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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 31 Aug 2010, 14:10
I understand "as" should be used in this comparison but the "even" throws everything off. The sentences doesn't seem to make sense anymore.
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2010, 20:57
could somone explain whats wrong with B?
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 02 Sep 2010, 08:41
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Even as they never forgave the Crusaders who overran their homeland, the Syrians have never absolved the French for taking territory from them.

(A) Even as they never forgave
(B) While they never forgave
(C) Just like they never forgave
(D) Similarly to not forgiving
(E) In spite of their never forgiving

Should not the answer be C? What is wrong in C?



A is correct answer because the sentence talks about 2 actions that are similiar. Therefore, B wrong, while used to say 2 contrasting things. C wrong because just like used for compare noun or noun phrase.
D worng, the same reason with C. E awkward
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 02 Sep 2010, 16:20
I was confused all the time and was suspecting EVEN here as introducing stress. But then looked into Cambridhge dictionary and everything is clear now:

even as
at the same time as

I tried to reason with him, but even as I started to explain what had happened he stood up to leave.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/even_1#even_1__3
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 03 Oct 2010, 08:44
same here.
this one is still there.

nageshshiv wrote:
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 15 Feb 2011, 03:53
I think this question is wrong...
Shouldn't "even" be used to show contrast.. I think "even" is a misprint or something because if we were to remove "even" from the original sentence, it would make perfect sense.. and option A would be definitely correct..

Please correct me if I'm wrong..
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 15 Feb 2011, 12:54
A is right answer. Other than A all are awkward.
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 15 Feb 2011, 22:48
A is correct.
C is wrong because it is creating similarity. while the implication is more to do with not absolving, even when they didnt forgive
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 26 May 2011, 04:49
I also think A & B are probable answers; Looks like not fit case for GMAT
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 28 May 2011, 19:21
+1 A

"Just like" is wrong in the GMAT.
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 02 Sep 2011, 11:26
This question is suspect. The phrases "never absolve" and "never forgave" do not delineate two contrasting situations--actually, they are parallel in reasoning, so answer should express this continuity using an introductory phrase like "Just as they never forgave...." or "Similarly to not forgiving the Crusaders..."

"Similarly" does the same job as "Just as.." in comparing two actions.

The phrase "Even as..." in the OA i.e. answer choice A, does not really convey the intended contrast.
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 02 Sep 2011, 15:00
Confused b/w A,B and C.

A is confusion because of "Even" in the begining.
C is wrong "like" can't be used to compare actions. It should be only used for comparing nouns and hence wrong.


Not sure about B.
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 03 Sep 2011, 07:32
I agree with A. It's by far the pick of the lot.

If this question had the option "Just as....", that may have been the best fit and the question as a result would've been a lot simpler.

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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 03 Sep 2011, 19:32
279. Even as they never forgave the Crusaders who overran their homeland, the Syrians have never absolved the French for taking territory from them.
(A) Even as they never forgave
(B) While they never forgave
(C) Just like they never forgave
(D) Similarly to not forgiving
(E) In spite of their never forgiving

Correct answer is A.. Since

B ---- > While is used for conditional comparision but you do not have such comaparision here.
C ---- > Just like shouldn't be used for comparision.
D ---- > Awkard formation of sentence.
E ---- > Inspite of is used to compare counter clauses but here both of them are based on similar actions NOT FORGAVE/NEVER ABSOLVED
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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2011, 00:56
Ans is A

traditionally like is a preposition and as is a conjunction
When to Use Like, When to Use As

The proper way to differentiate between like and as is to use like when no verb follows (2). For example, Squiggly throws like a raccoon or It acted just like my computer. Notice that when I use like, the words that come after are generally simple. A raccoon and my computer are the objects of the preposition.

If the clause that comes next includes a verb, then you should use as. For example, Squiggly throws as if he were a raccoon or It acted just as I would expect my computer to behave. Notice that when I use as, the words that come after tend to be more complex.

You generally hear like used in everyday speech, so that helps me remember that like is the simpler word—or at least it is followed by simpler words. As sounds stuffier and is followed by a more complex clause that contains a verb.
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Re: Even as they never forgave the Crusaders who overran their [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2012, 04:59
+1 for (A)
"as"is correctly used for comparison
"just like "is not appropriate for comparison.
rest all are awkward.
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Re: Even as they never forgave the Crusaders who overran their [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2012, 06:28
Chose A. Not B because while has to draw a contrast, not the case here. Not C because of 'like'. D and E did not even seem to come close so marked them off. Very confusing question.

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Re: Even as they never forgave [#permalink] New post 17 Dec 2013, 18:39
vigneshpandi wrote:
I have the same question. Why B is not correct?


I third that question! Bumping for further discussion. Why is "While" wrong?
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