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DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 13 Feb 2009, 00:00
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Water evaporates at the rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface. How long will it take to evaporate 30 liters of water from a swimming pool full of water with vertical walls and a flat bottom that holds 56 cubic meters of water?

1. The depth of the pool is 2 meters
2. The pool is circular with a radius of 3 meters

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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters [#permalink] New post 13 Feb 2009, 00:15
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Water evaporates at the rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface. How long will it take to evaporate 30 liters of water from a swimming pool full of water with vertical walls and a flat bottom that holds 56 cubic meters of water?

1. The depth of the pool is 2 meters
2. The pool is circular with a radius of 3 meters


B.

2. is suff to calculate surface area.
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters [#permalink] New post 13 Feb 2009, 00:59
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Water evaporates at the rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface. How long will it take to evaporate 30 liters of water from a swimming pool full of water with vertical walls and a flat bottom that holds 56 cubic meters of water?

1. The depth of the pool is 2 meters
2. The pool is circular with a radius of 3 meters


B.

2. is suff to calculate surface area.


D

We need to calculate surface area, since the walls are vertical, the surface area is same at base and at the water level.

Statement 1 : Area = volume / height --> Suff
Statement 2 : Area = pi * 3^2 --> Suff
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters [#permalink] New post 13 Feb 2009, 01:30
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alpha_plus_gamma wrote:
xALIx wrote:
Water evaporates at the rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface. How long will it take to evaporate 30 liters of water from a swimming pool full of water with vertical walls and a flat bottom that holds 56 cubic meters of water?

1. The depth of the pool is 2 meters
2. The pool is circular with a radius of 3 meters


B.

2. is suff to calculate surface area.


D

We need to calculate surface area, since the walls are vertical, the surface area is same at base and at the water level.

Statement 1 : Area = volume / height --> Suff
Statement 2 : Area = pi * 3^2 --> Suff


You are correct !
Silly me :)
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters [#permalink] New post 13 Feb 2009, 15:28
durgesh79 wrote:
D

We need to calculate surface area, since the walls are vertical, the surface area is same at base and at the water level.

Statement 1 : Area = volume / height --> Suff
Statement 2 : Area = pi * 3^2 --> Suff


OA is D.
Can you explain the rest of the calculation, I don't get how we can solve the problem.
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters [#permalink] New post 15 Feb 2009, 20:28
xALIx wrote:
durgesh79 wrote:
D

We need to calculate surface area, since the walls are vertical, the surface area is same at base and at the water level.

Statement 1 : Area = volume / height --> Suff
Statement 2 : Area = pi * 3^2 --> Suff


OA is D.
Can you explain the rest of the calculation, I don't get how we can solve the problem.
Thanks


Question : How long will it take to evaporate 30 liters of water,

Water evaporates @ 2 liters per hrs per square meter of surface, We have the volume of water (56 Cubic meter). so if we can find the surface area of the pool, we can answer the question.

The question becomes : what is the surface area of the pool ?.

No remember, it a DS question, so we dont need to find the actual area in term of square meter, we just have see if we have sufficient data or not

The question is : can we find surface area ?

and the answer is "YES WE CAN" :)
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2010, 07:07
Yes , answer can be calculated using both statements individually. So I will go with D
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2010, 08:42
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I agree that the answer should be D.

However, what I find interesting is that the 2 answers are not exactly the same.

1) Depth=2, Volume=56, ergo surface area=28

2) Surface Area= 9Pi==28.274. And thus our depth is different

If the answer is D, shouldn't both answers be exactly equal.

Am I missing something?
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2010, 08:54
misterchipper wrote:
I agree that the answer should be D.

However, what I find interesting is that the 2 answers are not exactly the same.

1) Depth=2, Volume=56, ergo surface area=28

2) Surface Area= 9Pi==28.274. And thus our depth is different

If the answer is D, shouldn't both answers be exactly equal.

Am I missing something?


In case of DS question we should just check if we can get the ans, that is if we have all the suffient data to solve the problem . We are not required to get the actual answer.
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2010, 09:29
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misterchipper wrote:
I agree that the answer should be D.

However, what I find interesting is that the 2 answers are not exactly the same.

1) Depth=2, Volume=56, ergo surface area=28

2) Surface Area= 9Pi==28.274. And thus our depth is different

If the answer is D, shouldn't both answers be exactly equal.

Am I missing something?


Above point is correct. +1 for spotting this.

In DS two statements never contradict, nor they are giving different answers to the question: statement 1 can not give the numerical value different from the numerical value calculated using statement 2.

Question needs revision.
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2010, 20:00
i got same Ans: D

area=volume/hight
so s1 and s2 both suff.
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2010, 04:05
Since using both the statements independently...
we can find out the surface area...
answer id d...
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 15 Jun 2010, 08:15
At first I chose B.

Thanks for clear explanation.
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2011, 07:27
"We need to calculate surface area, since the walls are vertical, the surface area is same at base and at the water level"

i cant get this. does anybody have a drawing? surface ares should be 2pi r2+ 2pi r h . why are you all using pi rh as a surface area formula?
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2011, 22:08
From stmt 1, how do we know the pool is in cylindrical shape?
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 02 Apr 2011, 09:52
Still cant get st 1. how do we know surface area? how do we know the pool shape?

PLZ somebody elaborate
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 02 Apr 2011, 10:12
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Still cant get st 1. how do we know surface area? how do we know the pool shape?

PLZ somebody elaborate
thank you

V=a*b*c

a, b, c - linear sizes of the pool
if we are given its depth (say "c"), we can find a*b. This is the surface.
Exactly what we need.

In 1) we consider the shape to be a parallelepiped.
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 02 Apr 2011, 11:16
ulm wrote:
tinki wrote:
Still cant get st 1. how do we know surface area? how do we know the pool shape?

PLZ somebody elaborate
thank you

V=a*b*c

a, b, c - linear sizes of the pool
if we are given its depth (say "c"), we can find a*b. This is the surface.
Exactly what we need.

In 1) we consider the shape to be a parallelepiped.


thanks a lot for response
But :
st. 2 explicitly says : The pool is circular. it means the two statements say 2 completely different things

and second : i know the surface area is: 2(ab+bc+ac) . u say ab is surface ares.
how that come?
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 03 Apr 2011, 03:23
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Water evaporates at the rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface. How long will it take to evaporate 30 liters of water from a swimming pool full of water with vertical walls and a flat bottom that holds 56 cubic meters of water?

1. The depth of the pool is 2 meters
2. The pool is circular with a radius of 3 meters

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This question has minor discrepancies. This reminded me of Units and Dimensions from Physics.

Rate of evaporation = Volume of water evaporated/(Time*Surface Area occupied by the water evaporated)

Time = Volume of water evaporated/(Rate of evaporation*Total Surface Area occupied by the water evaporated)

Volume of water evaporated=30 liters
Rate of evaporation = 2 l/(h*m^2)
Total Surface Area = ?
Time = (30/(2*Area)) hours = (15/Area) hours

Q: What is the total surface area of the water occupied by the water evaporated?

1. The depth of the pool is 2 meters
We don't know the shape of the pool and at least the information about the shape of the pool is required to find the area. We may require few more information but certainly this is insufficient.
The shape of the pool may be cylinder, rectangular box, triangular prism, pentagonal prism, cube. Note: the shape can't be conical as the walls are vertical and a cone is slanting.
Not Sufficient.

2.
The pool is circular with a radius of 3 meters.
We now know that the pool is cylindrical in shape and the radius of the cylinder=3m

The volume of water to be evaporated = 30l
1 liter=10^{-3} m^3
30 liters=30*10^{-3} m^3 = 0.03 m^3

Volume of a cylinder = \pi*r^2*h
0.03 = \pi*3^2*h

h = \frac{0.03}{9*\pi} = \frac{0.01}{3*\pi} m

Now, we have the height of the water evaporated and also the radius of the water evaporated. We can find the total surface area.

Area = 2*\pi*r(r+h)
r=3 meters
h = \frac{0.01}{3*\pi} meters
Sufficient.

Ans: "B"
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I don't think that the two statements contradict each other. But in my opinion, the answer is not "D". According to our finding, the swimming pool is a cylinder. Pool's radius=3m and height=2m.

Stem says; volume of the pool=56 cubic meter
\pi*r^2*h=\pi*3^2*2=\pi*18 \approx 56. Yes, I still don't like this approximate value though.
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Re: DS - Water evaporates at the rate of two liters (m07q26) [#permalink] New post 03 Apr 2011, 04:29
Hey fluke
Water evaporates at the rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface. How long will it take to evaporate 30 liters of water from a swimming pool full of water with vertical walls and a flat bottom that holds 56 cubic meters of water? ---> the volume of water in pool is known. Actually you are trying to find this volume laterally. But this is given to you. Now even if we dont know the geometry of the pool, but we know how much water it can hold. And from S1 we also know the height of the pool. Knowing the one dimension and knowing that pool is vertical, I can write

surface area of base * height = volume. Hence S1 is very sufficient information since we want the surface area of the base. I may be wrong, pls correct :-)
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