what is wrong with alliances and treaties that do not have popular support.
(A) relations between nations that illustrates
(B) relation of one nation with another that illustrates
(C) relations between nations that illustrate
(D) relation of one nation with another and illustrate
(E) relations of nations that illustrates
I will go with C
...episodes.......illustrate.
The only thing that hit me initially was .....should have been relations....amongst rather than between nations....
But on rebound....I think between is as correct.
What is the OA?
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Shouldn't C read relations among nations?
Thus I like B
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Re: SC - Dr. Sayre’s lecture [#permalink]
20 Oct 2006, 08:16
ivymba wrote: Dr. Sayre’s lecture recounted several little-known episodes in the relations between nations that illustrates what is wrong with alliances and treaties that do not have popular support.
(A) relations between nations that illustrates
(B) relation of one nation with another that illustrates
(C) relations between nations that illustrate
(D) relation of one nation with another and illustrate
(E) relations of nations that illustrates
Must be C.
Highlighted part suggests that more than two countries are involved. No particular country is mentioned here. So, "between nations" seems correct.
Since the verb "illustrate/s" refers to the "relations between nations" rather than the lecture, "illustrate" is more appropriate.
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Dr. Sayre’s lecture recounted several little-known episodes (in the relations between nations) that illustrate/s what is wrong with alliances and treaties that do not have popular support.
S-V agreement
Plural(episodes) require Plural (illustrate)
Hence (C)
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ok guys OA time
its B
could someone throw some light on this ?
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ivymba wrote: ok guys OA time
its B
could someone throw some light on this ?
ahh.. tricky one...
Looks like its the lecture that illustrates...
not the episodes that illustrate...
Hmm.. the sentence is a little confusing.. would someone explain how we know for sure that its lecture and not episodes?
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ivymba wrote: ok guys OA time
its B
could someone throw some light on this ?
I'll stand by C until someone gives an explanation.
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anandsebastin wrote: ivymba wrote: ok guys OA time
its B
could someone throw some light on this ? I'll stand by C until someone gives an explanation. Lecture illustrates or episodes illustrate?
I guess..we can rewrite the sentence for convenience as "description of episodes in the lecture illustrates"
and going by "between" usage, B seems the best option.
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