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During the Renaissance, scholars were uncertain as to the location of Troy, and by the eighteenth century many historians doubted that Troy had ever existed.

(A) doubted that Troy had ever existed
(B) doubt that Troy has ever existed
(C) were in doubt as to the existence of Troy
(D) were doubtful concerning Troy’s existence
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21 Jul 2008, 19:41
jallenmorris wrote:
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During the Renaissance, scholars were uncertain as to the location of Troy, and by the eighteenth century many historians doubted that Troy had ever existed.

(A) doubted that Troy had ever existed
"had ever existed" is correct because the existence of Troy is something happened (or didn't happen) in the past. The action of existence is entirely contained in the past, thefore, "had ever existed" is correct. I am a bit concerned with "ever" being in between "had" and "existed", but this is the best choice of them all.
(B) doubt that Troy has ever existed
(C) were in doubt as to the existence of Troy
(D) were doubtful concerning Troy’s existence

Thanks.OA is (A)
I marked (C) since thought its something related to parallelism.Rest are incorrect.
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22 Jul 2008, 07:06
jallenmorris wrote:
A.

spriya wrote:
During the Renaissance, scholars were uncertain as to the location of Troy, and by the eighteenth century many historians doubted that Troy had ever existed.

(A) doubted that Troy had ever existed
"had ever existed" is correct because the existence of Troy is something happened (or didn't happen) in the past. The action of existence is entirely contained in the past, thefore, "had ever existed" is correct. I am a bit concerned with "ever" being in between "had" and "existed", but this is the best choice of them all.
(B) doubt that Troy has ever existed
(C) were in doubt as to the existence of Troy
(D) were doubtful concerning Troy’s existence

Can you explain with details why C is incorrect.
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22 Jul 2008, 07:09
I think C distorts the meaning and we have to look to the original stem to figure out what the author is trying to say. The authors are saying that Troy, if it even existed, existed in the past. C says that historians were in "doubt as to the existence of Troy". This appears to mean that some hsitorians thought Troy existed in the present (the historians present of the 18th Century). This isn't what the author is saying. The historians in the 18th century are debating whether Troy had existed. Troy existed in the past and no longer does, so this would be past perfect tense.

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jallenmorris wrote:
A.

spriya wrote:
During the Renaissance, scholars were uncertain as to the location of Troy, and by the eighteenth century many historians doubted that Troy had ever existed.

(A) doubted that Troy had ever existed
"had ever existed" is correct because the existence of Troy is something happened (or didn't happen) in the past. The action of existence is entirely contained in the past, thefore, "had ever existed" is correct. I am a bit concerned with "ever" being in between "had" and "existed", but this is the best choice of them all.
(B) doubt that Troy has ever existed
(C) were in doubt as to the existence of Troy
(D) were doubtful concerning Troy’s existence

Can you explain with details why C is incorrect.

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22 Jul 2008, 08:42
I think C distorts the meaning and we have to look to the original stem to figure out what the author is trying to say. The authors are saying that Troy, if it even existed, existed in the past. C says that historians were in "doubt as to the existence of Troy". This appears to mean that some hsitorians thought Troy existed in the present (the historians present of the 18th Century). This isn't what the author is saying. The historians in the 18th century are debating whether Troy had existed. Troy existed in the past and no longer does, so this would be past perfect tense.

x2suresh wrote:
A.

spriya wrote:
During the Renaissance, scholars were uncertain as to the location of Troy, and by the eighteenth century many historians doubted that Troy had ever existed.

(A) doubted that Troy had ever existed
"had ever existed" is correct because the existence of Troy is something happened (or didn't happen) in the past. The action of existence is entirely contained in the past, thefore, "had ever existed" is correct. I am a bit concerned with "ever" being in between "had" and "existed", but this is the best choice of them all.
(B) doubt that Troy has ever existed
(C) were in doubt as to the existence of Troy
(D) were doubtful concerning Troy’s existence

Can you explain with details why C is incorrect.[/quote][/quote]

Good explanation.
I believe most of the doubts in past perfect usage is cleared now
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20 Jan 2011, 10:33
went with C as well. But thanks for the explanation. A looks alright.
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04 Feb 2011, 14:29
A, based purely on the intended meaning of the sentence and not on the general grammatical rules. C has better structure than A. Looks like we need to look for meaning also, when confronted with 2 grammatically correct choices.
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