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Re: Nice question and a good way to solve.... [#permalink]

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We can form a total of 4! or 24 numbers.When we add all these numbers ,let us look at the contribution of of the digit 2 to the sum.

When 2 occurs in the thousand place in a particular number,its contribution in the total will be 2000.the number of numbers that can be formed with 2 in the thousand place is 3! i.e 6 numbers.Hence when 2 is in the thousands place its contribution to the sum is 3! * 2000

Similarly when 2 occurs in the hundreds place, its contribution to the sum is 3! * 200

Similarly when 2 occurs in the tenth place, its contribution to the sum is 3! * 20

Similarly when 2 occurs in the unit place, its contribution to the sum is 3! * 10

The total contribution of 2 to the sum is 3! *(2000+200+20+1)=3!*2222 In a similar manner ,the contribution of 3,4, and 5 to sum will respectively be 3!*3333,3!*4444 and 3!*5555

Hence total sum using the aove four digits 3!*(2222+3333+4444+5555) i.e 3! *(2+3+4+5) * 1111

Now we can generalize the above

If all the possible n digit numbers using n distinct digits are formed ,the sum of all the numbers so formed is equal to (n-1)! * ( sum of the n digits ) *( 1111...n times)

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ankitranjan wrote:

Find the sum of all the four digit numbers formed using the digits 2,3,4 and 5 without repetition.

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if you keep the digit 2 at the one's digit. The total numbers that can be formed is 3! = 6 => 2 occurs at one's digit 6 times. Similarly all the 4 numbers occurs at one's digit 6 times.

Similar all the 4 numbers occurs at all the 4 digits - one's,ten's, hundred's, thousand's- 6 times.

Actually there is the direct formula for this kind of problems. Of course it's better to understand the concept, then to memorize the formula but in case someone is interested here it is:

1. Sum of all the numbers which can be formed by using the \(n\) digits without repetition is: (n-1)!*(sum of the digits)*(111…..n times).

2. Sum of all the numbers which can be formed by using the \(n\) digits (repetition being allowed) is: \(n^{n-1}\)*(sum of the digits)*(111…..n times).

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Hi Bunuel, So in the below question if we apply the formula shouldn't we consider 4 as n? Find the sum of all the four digit numbers formed using the digits 2,3,4 and 5 without repetition. (4-1)*(2+3+4+5)*1111 Many thanks for your help. Aybige

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aybige wrote:

Hi Bunuel, So in the below question if we apply the formula shouldn't we consider 4 as n? Find the sum of all the four digit numbers formed using the digits 2,3,4 and 5 without repetition. (4-1)!*(2+3+4+5)*1111 Many thanks for your help. Aybige

Correct, but you've missed factorial (!). It should be: (4-1)!*(2+3+4+5)*(1111)=93324. _________________

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