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For a certain race, 3 teams were allowed to enter 3 members each. A team earned 6 – n points whenever one of its members finished in nth place, where 1 ≤ n ≤ 5. There were no ties, disqualifications, or withdrawals. If no team earned more than 6 points, what is the least possible score a team could have earned?

A. 0
B. 1
C. 2
D. 3
E. 4
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For a certain race, 3 teams were allowed to enter 3 members each. A team earned 6 – n points whenever one of its members finished in nth place, where 1 ≤ n ≤ 5. There were no ties, disqualifications, or withdrawals. If no team earned more than 6 points, what is the least possible score a team could have earned?

A. 0
B. 1
C. 2
D. 3
E. 4

finishing place = 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.

possible points:
1st place = 6 - 1 = 5
2nd place = 6 - 2 = 4
3rd place = 6 - 3 = 3
4th place = 6 - 4 = 2
5th place = 6 - 5 = 1

so total points = 5+4+3+2+1 = 15
If we assign maximum scores to 2 teams, then the remaining scores is for the remaining team.
max scores first 2 teams can have = 6 (6+1) + 6 (4+2) = 12
so the remaining team must have = 3 scores

so got D.
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OK so total runners is 9..but only the first 5 actually get you any points...right

so lets say teams are T1, T2 and T3

T1 gets 1st spot so (6-1)=5, now we are told that no one scores over 6..so then assume that 2nd runner of T1 gets 6-5=1 point so in all T1 has 6 points..the 3rd runner was below 5th so he doesnt carry in points.anyway..

T2 gets 2nd spot so they 4 points from one of their runners, then their other runner gets 4th spot, and thus T2 also get 6 points..

T3 is left with only one runner who is at 3rd spot..so they get 3 points..

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For a certain race, 3 teams were allowed to enter 3 members each. A team earned 6 – n points whenever one of its members finished in nth place, where 1 ≤ n ≤ 5. There were no ties, disqualifications, or withdrawals. If no team earned more than 6 points, what is the least possible score a team could have earned?

A. 0
B. 1
C. 2
D. 3
E. 4
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should be 3 points.

the teams scored 6 - n points for each prize won.

this results in 5 points for first, 4 for second, etc.

The total number of points given for the race is 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1, or 15 points awarded to all 3 teams combined.

since no team was awarded more than 6, then to get the least possible score, assume two teams earned 6 points.

15 - 2 (6) = 3

there are only 3 more points to be awarded, so the least possible score for the losing team would be 3.
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if both teams earned 6 the last team would earn the least.

Since 6 is the limit, and the total points awarded is 15, then 6+6+3=15. if one scored 5, it would be 6+5+4, and the least score would be 4, and vice versa, so that if both teams score 6 you get the least possible score for the last team
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Consider a team member comes last gets last point, that will be 5 in our case, the team will earn 6-5 = 1 point,
Similarly the minimum possibility is that the team lasted in all the 3 events.
so 3* 1 = 3 points is the minimum.

If this answer is not in OA, then we need to substitite with different combinations.

Please post the OA!!

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each team has three members, so it could place 1st and 5th to get 6 points, or second and fourth.

Team 1: 1st and 5th - 5+1= 6 points
Team 2: 2nd and 4th - 4+2=6 points

Team 3: 3rd place - 3 points

the least possible score team 3 could have would be 3 points.
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I am struggling with this one, it may be that I don't understand the question and information given.

If there are 3 teams of 3 members each (9 people total), wouldn't the possible finishes for each member of the teams be 1st, 2nd, 3rd,..., 9th?

How is it that 1 <= n <= 5 when there are 9 racers? Do racers 6 through 9 just get 0 points?
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Scores are 5,4,3,2 and 1.
Giving maximum score to the first two teams so that the third team has the minimum.
5+1 = 6; 4+2= 6; 3
Hence 3.
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I am struggling with this one, it may be that I don't understand the question and information given.

If there are 3 teams of 3 members each (9 people total), wouldn't the possible finishes for each member of the teams be 1st, 2nd, 3rd,..., 9th?

How is it that 1 <= n <= 5 when there are 9 racers? Do racers 6 through 9 just get 0 points?

Try thinking of this as only the top 5 individuals from the teams can earn points for their teams, the rest of the 4 people who didn't place in the top 5 don't matter.
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I am struggling with this one, it may be that I don't understand the question and information given.

If there are 3 teams of 3 members each (9 people total), wouldn't the possible finishes for each member of the teams be 1st, 2nd, 3rd,..., 9th?

How is it that 1 <= n <= 5 when there are 9 racers? Do racers 6 through 9 just get 0 points?

Yes, a racer gets points only when he/she ranks 1 - 5.

Break down the question to get a handle on it:
For a certain race, 3 teams were allowed to enter 3 members each.
This means 9 racers.

A team earned 6-n points whenever one of its members finished in nth place, where 1<= n<=5, there were no ties, or withdraw.
Since n varies from 1 to 5, only when a member finishes in one of those positions, does he score something. That something is 6 - n. So person who finishes first, gets 5 points, person who finishes 2nd gets 4 points and so on till the person who finishes 5th gets 1 point. So in all, 5+4+3+2+1 = 15 points were given

If no team earned more than 6 points, what is the least possible score a team could have owned?
No team got more than 6 points. We have to find the minimum score of a team. Since the total is 15 and one score has to be minimized, we should try to maximize the other two scores. Maximum score is 6 so other two teams get 6 points each maximum (e.g. One team gets 5 + 1, another gets 4+2). Then the third team will get a minimum score of 15 - 2*6 = 3
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No, it's min/max problem. _________________ Manager Joined: 18 Oct 2011 Posts: 90 Location: United States Concentration: Entrepreneurship, Marketing GMAT Date: 01-30-2013 GPA: 3.3 Followers: 2 Kudos [?]: 52 [0], given: 0 Re: For a certain race, 3 teams were allowed to enter 3 members [#permalink] Show Tags 27 Jun 2013, 11:48 Since no team scored more than 6 points one team must have 1st, 2nd and 3rd place only otherwise the total will exceed 6. Fourth place will yeild 2 points which cannot go to the team which had a member that placed 1st. Since we are looking at minimizing points for a team, we would place 4th place with the team that also got 2nd place. Similarly, we would also allocate 5th place to the team that got 1st place. Therefore, 3 is the lowest point total possible for a team with this scenario. Answer: D Intern Joined: 21 Jul 2013 Posts: 1 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0 Re: For a certain race, 3 teams were allowed to enter 3 members [#permalink] Show Tags 21 Jul 2013, 15:34 This wording of this problem is still misleading because how can Team 1 and 2 both get 6 points total if it says there were no ties? Math Expert Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 33491 Followers: 5926 Kudos [?]: 73390 [0], given: 9902 Re: For a certain race, 3 teams were allowed to enter 3 members [#permalink] Show Tags 21 Jul 2013, 22:17 Expert's post shriyasp wrote: This wording of this problem is still misleading because how can Team 1 and 2 both get 6 points total if it says there were no ties? "No ties" means that there were no ties between members/runners not between teams. _________________ Intern Joined: 19 Nov 2012 Posts: 22 Followers: 1 Kudos [?]: 6 [0], given: 10 Re: For a certain race, 3 teams were allowed to enter 3 members [#permalink] Show Tags 21 Jul 2013, 23:25 1 This post was BOOKMARKED Hi Everyone My explanation - Since n is less than equal to 5 and if a player finishes at nth position the team will get 6-n points so the team will get minimum points if all of it's members finish at nth position earning 3(6-n) points As it is a min/max problem the score will be minimum when n=5 so 3(6-5)=3 Intern Status: MBA Aspirant Joined: 24 Aug 2012 Posts: 45 Location: India Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 19 [0], given: 20 Re: For a certain race, 3 teams were allowed to enter 3 members [#permalink] Show Tags 22 Apr 2014, 23:38 Minimum possible score which team can earn through each member is 1. There are 3 members in each team. So, minimum possible score for a team is 1+1+1=3. thats how i thought it to be. Experts please let me know if its correct. Veritas Prep GMAT Instructor Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 6666 Location: Pune, India Followers: 1827 Kudos [?]: 11094 [7] , given: 218 Re: For a certain race, 3 teams were allowed to enter 3 members [#permalink] Show Tags 23 Apr 2014, 05:36 7 This post received KUDOS Expert's post 3 This post was BOOKMARKED aniketb wrote: Minimum possible score which team can earn through each member is 1. There are 3 members in each team. So, minimum possible score for a team is 1+1+1=3. thats how i thought it to be. Experts please let me know if its correct. From what I understand from your explanation, I don't think your method is correct. Note that only one person will get a score of 1. There are 3 teams with 3 athletes each so there are a total of 9 athletes competing in the race. The first 5 positions, will be given points 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1. 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