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extremely low gpa, and already in the end of 3rd year now

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extremely low gpa, and already in the end of 3rd year now [#permalink] New post   27 May 2010, 06:35
do you guys think i should just blow my brains out right now?
my gpa so far is 2.3, i go to college in asia~
i don't know how the adcom looks at the pretty low gpa from other coutries?
will it still hurt after youve worked for 3 years over?

well i know im not an a student, but i don't think im that much a c student, coz our school is pretty strict about the grades and half of our class r nerds~ its almost impossible to get over a 3.0 for a whole semester~
its kind of unfair, i'm not complaining, but really, why do they think a low gpa is that bad? i mean i know its a pullback
but why do i keep finding people with a low gpa but very high gmat score still getting rejected? some even got a 780 on gmat, but still got dinged by schools like wharton and hbs~ and even kelloggs

im getting stressed now, im preparing for gmat and stuff~ and ive just so got a job offer from a trading company~ not too worried about my career now~ but i really wanna go to a business school~ im not too picky about schools, but at least as an asian like me, i can find a job in california with that degree~

i was thinking, maybe if i got a 680 on gmat, then i would submit to schools with a 650 average gmat score~ but things turned out not like i thought, people with 700+ gmat still get rejected by 3rd tier schools for a low gpa~
so now im starting to wonder if the adcom just eliminates your profile without any consideration, if its real so, ill be real sad~

i want some real word, sometimes people say gpa is important coz they have a 4.0 gpa, and theres those who say gpa doesnt even matter coz they got a lot of f's~
any useful advice other than defensive speeches? i know a 2.3 is hurtful, but i wanan make sure if its really keeping you out, even for a medium school like san diego u?
and what about gpa that's measured in a far different country, like Taiwan?
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Re: extremely low gpa, and already in the end of 3rd year now [#permalink] New post   27 May 2010, 06:56
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So a few things. First, are you converting your GPA or is it really a 2.3? Sometimes people do their own conversions and things get a bit screwy there.

Second -- and im sure this comes as no surprise, but, yes a 2.3 will hurt your chances at top schools. You say "even" Kellogg, but make no mistake about it - Kellogg is squarely in the top 5 schools in the US -- and arguably even in the top 3. The issue is simply that those schools can pick virtually anyone they want -- and there are plenty of candidates with *both* good GPAs and good GMATs. That's not to say that you don't have a chance -- it just that you will need to fight even harder to get in to a "top" program.

That said, it doesn't sound like Harvard/Stanford/etc are really your target schools anyway -- if your goal is simply to work / live in CA and attend a good program, you can probably be sucessful.

Third -- you are in a unique position to know your GPA is low while you are still in the program. 99.99% of us find out our GPA is a 'problem' years after graduating -- you have the very fortunate ability to do something about it *now*. Even if your overall GPA remains low -- say 2.5 by graduation, if your final year is substantially better - say 3.0 or 3.5 -- then you can point to that in your essays and say "Look! I struggled my first year or two but ....."

I have to run but in other words:

* Don't blow your brains out, you need them to do well on the GMAT
* Don't despair
* You recognized a weakness early in your career
* You are in the unique position to be able to control (somewhat) your GPA, and that's great.
* Focus on improving your last year
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Re: extremely low gpa, and already in the end of 3rd year now [#permalink] New post   27 May 2010, 07:06
thx ceo, i'm not blowing my brains out literally~ maybe shooting at random people? lol just kidding~
i just wanna figure out any way to make my screwed up gpa at least not look that bad~ and maybe i can somehow make them ignore that gpa~ i know its near impossible, but with some brilliant work experience or a higher gmat~ i still give it hope, i dont mean an unknown college is worthless, but it's not so good for me~ coz i'm asian~ and i know most companies only take asians from notable schools~ so that'd be my concerns~
what if i point out that my gpa was calculated differently in another country, would it work?
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Re: extremely low gpa, and already in the end of 3rd year now [#permalink] New post   27 May 2010, 10:19
I find it strange that you are more worried about what people will think of your GPA in four years time than the fact that it is low right now.

I don't think the Asians (or anyone) only from notable schools thing is true. Academia is only one component of getting into a School. With a bad GPA you simply have to be pretty stellar at the others.
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Re: extremely low gpa, and already in the end of 3rd year now [#permalink] New post   27 May 2010, 10:35
1. up your gpa for the final yr.
2. get some solid work experience under your belt - quick promotions, mgmt responsibilities, etc.
3. ace the gmat.

then you'll have a shot at the good programs.

also, it doesn't seem like you need to get into the ultra elite programs for your goals...so it doesn't hurt to get into a good but not great program.

here's my background: my-road-to-oxford-sbs-and-insead-89413.html
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Re: extremely low gpa, and already in the end of 3rd year now [#permalink] New post   27 May 2010, 12:05
There are some schools that only caculate GPA's based on upper division (jr/sr) level work. McCombs comes to mind. A good senior year balanced out with an ok junior year and you may be in the running.

As others point out your in a good spot as you've realized your deficiencies while there is still time.

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Re: extremely low gpa, and already in the end of 3rd year now [#permalink] New post   27 May 2010, 16:39
rhyme wrote:
So a few things. First, are you converting your GPA or is it really a 2.3? Sometimes people do their own conversions and things get a bit screwy there.

Second -- and im sure this comes as no surprise, but, yes a 2.3 will hurt your chances at top schools. You say "even" Kellogg, but make no mistake about it - Kellogg is squarely in the top 5 schools in the US -- and arguably even in the top 3. The issue is simply that those schools can pick virtually anyone they want -- and there are plenty of candidates with *both* good GPAs and good GMATs. That's not to say that you don't have a chance -- it just that you will need to fight even harder to get in to a "top" program.

That said, it doesn't sound like Harvard/Stanford/etc are really your target schools anyway -- if your goal is simply to work / live in CA and attend a good program, you can probably be sucessful.

Third -- you are in a unique position to know your GPA is low while you are still in the program. 99.99% of us find out our GPA is a 'problem' years after graduating -- you have the very fortunate ability to do something about it *now*. Even if your overall GPA remains low -- say 2.5 by graduation, if your final year is substantially better - say 3.0 or 3.5 -- then you can point to that in your essays and say "Look! I struggled my first year or two but ....."

I have to run but in other words:

* Don't blow your brains out, you need them to do well on the GMAT
* Don't despair
* You recognized a weakness early in your career
* You are in the unique position to be able to control (somewhat) your GPA, and that's great.
* Focus on improving your last year

i say kellogs, coz its heard to be one of the schools that doesnt weigh too much on gpa, and he still got rejected. I know northwestern university is on the top ten list.
im thinking that maybe the thunderbird is a very good choice for me, still dont know if can get in. i just have to see more sucess stories to prove my point
really thank you a lot anyway
looks like ive just got some help here
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Re: extremely low gpa, and already in the end of 3rd year now [#permalink] New post   29 May 2010, 13:23
First I don't think you really should worry about your GMAT's at this point. Focus on your career. Since you are in at a trading company, if you move up, you may not even need to get an MBA. Also remember GMAT's have a 5 year life span.

I agree with everyone else about working on your final year. Right now all you can really do is finish on a high note then worry about MBA later. Frankly, I think you should just worry about career first and not worry about MBA. The longer you are away from college the less GPA matters.
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Re: extremely low gpa, and already in the end of 3rd year now [#permalink] New post   06 Sep 2017, 02:38
You have not mentioned which field you are majoring in. If it's in STEM - I cant help you out, but if its in humanities, I can help you out. PM me if you have questions.
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