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Each of the 30 boxes in a certain shipment weighs either 10 pounds or 20 pounds, and average (arithmetic mean) weight of the boxes in the shipment is 18 pounds. If the average weight of the boxes in the shipment is to be reduced to 14 pounds by removing some of the 20-pound boxes, how many 20-pound boxes must be removed?

A. 4
B. 6
C. 10
D. 20
E. 24

OA D IMO B


Long question stem. Best approach here would be to analyze one sentence at a time.

Each of the 30 boxes in a certain shipment weighs either 10 pounds or 20 pounds, and average (arithmetic mean) weight of the boxes in the shipment is 18 pounds.

If average of 10 and 20 is 18, the ratio of no. of 10 pound boxes: no of 20 pound boxes is 1:4
(If this concept is not clear, check out https://gmatclub.com/forum/tough-ds-105651.html#p828579)
So out of 30 boxes, 6 are 10 pound boxes and 24 are 20 pound boxes.

If the average weight of the boxes in the shipment is to be reduced to 14 pounds by removing some of the 20-pound boxes

Now average of 10 and 20 pound boxes is to be 14. So ratio of no. of 10 pound boxes:no. of 20 pound boxes = 3:2
The number of 10 pound boxes remain the same so we still have 6 of them. To get a ratio of 3:2, the no of 20 pound boxes must be 4.

how many 20-pound boxes must be removed?
There were 24 of these. Now there are only 4. 24 - 4 = 20 should be removed.
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Each of the 30 boxes in a certain shipment weighs either 10 pounds or 20 pounds, and average (arithmetic mean) weight of the boxes in the shipment is 18 pounds. If the average weight of the boxes in the shipment is to be reduced to 14 pounds by removing some of the 20-pound boxes, how many 20-pound boxes must be removed?

A. 4
B. 6
C. 10
D. 20
E. 24

OA D IMO B


x = 20 lb box:

20x + 10(30-x) = 18(30)
x = (540 - 300)/10
x = 24

If k = removed 20 lb box:

20(24-k)+ 10(6) = 14(6+24-k)
480 - 20k + 60 = 420 - 14k
540 - 420 = 6k
540 - 420 = 6k
k = 120/6 = 20
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dont you have to reduce the average weight of 30 booxes to 14 pounds?
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dont you have to reduce the average weight of 30 booxes to 14 pounds?


Yes, the average weight of the 30 boxes is to be reduced to 14 pounds by removing some of the 20-pound boxes.

We found that there were 6 10-pound boxes and 24 20-pound boxes.

So, if \(y\) is the number of 20-pound boxes that should be removed so that average to become 14 pounds --> \(\frac{10*6+20*(24-y)}{30-y}=14\), (note that as we are reducing the # of 20-pound boxes (24) by y then the total # of boxes (30) also will be reduced by y) --> \(y=20\).

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So, if \(y\) is the number of 20-pound boxes that should be removed so that average to become 14 pounds --> \(\frac{10*6+20*(24-y)}{30-y}=14\), (note that as we are reducing the # of 20-pound boxes (24) by y then the total # of boxes (30) also will be reduced by y--> is this implied or an assumption) --> \(y=20\).

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See my comment in Red Italics. What if we make an attempt to keep total number of boxes 30 by adding \(y\) 10-pound boxes. Does this have to be specifically mentioned in the question?
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x boxes of 10pounds
y boxes of 20pounds
x+y = 30

\((10*x+20*y)/30=18\)

\(10x+20y=540\)

Let ? be the number of 20 pound boxes which should be removed in order to get the average weight of 14pounds

\((10*x+20*y-20*?)/(30-?)=14\)

\((540-20*?)= (420-14*?)\)

\(? = (120/6) = 20\)
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Bunuel wrote:
So, if \(y\) is the number of 20-pound boxes that should be removed so that average to become 14 pounds --> \(\frac{10*6+20*(24-y)}{30-y}=14\), (note that as we are reducing the # of 20-pound boxes (24) by y then the total # of boxes (30) also will be reduced by y--> is this implied or an assumption) --> \(y=20\).

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See my comment in Red Italics. What if we make an attempt to keep total number of boxes 30 by adding \(y\) 10-pound boxes. Does this have to be specifically mentioned in the question?


You should read the stem more carefully: "If the average weight of the boxes in the shipment is to be reduced to 14 pounds by removing some of the 20-pound boxes, how many 20-pound boxes must be removed?" So stem mentions that the reduction in average weight should be made by removing some of the 20-pound boxes.

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N1+ N2 = 30

10(N1) + 20(N1)
_____________ =18
N1+ N2

----- > solve 10(N1) + 20(N2) = 18(N1) + 18(N2)

So n1 =6 n2 = 24

Now N1 will not change ONLY n2 will change so

reduce the average to 14

10(6) + 20(N2) = 14(6) + 14(N2)

N2 =4

So it has to reduce by 20
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This is how I solved

X+Y =30

from condition given

10X+20Y = 540

therefore X=6 and Y = 24

Condition 2
X= 6 Y changes by "n" and avg weight of 30-n =14

therefore

10*6 + 20(24-n)=14( 30-n)

after solving the above equation we have

n=20

Ans is D
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MBAhereIcome wrote:
total current weight = 30*18 = 540
let's assume that x number of 20lbs boxes will be removed

\(\frac{540-20x}{30-x} = 14\)

x = 20 ............. D


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Each of the 30 boxes in a certain shipment weighs either 10 pounds or 20 pounds, and average (arithmetic mean) weight of the boxes in the shipment is 18 pounds. If the average weight of the boxes in the shipment is to be reduced to 14 pounds by removing some of the 20-pound boxes, how many 20-pound boxes must be removed?

A. 4
B. 6
C. 10
D. 20
E. 24

OA D IMO B


Easy question:

suppose 10 pound boxes = x
20 pound boxes = (30-x)

Given in question >> [x*10+(30-x)*20]/30=18

=> [x*10+(30-x)*20] = 540 ----eq. 1 .. Leave it like this.

Now we have to remove some 20 Pound boxes

let 20 pound boxes removed = a
new equation will be >> [x*10+(30-x-a)*20]/(30-a)=14
>> x*10+(30-x)*20 - 20a = 14(30-a)
From eq 1 >> 540 - 20a = 420 -14a
solve for a, and you'll get a=20 ..

I made it look quite big, but I solved it under 2 minutes using this in first try on such question
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My solution is as below:

10x+ (30-x)20 = 540
x=6 (no. of 10 pound boxes)
hence 24 is no. of 20 pound boxes

If y is the new no. of 20 pound boxes required to make the average 14 then,

(10*6+20y) /(6+y) = 14

y=4

hence the no. of 20 pound boxes to be removed is 24-4 = 20 boxes
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Hi All,

This question can be solved in a number of different ways - including by TESTing THE ANSWERS. There's a Number Property rule that can actually make that solution a bit faster.

We're told that the average weight is 18 pounds, which makes the total weight 540 pounds (18 pounds x 30 boxes = 540 pounds)

Since the box weights are 10 or 20 pounds each, you can figure out the number of each rather quickly.

If there were 30 20-pound boxes, then the total weight would be 600 pounds.
Since the total weight is 540 pounds, that means that 6 of the boxes weigh 10 pounds instead of 20 pounds.

So, there are:
6 10-pound boxes
24 20-pound boxes

Since we want to remove some number of the 20-pound boxes and get an average weight of 14 pounds, we know that the number of 10-pound boxes MUST BE greater than the number of 20-pound boxes (this is a Weighted Average Number Property). Since we have 6 10-pound boxes, we need to remove at least 19 20-pound boxes.

We can certainly TEST answer D first OR we can note that answer E (24) would eliminate ALL of the 20-pound boxes, which would make the average of the remaining boxes 10 pounds, which is too low (and would prove that answer D was correct).

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Can this be solved using a simultaneous equation?


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Hi nehasiyer,

Yes, you can solve this problem Algebraically (and that's what a number of the other posts in this thread presented with their explanations).

To start, I'm going to use the following variables:
X = the NUMBER of 10-pound boxes
Y = the NUMBER of 20-pound boxes

From the initial prompt, we can create the following 2 equations:

X + Y = 30

(10X + 20Y)/30 = 18

From here, you can either use Substitution or Combination to get the exact values of X and Y (they are X=6 and Y=24). With that information, we now have the SUM of the WEIGHTS of all of the boxes (re: 540 pounds). We're asked to remove a certain number of 20-pound boxes so that the average drops to 14 pounds.

Z = the NUMBER of 20-pound boxes that must be removed

(540 - 20Z)/(30 - Z) = 14

Since this is 1 variable and 1 equation, you can solve for Z.

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Each of the 30 boxes in a certain shipment weighs either 10 pounds or 20 pounds, and the average (arithmetic mean) weight of the boxes in the shipment is 18 pounds. If the average weight of the boxes in the shipment is to be reduced to 14 pounds by removing some of the 20-pound boxes, how many 20-pound boxes must be removed?

Given the average weight of the 30 boxes is 18 pounds each. Hence the total weight = 540 pounds.
Considering we have K 10 pound boxes and 30 - K, 20-pound boxes.
The average is given by :
\(\frac{\left(\left(K\right)\cdot\left(10\right)+\left(30-K\right)\cdot\left(20\right)\right)}{30}=\ 18\)
Expanding this we have :
10K +600 - 20K = 540.
10K = 60.
K = 6, 30-K = 24. Hence we have 6 10 pound boxes and 24 20 pound boxes.
Now since we would like to reduce the average to 14 only by removing 20-pound boxes. We can do this by :
Consider we remove x boxes of 20 pounds each to reduce the average to 14 pounds.
The equation can be expressed by : \(\frac{\left(\left(10\right)\left(6\right)+\left(20\right)\cdot\left(24-x\right)\right)}{30-x}=\ 14\)
Expanding this: We have
60+480 -20x = 420 - 14x.
6x = 120
x = 20.
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