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Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs.

(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough

(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring




In this problem, I chose B, but the OA is C. What makes C better than B?
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Re: SC: Weird Problem [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2008, 06:41
tarek99 wrote:
Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs.

(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough

(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring




In this problem, I chose B, but the OA is C. What makes C better than B?
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B is awkward ans wordy: nothing other is a bad negative form for C, which is plain and has a positive meaning. always prefer positive forms!
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Re: SC: Weird Problem [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2008, 09:32
ahh..

this is where i start to lose GMAT.

For me, A and B have different meaning and intention than C.
"no less than A" is not equal to "A" for me. The spirit of the sentence is to impart a sense of urgency and re-iterate the fact that efforts may be put in place, but the efforts will not succed unless they reach a certain level.

On the other hand, C seems to indicate that "a technical breakthrough is necessary", but does not address the fact that there may be efforts in place which may not be classified as technical breakthroughs, and therefore will fail.

anyone else see it this way?
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Re: SC: Weird Problem [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2008, 18:37
tarek99 wrote:
Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs.

(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough

(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring




In this problem, I chose B, but the OA is C. What makes C better than B?
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Go for brevity. There is nothing wrong with C so why chose the wordier B?
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Re: SC: Weird Problem [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2008, 18:47
Struck between A and C

(A) hat no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary (No less than verbose – "necessary" implies it or serves this purpose – Eliminate it)

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed (needed – Tense Change - Eliminate)

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary (Hold it)

(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough (Grammatically Correct – But verbose – Eliminate it)

(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring (Why to make it a present continuous tense – Eliminate it)
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Re: SC: Weird Problem [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2008, 21:52
I will go for C. C is the most concise out of all the option list.
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Re: SC: Weird Problem [#permalink] New post 19 Aug 2010, 20:04
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ahh..

this is where i start to lose GMAT.

For me, A and B have different meaning and intention than C.
"no less than A" is not equal to "A" for me. The spirit of the sentence is to impart a sense of urgency and re-iterate the fact that efforts may be put in place, but the efforts will not succed unless they reach a certain level.

On the other hand, C seems to indicate that "a technical breakthrough is necessary", but does not address the fact that there may be efforts in place which may not be classified as technical breakthroughs, and therefore will fail.

anyone else see it this way?



I read a chinese history book, which had similar usages..
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Re: SC: Weird Problem [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2010, 01:07
IMO C, it is concise, without any sacrifice in meaning :)
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I don't agree that C has different meaning than A and B.

If anything "less than" (A) or "not a" (B) breakthrough is not acceptable, why not just say that in the sentence and concisely state what IS necessary.

I choose C.
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Re: SC: Weird Problem [#permalink] New post 21 Aug 2010, 09:49
The question states that "no less than a technical and scientific breakthrough is necessary". No less than here implies that whatever their champions do should be atleast equal to a technical and scientific breakthrough which is what option C states but in a more concise way.

Hence C.
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Re: Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2014, 03:29
No less than means at least right? so there could be something beyond a technical or scientific breakthrough, I'm not sure what but there could be something. Isn't it?
So why are we considering only a technical or scientific breakthrough? Can someone please throw some light on this?

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Re: Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2014, 09:01
tarek99 wrote:
Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs.

(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough

(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring




In this problem, I chose B, but the OA is C. What makes C better than B?
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Its C !!

Reasoning as follows :

first deconstruct the sentence in its smaller dependent clauses or independent clauses

Dependent Clause 1 - Even their most ardent champions concede < Subject is their, Verb is Conceded >

Dependent Clause 2 - that no less < that subject ...Verb - absent >

Dependent Clause 3 - than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary[/u] before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs. < Subject - A technical & scientific breakthrough, Verb - is necessary >

Now Structure of Complete sentence is DC1+DC2+DC3 = 1 IC

In this DC2 : lacks verb because of which it is wrong in A & B

In C : 2 Dc are connected by that , to make 1 IC, thus most appropiate andwer.

Tip : In case of confusion, always deconstruct sentence into its main & sub clauses.

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