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Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))).. [PS: nested sq. root sequence is repeated infinite times.]

A. 0
B. \sqrt{3}
C. 3
D. 2.9
E. cannot be determined.

[Reveal] Spoiler:
a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.))))
sq. both sides
a^2=3(√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))))
or
a^2=3a ; since, a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.))))
a^2-3a=0
a(a-3)=0
a=0/3
0 logically doesn't fit so 3 is the ans :)


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Re: Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))) [#permalink] New post 29 Aug 2012, 07:15
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Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))).. [PS: nested sq. root sequence is repeated infinite times.]

A. 0
B. \sqrt{3}
C. 3
D. 2.9
E. cannot be determined.

[Reveal] Spoiler:
a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.))))
sq. both sides
a^2=3(√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))))
or
a^2=3a ; since, a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.))))
a^2-3a=0
a(a-3)=0
a=0/3
0 logically doesn't fit so 3 is the ans :)


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Re: Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))) [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2012, 06:24
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Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))).. [PS: nested sq. root sequence is repeated infinite times.]

A. 0
B. \sqrt{3}
C. 3
D. 2.9
E. cannot be determined.

[Reveal] Spoiler:
a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.))))
sq. both sides
a^2=3(√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))))
or
a^2=3a ; since, a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.))))
a^2-3a=0
a(a-3)=0
a=0/3
0 logically doesn't fit so 3 is the ans :)


Interesting question.
Mods, if the question needs reformatting please do so, as i was not able to properly use the sqrt symbol, given in the editor.
Added a pic, pls pardon my drawing :)


For those who are confused by formatting:

If a=\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3...}}}}, what is the value of a?

A. 0
B. \sqrt{3}
C. 3
D. 2.9
E. cannot be determined.


a=\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3...}}}} --> a=\sqrt{3(\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3...}}})}. Now, as the expression under the square root extends infinitely, then expression in brackets would equal to a itself, so we can safely replace it with a and rewrite the given expression as a=\sqrt{3a}.

Square it: a^2=3a --> a=0 or a=3 --> since a=0 does not satisfy given expression, then we have only one solution: a=3.

Answer: C.
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Re: Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))) [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2012, 01:20
a = sqrt(3*a)

squaring both sides

a^2 = 3a

=> a = 3.

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Re: Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))) [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2012, 01:40
Here a=0 or a=3, both are possible. Don't know which one to pick A or C. Should we take a as +ve by default?
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Here a=0 or a=3, both are possible. Don't know which one to pick A or C. Should we take a as +ve by default?


Zero is neither positive nor negative number.

Also, a=0 does not satisfy the equation because the left hand side of the equation is clearly positive.
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Re: Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))) [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2012, 02:02
I think this will be an endless sequence of multiples of 3....

for me this should be E) cannot be determined
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Re: Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))) [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2012, 03:48
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a = sqrt(3*a)

squaring both sides

a^2 = 3a

=> a = 3.

Is this correct?


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Re: Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))) [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2012, 06:17
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cracked wrote:
a = sqrt(3*a)

squaring both sides

a^2 = 3a

=> a = 3.

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your approach is correct. 3 is correct answer
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Re: Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))) [#permalink] New post 02 Sep 2012, 12:54
Found another way of solving it:
We can rewrite the equation:

a=3^(1/2)*3^(1/4)*3^(1/8)*...
a=3^(1/2+1/4+1/8+1/16+...)

1/2+1/4+1/8+...=1 (ok, one has to know this equation, I think)

a=3^1=3
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Re: Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))) [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2014, 18:53
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conty911 wrote:
Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))).. [PS: nested sq. root sequence is repeated infinite times.]

A. 0
B. \sqrt{3}
C. 3
D. 2.9
E. cannot be determined.

[Reveal] Spoiler:
a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.))))
sq. both sides
a^2=3(√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))))
or
a^2=3a ; since, a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.))))
a^2-3a=0
a(a-3)=0
a=0/3
0 logically doesn't fit so 3 is the ans :)


Interesting question.
Mods, if the question needs reformatting please do so, as i was not able to properly use the sqrt symbol, given in the editor.
Added a pic, pls pardon my drawing :)


For those who are confused by formatting:

If a=\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3...}}}}, what is the value of a?

A. 0
B. \sqrt{3}
C. 3
D. 2.9
E. cannot be determined.


a=\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3...}}}} --> a=\sqrt{3(\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3...}}})}. Now, as the expression under the square root extends infinitely, then expression in brackets would equal to a itself, so we can safely replace it with a and rewrite the given expression as a=\sqrt{3a}.

Square it: a^2=3a --> a=0 or a=3 --> since a=0 does not satisfy given expression, then we have only one solution: a=3.

Answer: C.



Another genius explanation from Bunuel, Kudos to you :)

I had in mind that \sqrt{3} = 1.732 To square root it multiple times will give the value 1.00000000000xxxxxxxxxxx & so on

Now that 1 is not the option in the OA, nearest to it was 0, which I selected & went wrong :(

Bunuel, can you kindly explain

I opened the scientific calculator & square rooted 3 multiple times, which stuck at 1
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Now had 1 been in the OA, which would had been the answer?

(I agree that answer = 3, however the result 1 from calculator is contradicting)
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Find the value of a. Given a=√3(√3(√3(√3(√3…….inf.)))) [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2014, 19:29
Just take 4 occurrences of square root

a = \sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3}}}}

a = \sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3^1 * 3^{\frac{1}{2}}}}}

a = \sqrt{3\sqrt{3\sqrt{3^{\frac{3}{2}}}}}

a = \sqrt{3\sqrt{3 * 3^{\frac{3}{2} * \frac{1}{2}}}}

a = \sqrt{3\sqrt{3^1 * 3^{\frac{3}{4}}}}

a = \sqrt{3\sqrt{3^{\frac{7}{4}}}}

a = \sqrt{3 * 3^{\frac{7}{4} * \frac{1}{2}}}

a = \sqrt{3^{\frac{15}{8}}}

a = 3^{\frac{15}{8} * \frac{1}{2}}

a = 3^{\frac{15}{16}}

For n (Infinite) number of occurrences, the equation would be built up as follows

a = 3^{\frac{n}{n+1}}

We may deem here n\approx{n+1}

a = 3^1 = 3

Answer = C

What is find here is that, if you have a calculator in mind for value of \sqrt{3},then we tend to avoid the algebraic approach (shown above) & end up wrong
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